ExCorde Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1297884360' post='2213025'] Whenever we discuss the Trinity, I think that the very best place to start is the Athanasian Creed. [/quote] For sure, that's hot sauce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExCorde Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 Sooo, getting kinda back on the topic at hand, we can't do without this quote from Blessed John Henry Newman's [url="http://www.newmanreader.org/works/development/chapter1.html"][b]An Essay on the Development of Doctrine - S[/b][b]ection 1, points 6 through 7 (On the Process of Development in Ideas).[/b][/url] [quote] (...)[size="3"] [A]n idea not only modifies, but is modified, or at least influenced, by the state of things in which it is carried out, and is [b]dependent in various ways on the circumstances which surround it[/b]. Its development proceeds quickly or slowly, as it may be; the order of succession in its separate stages is variable; it shows differently in a small sphere of action and in an extended; it may be interrupted, retarded, mutilated, distorted, by external violence; it maybe enfeebled by the effort of ridding itself of domestic foes; it may be impeded and swayed or even absorbed by counter energetic ideas; it may be coloured by the received tone of thought into which it comes, or depraved by the intrusion of foreign principles, or at length shattered by the development of some original fault within it. But whatever be the risk of corruption from intercourse with the world around, such a risk must be encountered if a great idea is duly to be understood, and much more if it is to be fully exhibited. It is elicited and expanded by trial, and battles into perfection and supremacy. Nor does it escape the collision of opinion even in its earlier years, nor does it remain truer to itself, and with a better claim to be considered one and the same, though externally protected from vicissitude and change. It is indeed sometimes said that the stream is clearest near the spring. Whatever use may fairly be made of this image, it does not apply to the history of a philosophy or belief, which on the contrary is more equable, and purer, and stronger, when its bed has become deep, and broad, and full. It necessarily rises out of an existing state of things, and for a time savours of the soil. Its vital element needs disengaging from what is foreign and temporary, and is employed in efforts after freedom which become wore vigorous and hopeful as its years increase. Its beginnings are no measure of its capabilities, nor of its scope. At first no one knows what it is, or what it is worth. It remains perhaps for a time quiescent; it tries, as it were, its limbs, and proves the ground under it, and feels its way. From time to time it makes essays which fail, and are in consequence abandoned. It seems in suspense which way to go; it wavers, and at length strikes out in one definite direction. In time it enters upon strange territory; points of controversy alter their bearing; parties rise and around it; dangers and hopes appear in new relations; and old principles reappear under new forms. It changes with them in order to remain the same. In a higher world it is otherwise, but here below [b]to live is to change, and to be perfect is to have changed often[/b].[/size][/quote] Genius. Saint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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