maxk Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Thank you all for your help with the Eucharitic Adoration fallacy. I have got another question though, one that isn't necessarily needing debate: I have heard that Byzantine Catholics use leavened bread instead of unleavened like the Roman Rite. I'm guessing then that these will then more or less resemble little loaves (please correct me if I'm wrong.) With this in mind, and knowing that Byzantine priests are just as valid as Roman priests, I was wondering if Byzantine Catholics practice adoration in the same way as is typical to Roman Catholics. (for example, the monstrance we use is basically applicable to the type of host we use) Please help me out. God Bless, maxk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p0lar_bear Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 No, Eastern rite Catholics do not practice Eucharistic adoration. The Eucharist is reserved for the purpose of distribution to the sick, not adoration. Eucharistic adoration did not develop in the Western Church until the 10th or 11th century. That does not, however, mean that they do not understand the Eucharist as the Real Presence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.SIGGA Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 I went to an Eastern Orthodox Mass at the Cathedral, not Byzantine Catholic, for Easter Sunday and I asked the same question, and my uncle told me it wasn't practiced because all the Eucharist is totally consumed all the time. After Communion the priests ate more of the remaining Eucharist and allowed the faithful to partake again to finish all of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p0lar_bear Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 It seems to me that they would have some reserved for Viaticum...but you wouldn't need a lot unless you had a really large congregation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.SIGGA Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 [quote name='p0lar_bear' date='Apr 22 2004, 08:27 AM'] It seems to me that they would have some reserved for Viaticum...but you wouldn't need a lot unless you had a really large congregation... [/quote] it was the Midnight "Bring in the Light - Cristos Anesti" Easter Liturgy, so maybe it's different for other Mass times. I rarely go to the Greek Orthodox Church so I'm not totally sure, but it makes sense for them to reserve some for Viaticum, and it was an extremely large congregation - all the Ethiopians and Syrians and Palestinians met together with the Greeks at the Greek Cathedral and it was really spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hananiah Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 In the Byzantine Rite, the priest soaks the bread in the wine in the chalice, and then spoons it to the faithful mixed together. If someone were to leave the consecrated host in a tabernacle for adoration, it would quickly decay and become moldy. This is why the priest must consume it in its entirety after each liturgy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxk Posted April 23, 2004 Author Share Posted April 23, 2004 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.SIGGA Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 [quote name='Hananiah' date='Apr 23 2004, 08:56 AM'] In the Byzantine Rite, the priest soaks the bread in the wine in the chalice, and then spoons it to the faithful mixed together. If someone were to leave the consecrated host in a tabernacle for adoration, it would quickly decay and become moldy. This is why the priest must consume it in its entirety after each liturgy. [/quote] In the Greek Orthodox Church there was some bread not mixed with wine "left over" that was consumed by the faithful "again." There was a priest holding a vessel and the faithful were allowed to grab the bread with their own hands. Does this ever happen in the Byzantine Rite? Is this consecrated bread, or just plain bread? They also have to consume it right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hananiah Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 [quote name='M.SIGGA' date='Apr 23 2004, 09:05 AM'] In the Greek Orthodox Church there was some bread not mixed with wine "left over" that was consumed by the faithful "again." There was a priest holding a vessel and the faithful were allowed to grab the bread with their own hands. Does this ever happen in the Byzantine Rite? Is this consecrated bread, or just plain bread? They also have to consume it right away. [/quote] Um, on special occasions we have some regular bread that has been blessed for fellowship after liturgy. This is not consecrated. It looks different from the bread used as the host for the body of Christ. The host bread is in little cubes, and the regular bread is just cut in chunks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroX Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Hannaih, Thanks, I've never fully understood these practices. Thanks for an excellent explanation of these beautiful rites. peace... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.SIGGA Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 [quote name='Hananiah' date='Apr 23 2004, 09:43 AM'] Um, on special occasions we have some regular bread that has been blessed for fellowship after liturgy. This is not consecrated. It looks different from the bread used as the host for the body of Christ. The host bread is in little cubes, and the regular bread is just cut in chunks. [/quote] Thanks. I was so confused when this started happening. I was offered to partake in the blessed bread (it was in little cubes too) after Mass, but I didn't because it was an Orthodox Church and I thought it was the leftover Communion. In the future is it ok for a Catholic to eat the blessed bread at an Orthodox Church, or is it just like taking Communion from them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hananiah Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 (edited) I think that they'd let a Catholic eat blessed bread with them, but I'd ask first. I know the Byzantines let people eat blessed bread before they've even recieved Chrismation and first Communion. Edited April 23, 2004 by Hananiah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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