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Nihil Obstat

[quote name='Papist' timestamp='1299687507' post='2219545']
Yep, but self-inflicted. It was inevitable when the Unions are ONLY looking out for what’s in the best interest of the employees regardless the cost to the employer. The bubble eventually will burst…and it did.
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It always does. The market can be distorted, but there will always be growing pressure to correct and move back to natural levels.

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[quote name='Papist' timestamp='1299687507' post='2219545']
Yep, but self-inflicted. It was inevitable when the Unions are ONLY looking out for what’s in the best interest of the employees regardless the cost to the employer. The bubble eventually will burst…and it did.
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...yes.

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[quote name='infinitelord1' timestamp='1299459973' post='2218664']
Get this asian croutons off my roads right now. If you don't I'm personally going to start running them off the road with my Chevy Cobalt.


DETROOOOOOOOIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

STOP BUYING ASIAN CARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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especially with [url="http://newsinabox.net/1306/mazda-recalls-over-65-000-cars.html"]Mazda having that spider problem[/url] and all that. :|

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[quote name='infinitelord1' timestamp='1299569171' post='2219097']
Our economy would be better if The Big Three took there places.
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actually, our economy would be better if people knew how to use [url="http://www.wikihow.com/Use-There,-Their-and-They're"]there/their/they're[/url].

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1299610353' post='2219244']
Right you are. :) The fact is that American car manufacturers are currently inferior to Asian car manufacturers, therefore, even in spite of American protectionist pressures, they are failing.
I say let them fail entirely. To continue to support them is a drain on resources. It is poor investment with capital that could be directed to far more productive areas.

Incidentally, that's why I also advocate defunding the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. :|
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you mean, :o not bail them out???

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[quote]Also do you realized that roughly 50% of toyotas are being manufactured here in the US? assemblers only - still good , as long as i don't have to scrub toilets (the lonely janitor)[/quote]


And what do you think the majority of jobs at GMC are?

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[quote name='jaime (the artist formerly known as hot stuff)' timestamp='1299690479' post='2219555']
And what do you think the majority of jobs at GMC are?
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cleaning up poo?

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Nihil Obstat

[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1299690239' post='2219554']
actually, our economy would be better if people knew how to use [url="http://www.wikihow.com/Use-There,-Their-and-They're"]there/their/they're[/url].


you mean, :o not bail them out???
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:like3:

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Vincent Vega

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/new-cars/buying-advice/best-worst-cars-review/overview/best-and-worst-ov.htm
CR's Best and Worst list:
[quote][b]Tops in our tests[/b]
Make & model Overall test score

Lexus LS 460L... 99
BMW 135i... 97
Porsche 911 Carrera S... 96
Mazda5 Grand Touring... 95
Infiniti G37 Journey. 95
Infiniti M37... 93
Nissan Altima 3.5 SR... 93
Chevrolet Corvette Z06... 92
Hyundai Genesis 3.8... 92
Nissan Altima 2.5 S... 91[/quote]
9 out of ten are non-American (7 of those Asian)...now let's look at the other half of the list...

[quote]
[b]The lowest scorers
[/b]
Make & model Overall test score

Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara... 17
Ford Ranger XLT... 25
Jeep Liberty Sport... 27
Smart ForTwo Passion... 28
Chevrolet Aveo5... 31
Dodge Nitro SLT... 33
Chevrolet Aveo LT... 36
Toyota FJ Cruiser... 36[/quote]

6/8 are American.

The facts speak for themselves.

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[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1299690693' post='2219556']
cleaning up poo?
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i did that this morning

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Vincent Vega

Another list:

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/new-cars/buying-advice/best-worst-cars-review/best-and-worst-values/best-and-worst-values.htm
Best and Worst [u]Values[/u]:

[b]Best[/b]
Honda Fit
Mini Cooper
Volkswagen Golf
Toyota Corolla LE
Toyota Prius IV
Hyundai Sonata GLS
Hyundai Elantra GLS
Toyota Camry LE
Toyota Camry Hybrid
Toyota RAV4
(A perfect 10/10 non-American)

[b]Worst[/b]
Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara
Cadillac Escalade
BMW 750Li
Jeep Liberty Sport
Dodge Nitro SLT
Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid
Ford Ranger XLT
Mercedes-Benz GL450
Mercedes-Benz S550
Jaguar XF
(7/10 American)

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[quote name='rachael' timestamp='1299693539' post='2219569']
i did that this morning
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lucky for me, i get to do it a lot.

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Vincent Vega

[quote name='infinitelord1' timestamp='1299656269' post='2219461']
Your comparing hybrids to normal cars. I think Honda makes a hybrid that gets equivalent of 70 mpg (electric) on the Highway. The Chevy Volt, in comparison, gets equivalent of 97 MPG on electric (Highway). Its the best Hybrid out right now. Plus its sharp.

37 MPG is not Highway milage. Its overall milage. I would be willing to bet it gets more like 44 MPG (Gas only) on the Highway.

Do the Research. Chevrolet gets the best fuel economy in the world right now. HMMMMM....perfect time to buy one since gas prices are nearing $4/gallon.
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I'll let the jury decide that:

CR Best City/Highway MPG
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/new-cars/buying-advice/best-worst-cars-review/best-city-highway-mpg/best-city-highway-mpg.htm

[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1299690693' post='2219556']
[quote name='jaime (the artist formerly known as hot stuff)' timestamp='1299690479' post='2219555']
And what do you think the majority of jobs at GMC are?
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cleaning up poo?
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No, producing it and shipping it out to dealerships.

[i][b]ZING[/b][/i]

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Nihil Obstat

[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1299693628' post='2219570']
Another list:

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/new-cars/buying-advice/best-worst-cars-review/best-and-worst-values/best-and-worst-values.htm
Best and Worst [u]Values[/u]:

[b]Best[/b]
Honda Fit
Mini Cooper
Volkswagen Golf
Toyota Corolla LE
Toyota Prius IV
Hyundai Sonata GLS
Hyundai Elantra GLS
Toyota Camry LE
Toyota Camry Hybrid
Toyota RAV4
(A perfect 10/10 non-American)

[b]Worst[/b]
Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara
Cadillac Escalade
BMW 750Li
Jeep Liberty Sport
Dodge Nitro SLT
Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid
Ford Ranger XLT
Mercedes-Benz GL450
Mercedes-Benz S550
Jaguar XF
(7/10 American)
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[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1299694008' post='2219572']
I'll let the jury decide that:

CR Best City/Highway MPG
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/new-cars/buying-advice/best-worst-cars-review/best-city-highway-mpg/best-city-highway-mpg.htm


No, producing it and shipping it out to dealerships.

[i][b]ZING[/b][/i]
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You and all your inconvenient statistics. :annoyed:

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[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1299693794' post='2219571']
lucky for me, i get to do it a lot.
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for union scale?

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[quote name='apparently' timestamp='1299696392' post='2219581']
for union scale?
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i wish.

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