Nihil Obstat Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' timestamp='1296683113' post='2207908'] There have been some pretty good liturgy threads in Transmundane over the years. Good because they were respectful enough to not draw negative attention to themselves. It is a fine line when it comes to certain topics perhaps, but the rule, historically speaking, hasn't negated teh possibility of sweet theological convos, as you no doubt know. Unless the rule is being changed to be super strict. Just saying that in the past there were some rockin' threads that never degenerated into the kind of Catholic vs Catholic debate that might scandalize and/or disedify. [/quote] Fo' sho', bro! I guess though, that PM isn't really for those topics after all. Like I said, that's fine. If PM wants to evangelize and target youths, then we'll beaver dam well do that, and we'll do it well. With that in mind, it's all cool if we want to have certain ideas/goals/initiatives that are not within the scope of Phatmass but occur elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1296683293' post='2207915'] Fo' sho', bro! I guess though, that PM isn't really for those topics after all. Like I said, that's fine. If PM wants to evangelize and target youths, then we'll beaver dam well do that, and we'll do it well. With that in mind, it's all cool if we want to have certain ideas/goals/initiatives that are not within the scope of Phatmass but occur elsewhere. [/quote] I refuse to speculate. Harrison Ford is a pilot and has saved people in his helicopter in RL. True story bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' timestamp='1296683113' post='2207908'] There have been some pretty good liturgy threads in Transmundane over the years. Good because they were respectful enough to not draw negative attention to themselves. It is a fine line when it comes to certain topics perhaps, but the rule, historically speaking, hasn't negated teh possibility of sweet theological convos, as you no doubt know. Unless the rule is being changed to be super strict. Just saying that in the past there were some rockin' threads that never degenerated into the kind of Catholic vs Catholic debate that might scandalize and/or disedify. [/quote] Exactly. The rules on this site are strict in their wording, but [b]usually[/b] enforced very leniently. Liturgical debates that remain positive and charitable (notice how the rule specifically says "negative" criticism) do not get edited. Believe it or not, I actually encourage very light moderating. Unfortunately, sometimes things get out of hand. Sometimes you get members who's sole purpose of being here is to troll. Sometimes, after multiple warnings, some members continue to push the boundaries. It is reasonable to assume that the rules are applied more strictly to those types of situations. A driver doesn't lose their license after one speeding violation. The same rules don't, and shouldn't apply to a driver who has multiple speeding violations over and over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 [quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1296683816' post='2207921'] Believe it or not, I actually encourage very light moderating. [/quote] It's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Different strokes for different folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah147 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 It seems that if they need to challenge Church teachings/Pope/Magisterium, they ought to talk to the Priests, Scholars, Professors, etc. on [url="http://www.ewtn.com/vexperts/conference.htm"]http://www.ewtn.com/vexperts/conference.htm[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 [quote name='JoyfulLife' timestamp='1296685278' post='2207934'] It seems that if they need to challenge Church teachings/Pope/Magisterium, they ought to talk to the Priests, Scholars, Professors, etc. on [url="http://www.ewtn.com/vexperts/conference.htm"]http://www.ewtn.com/vexperts/conference.htm[/url] [/quote] Talking to lots of experts is always good. A faithful Catholic will never challenge what is [i]properly understood[/i] as the Magisterium, or infallible doctrines or dogmas (obviously), but with a faithfully informed opinion there is certainly room for legitimate debate within Church discipline, interpretations of documents, etc.. For instance, Communion in the Hand is a discipline currently allowed within the Latin Rite, and my faithfully informed opinion allows me to legitimately dispute the prudence of this indult, and I do so as a Catholic in full and entirely unhindered communion with the pope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1296682815' post='2207900'] If the context of this site is evangelization and formation of youth, then so be it. I joined for the chance to discuss intricate theological points in depth for the purpose of continuing (and I might say, rather advanced) formation of my faith. I guess I picked the wrong site for that in hindsight. No harm no foul, right? Your mission is yours to define. I certainly don't expect everybody to have the same mission. I also see other distinct missions as being complementary rather than detrimental, and I think other perspectives should be celebrated and encouraged. If you should prefer, for instance, that these other distinct 'missions' take place apart from your website, then amesome. I would encourage that too, if it were me in your position. Kinda like with a corporation, if it gets rather large, it might decide to get back to basics. It might take certain departments which it would prefer to outsource and separate those from the company itself. Those departments may well continue to exist, doing more or less what they meant to do before, and maybe consulting/providing service to/generally work with the 'parent' company, thought they now exist as separate and distinct corporations. Anyway, amesome stuff. Makes me teh happiez now that I understand the Phatmass mission with greater clarity. Should help to avoid misunderstandings that may come up someday. ETA smilies. [/quote] [quote] [i]With orthodoxy, charity and humility, phatmass will infiltrate the entire planet earth with Catholic propaganda via innovative multimedia. [/i] [b] [/b] [/quote] This may sound snarky but this thing has been up describing the Phatmass mission since before I started posting here. I'm not sure how you (and others) may have missed it. Maybe dUSt needs to make it more prominent but its always been there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosey Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I've never seen it. Where is it kept? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosey Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Moosey' timestamp='1296697009' post='2208026'] I've never seen it. Where is it kept? [/quote] Oh, nvm. I found it. It's on the homepage. I always went directly to the phorum. edit: I don't think it's very prominent. I had to look for it. Edited February 3, 2011 by Moosey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Really? I remember when Dust had us help him compose/reword the mission statement here on the phorum (it's always been the same mission, I think he just wanted it more concise... I forget exactly, it was years ago... I just remember it happened) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosey Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 (edited) Hm, I don't remember that. *shrugs* All I'm saying is, some people might not see it. Especially new people. Nihil hasn't been around as long as you or me, Icey. Edited February 3, 2011 by Moosey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Yeah, I give leeway to newbies on possibly not being aware of the mission statement or guidelines (which is why on first edits I always refer people to the guidelines and provide quotes and links to make sure they are up to speed). I'm just surprised someone who has been around as long as you have was unaware of it. I've known almost since the day I joined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosey Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Im a fraf. That's probably why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosey Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I wouldn't say that that mission statement alone puts across the rule that there should be no in depth theological discussions very clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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