Semper Catholic Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 They're comparing the treatment of women in the Western World to the Muslim World [img] Girls laughing at them.jpeg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenciledOne Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 [quote name='Semper Catholic' timestamp='1297821862' post='2212800'] They're comparing the treatment of women in the Western World to the Muslim World [img]Girls%20laughing%20at%20them.jpeg[/img] [/quote] Oh apparently you didn't see the latest Sport's Illustrated Swimsuit article.....never seen a publication besides something pornographic , that puts women into something to just 'look' at or lust at. Given the physical atrocities that happen to women in the Muslim world, it should be taken into account the emotional and spiritual wounds we give women in the Western world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Normile Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 This is similiar to the story of the woman on the ferry that sunk off India, she showed the men who were floundering in the water how to remove then inflate your pantaloons to use as a floatation device. She was subsequently repeatedly gang raped by an estimated 20+ men for over an hour until the rescue boats came. The muslim men were not charged as her removing her pantaloons was seen as an enticement. This was at least 7 - 9 years back, but I remember the story as it was disgusting. ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 [quote name='Semper Catholic' timestamp='1297821862' post='2212800'] They're comparing the treatment of women in the Western World to the Muslim World [img]Girls%20laughing%20at%20them.jpeg[/img] [/quote] I'm comparing the slaughter of innocent human beings to the mistreatment of women in Koran-following countries. Americans are far more barbaric in that contest. Do you deny that? ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachael Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 it started with tunisia. and egypt now, we have morocco http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110220/wl_africa_afp/moroccopoliticsunrest and yemen http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110220/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_yemen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 In Bahrain some protestors were shot and killed by guards of the royal family. I actually saw a rather shocking video of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenDeMaria Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1298231793' post='2214160'] In Bahrain some protestors were shot and killed by guards of the royal family. I actually saw a rather shocking video of it. [/quote] I may be biased because I just finished reading the story of the martyrs of Compiegne not that long ago, but how is it possible that anyone alive on planet earth still thinks a revolution is a good idea? With a few rare exceptions (ie, the US) don't you always wind up with a Napoleon or a Stalin or worse once the dust settles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 (edited) [quote name='JenDeMaria' timestamp='1298238187' post='2214180'] I may be biased because I just finished reading the story of the martyrs of Compiegne not that long ago, but how is it possible that anyone alive on planet earth still thinks a revolution is a good idea? With a few rare exceptions (ie, the US) don't you always wind up with a Napoleon or a Stalin or worse once the dust settles? [/quote] Yes. Except for the somewhat bloodless revolutions. There have been a few, such as the Czech Republic, Poland, Hungary, Romania. Egypt, thankfully, seems to follow that pattern. A revolution of good ideas and lives lived well is what we need. ~Sternhauser Edited February 20, 2011 by Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 [quote name='JenDeMaria' timestamp='1298238187' post='2214180'] I may be biased because I just finished reading the story of the martyrs of Compiegne not that long ago, but how is it possible that anyone alive on planet earth still thinks a revolution is a good idea? With a few rare exceptions (ie, the US) don't you always wind up with a Napoleon or a Stalin or worse once the dust settles? [/quote] What if the alternative is worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenDeMaria Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1298240650' post='2214190'] What if the alternative is worse? [/quote] "Than Stalin?" she asks provocatively. No, no, you're right. I'm sure there are cases in which the status quo is much worse than a revolution. I simply have this horrible sense of foreboding that this new media revolution will end very badly for Egypt. I hope that I am wrong. :cassandra: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 [quote name='JenDeMaria' timestamp='1298243403' post='2214215'] "Than Stalin?" she asks provocatively. [/quote] I like this gal already. ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 [quote name='JenDeMaria' timestamp='1298243403' post='2214215'] "Than Stalin?" she asks provocatively. No, no, you're right. I'm sure there are cases in which the status quo is much worse than a revolution. I simply have this horrible sense of foreboding that this new media revolution will end very badly for Egypt. I hope that I am wrong. :cassandra: [/quote] It's going to end very badly, unless the Egyptian people have the wherewithal to absolutely refuse more of the same (like this 'temporary' military government). A real revolution should be a paradigm shift, the likes of which we very rarely see. I hope and pray they don't think they're finished yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1298244242' post='2214225'] It's going to end very badly, unless the Egyptian people have the wherewithal to absolutely refuse more of the same (like this 'temporary' military government). A real revolution should be a paradigm shift, the likes of which we very rarely see. I hope and pray they don't think they're finished yet. [/quote] As one of your great poets said, "Meet the new boss . . . the same as the old boss." ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1298244242' post='2214225'] It's going to end very badly, unless the Egyptian people have the wherewithal to absolutely refuse more of the same (like this 'temporary' military government). A real revolution should be a paradigm shift, the likes of which we very rarely see. I hope and pray they don't think they're finished yet. [/quote] What the Egyptians, the Libyans, the Tunisians, the Iranians, the Yemenis, the Bahrainis, the Kuwaitis and the Saudis need is to divest themselves of the current leadership, and its flunkies. No longer should they accept the false dichotomy between Islam and Western liberal democratic government. Contrary to what al-Qaeda's Deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, believes, democracy does not acquiesce to the "desires of the majority, without committing to any quality, value or creed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 [quote]What the Egyptians, the Libyans, the Tunisians, the Iranians, the Yemenis, the Bahrainis, the Kuwaitis and the Saudis need is to divest themselves of the current leadership, and its flunkies. No longer should they accept the false dichotomy between Islam and Western liberal democratic government. Contrary to what al-Qaeda's Deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, believes, democracy does not acquiesce to the "desires of the majority, without committing to any quality, value or creed." [/quote] So true. I think these days western democracy is worshipped as an idol. In that sense you could even say that the US has been leading a 'holy war' all these years to kill the infidels. I'm not going to buy it anymore. The last thing the world needs is another puppet government. [img]http://www.shadownews.org/archives/Hamid%20Karzai%20and%20George%20Bush.JPG[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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