AudreyGrace Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 [quote name='franciscanheart' timestamp='1299648516' post='2219434'] I knew which one you meant. Saint Francis didn't compose that prayer. [/quote] why must you do this to me? why must the world lie to me? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 [quote name='AudreyGrace' timestamp='1299650094' post='2219437'] why must you do this to me? why must the world lie to me? lol [/quote] Share the knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappie Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Being a Capuchin Franciscan Friar, I have a "devotion" to St Francis, although he would hate the very idea of devotion to him not to Jesus Christ. I see that he has achieved in an outstanding manner what the world with its wisdom, technology and the good will of millions of people look for but don’t obtain: happiness, freedom, peace, harmony and reconciliation among peoples and with nature itself. Francis obtained all this because his contemplative spirit allowed him to see the beauty of all creation, and his obedience gave him interior freedom: it freed him from himself. Francis was the herald of peace and universal brotherhood because he came to know Christ who is our peace and who broke down the walls of separation. The life of Francis was one of Gospel penance, of carrying his cross. It is there that he learned the overwhelming wisdom of Jesus Christ: in the school of the cross. We find this wisdom also in our Rule which says that the brothers should be concerned “with what they ought to long for above everything: to have to Spirit of the Lord and his holy working, to pray to him continually with a pure heart, to have humility and patience in persecution and sickness, and to love those who persecute, reprehend and accuse us…” (RB 10, 8-10). As Paul tells us our faith is not based on human wisdom but rather on the power of God, and this strength is the weakness and scandal of the cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 [quote name='cappie' timestamp='1299651587' post='2219442'] Being a Capuchin Franciscan Friar, I have a "devotion" to St Francis, although he would hate the very idea of devotion to him not to Jesus Christ. I see that he has achieved in an outstanding manner what the world with its wisdom, technology and the good will of millions of people look for but don’t obtain: happiness, freedom, peace, harmony and reconciliation among peoples and with nature itself. Francis obtained all this because his contemplative spirit allowed him to see the beauty of all creation, and his obedience gave him interior freedom: it freed him from himself. Francis was the herald of peace and universal brotherhood because he came to know Christ who is our peace and who broke down the walls of separation. The life of Francis was one of Gospel penance, of carrying his cross. It is there that he learned the overwhelming wisdom of Jesus Christ: in the school of the cross. We find this wisdom also in our Rule which says that the brothers should be concerned “with what they ought to long for above everything: to have to Spirit of the Lord and his holy working, to pray to him continually with a pure heart, to have humility and patience in persecution and sickness, and to love those who persecute, reprehend and accuse us…” (RB 10, 8-10). As Paul tells us our faith is not based on human wisdom but rather on the power of God, and this strength is the weakness and scandal of the cross. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_nine Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 I wanted to start a devotion to St. Francis but, like with most things, I don't know what the hell I'm doing. Soooooo . . . where do I start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vee Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 This Franciscan thread needs more Carmel [img]http://thecorner.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/09/24/item2548_teresa_icon.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vee Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 [img]http://anunslife.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Teresa_John.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vee Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/33/Virgen_del_Carmen.JPG/250px-Virgen_del_Carmen.JPG[/img] There, thats better for now..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamomile Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 [quote name='vee8' timestamp='1299769323' post='2219798'] [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/33/Virgen_del_Carmen.JPG/250px-Virgen_del_Carmen.JPG[/img] There, thats better for now..... [/quote] St. Francis would've loved that... I'm pretty sure he was a Carmelite at heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamomile Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 (edited) Note the similarities between St. Francis' Canticle the Sun and the Bendicite, which the Church prays every day in Lauds. [url="http://www.webster.edu/~barrettb/canticle.htm"]Canticle of the Sun[/url] [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedicite"]Benedicite[/url] I say he was a Carmelite at heart because his first emphasis was on prayer and meditating on the law of the Lord - this then turned into action for him. His action was prayer, too, as all our works should praise the Creator, even when we are not specifically speaking ("Preach the Gospel at all times; if necessary, use words"). St. Francis was very obedient to the Church. I think it was G. K. Chesterton that pointed out in his biography of St. Francis, that he could've probably just started a new religion, a new sect of Christianity if he had so desired. He had the charismatic nature to do it and a mass of followers to build it up. But he chose to remain loyal to the Church, which was having difficulties at that time. He believed in Truth and Unity (which is a reflection of the Blessed Trinity). St. Francis loved the liturgy and was very reverent during liturgical prayer. [url="http://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2011/02/st-francis-and-divine-office.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheNewLiturgicalMovement+%28The+New+Liturgical+Movement%29"]Here's a link to an article about that[/url]. [size=1]edited because I accidently clicked on post without being done yet [/size] Edited March 10, 2011 by Chamomile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamomile Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 By the way, I'm sure the prize you're offering is a.wesome, ds, but I really don't want anything! I'm just posting a lot because I really do love St. Francis and depend on him for much intercession and guidance - and want others to do the same. Like all Saints, he shows us the way to Jesus: [img]http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff508/philothea1983/FrancisDetailElGreco.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted March 14, 2011 Author Share Posted March 14, 2011 Okay, I'm praying now to decide who should get the prize....for those of you who said you didn't want it, I'll think about that...but if I pray about it and get the feeling you should have it, then you're gonna get it...hahahahahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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