emilier98 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 So one of my priest friends blogs and he posted [url="http://hancaquam.blogspot.com/2011/02/female-deacon-renounces-her-ordination.html"]this[/url] blog. Now the Church clearly states that women cannot be ordained and that is backed up by scripture and Tradition. However the topic never seems to fully go away and a few Sisters are still bring up the topic even though the Church closed conversation on it 10 years ago. So I wonder is there some part of teaching or doctrine or scripture that is not clear since female ordination keeps coming up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 (edited) [quote name='emilier98' timestamp='1299476434' post='2218748'] Now the Church clearly states that women cannot be ordained and that is backed up by scripture and Tradition. However the topic never seems to fully go away and a few Sisters are still bring up the topic even though the Church closed conversation on it [s]10[/s] 2000 years ago. [/quote] fxd Edited March 7, 2011 by USAirwaysIHS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlySunshine Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Thank God, finally, one of these women "priests"/"deacons" came to their senses! May God bless her with faith and fidelity to Holy Mother Church! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilier98 Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1299478409' post='2218756'] fxd [/quote] Please forgive my ignorance, but what is "fxd"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKolbe Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 fxd means fixed.. he changed your 10 years to 2000 years, meaning the ordination of women was decided then, not 10 years ago. (or that the conversation was closed 2000 years ago) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilier98 Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 [quote name='MIkolbe' timestamp='1299504947' post='2218796'] fxd means fixed.. he changed your 10 years to 2000 years, meaning the ordination of women was decided then, not 10 years ago. (or that the conversation was closed 2000 years ago) [/quote] Oh. The 10 years I was referring was 10 years ago the Pope closed the topic of women's ordination for discussion. At one point the topic had been opened up for conversation in the Church and 10 years ago it was closed and those sisters who continue to discuss it in open forums face censure at minimum. (Got a lovely lesson about this at school because a sister who teaches there brought it up at the Synod of Bishops on the Eucharist.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 [quote name='emilier98' timestamp='1299524297' post='2218865'] Oh. The 10 years I was referring was 10 years ago the Pope closed the topic of women's ordination for discussion. At one point the topic had been opened up for conversation in the Church and 10 years ago it was closed and those sisters who continue to discuss it in open forums face censure at minimum. (Got a lovely lesson about this at school because a sister who teaches there brought it up at the Synod of Bishops on the Eucharist.) [/quote] The issue was never truly open for discussion because the ordination of women is contrary to Tradition, and this cannot be changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Jesus broke every social taboo of his era. Had he wanted to ordain women, he would have. John Paul was just voicing a truth that a lot of people have trouble with. I hope that all the dissenters will eventually accept this truth too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamomile Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 [quote name='emilier98' timestamp='1299476434' post='2218748'] So I wonder is there some part of teaching or doctrine or scripture that is not clear since female ordination keeps coming up? [/quote] No. It's pretty clear. People just want to do what they want to do rather than what God says. This has been going on since the beginning of humanity, so it's just taking another form. I feel very sorry for these women and those who support them, as this is open heresy and I think it incurs an automatic excommunication (correct me if I'm wrong, please). It's a barrier in their relationship to God. Prayers for them, since when the teaching is that clear, something spiritual is blocking the reception of the Truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Normile Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 [quote name='Chamomile' timestamp='1299538563' post='2218954'] No. It's pretty clear. People just want to do what they want to do rather than what God says. This has been going on since the beginning of humanity, so it's just taking another form. I feel very sorry for these women and those who support them, as this is open heresy and I think it incurs an automatic excommunication (correct me if I'm wrong, please). It's a barrier in their relationship to God. Prayers for them, since when the teaching is that clear, something spiritual is blocking the reception of the Truth [/quote] I think its actual more like something demonic is blocking their reception of the truth. The deceiver approached Eve and tempted her with the fruit, despite being told by God himself that was not for them, she ate of the fruit and her eyes were opened, its the oldest story we have, being deceived into thinking what we feel is right supercedes the will of God. The deceiver uses his mastery of deception to ensnare the weak, whether it be the forbidden fruit, or some other form of forbidden fruit. ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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