Key Points To Share With Someone When Trying To Show Them The Catholic

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[Guest]

Title is supposed to read : Key points to share with someone when trying to show them the Catholic Church is the church Jesus Christ founded.

[Papist]

[size="3"]Here's a start.

Catholic Church (moved to Rome by Peter after he fled Jerusalem) was founded by Jesus Christ. He said: "Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build My Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it... Feed my lambs; feed My sheep" (Matt. 16:18,19; John 21:15,17). He also said: "He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who gathers not with me scatters" (Matt.12:30). [/size]

[Guest]

[quote name='Papist' timestamp='1296276088' post='2206244']
[size="3"]Here's a start.

Catholic Church (moved to Rome by Peter after he fled Jerusalem) was founded by Jesus Christ. He said: "Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build My Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it... Feed my lambs; feed My sheep" (Matt. 16:18,19; John 21:15,17). He also said: "He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who gathers not with me scatters" (Matt.12:30). [/size]
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Nice.

[tinytherese]

The Bible Cheat Sheet http://thecatholicconvert.webs.com/biblecheatsheet.html

I recommend "A Scriptural Catechism" by Fr. Herbert Burke

"Unabridged Christianity" by Fr. Mario Romero

"I'm Not Being Fed: Discovering the Food that Satisfies the Soul" by Jeff Cavins (I really like this book because it is written by a man who was Catholic, became a Protestant minister, and then reverted to the Catholic Church and talks about how the Eucharist is basically why he came back. He talks about why he sees it as the Church that Christ really founded. The title is based on the reason that many people leave the Church. Ironically, they missed out on the satisfying food of the Eucharist.)

[cmotherofpirl]

history?
If you are a member of the Jewish faith, your religion was founded by Abraham about 4,000 years ago.
If you are a Hindu, your religion was developed in India around 1,500 B.C.

If you are a Buddhist, your religion split from Hinduism, and was founded by Buddha, Prince Siddhartha Gautama of India, about 500 B.C.

If you are Catholic, Jesus Christ began your religion in the year 33.

If you are Islamic, Mohammed started your religion in what is now Saudi Arabia around 600 A.D.

If you are Eastern Orthodox, your sect separated from Catholicism around the year 1000.

If you are a Lutheran, your religion was founded my Martin Luther, an ex-Monk of the Catholic Church, in 1517.

If you belong to the Church of England (Anglican), your religion was founded by King Henry VIII in the year 1534 because the pope would not grant him a divorce with the right to remarry.

If you are a Presbyterian, your religion was founded when John Knox brought the teachings of John Calvin to Scotland in the year 1560.

If you are a Unitarian, your religious group developed in Europe in the 1500's

If you are a Congregationalist, your religion branched off from Puritanism in the early 1600's in England.

If you are a Baptist, you owe the tenets of your religion to John Smyth, who launched it in Amsterdam in 1607.

If you are a Methodist, your religion was founded by John and Charles Wesley in England in 1744.

If you are an Episcopalian, your religion was brought over from England, to the American colonies and formed a separate religion founded by Samuel Seabury in 1789.

If you are a Mormon (Latter-Day Saints), Joseph Smith started your church in Palmyra, N.Y., NOT Salt Lake City, which would have been my guess. The year was 1830.

If you worship with the Salvation Army (yes, it's a religious group, not just an organization that collects money in kettles on Christmas and serves dinners to the homeless), your sect began with William Booth in London in 1865.

If you are a Christian Scientist, you look to 1879 as the year your religion was founded by Mary Baker Eddy.

If you are a Jehovah's Witness, your religion was founded by Charles Taze Russell in Pennsylvania in the 1870's.

If you are a Pentecostal, your religion was started in the United States in 1901.

[Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam]

I always find bringing someone to a nice solemn, reverent Mass and sharing adoration with non-Catholics goes a long way. Bringing someone with you to experience the heart of the faith and living it with them is always a good idea. Most people aren't opposed to God or to Catholicism because they are convinced by some elaborate argument. Most people are opposed because of some wound or other problem that isn't intellectual. Those kinds of things can only be healed by love, a love that is witnessed to in the Mass and in adoration.

Edited January 30, 2011 by Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam

[Guest]

Than you guys ! Godd stuff !

[AudreyGrace]

cmotherofpirl did something great- nobody can deny historical facts like those.
I find that being genuinely passionate about your faith can make others curious of why you're so passionate and more eager to give Catholicism a try. That's how God worked in my life to convert my best friend This includes setting a good example for the Church (aka not saying a slew of curse words after talking about Mass last weekend.)

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cmotherofpirl did something great- nobody can deny historical facts like those.
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I agree.

[Tally Marx]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' timestamp='1296367331' post='2206620']
history?
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Nice list!

Of course, there's the problem of the Catholic Church having been begun by Constantine,
and the early Christians not really being Catholics and this all just being a lie spread around by Catholics to make their church look good.
The real Christians went underground, until they re-surfaced during the Protestant Rebellion.
*sarcasm font* I thought everyone knew that!

A list leads to very [i]long[/i] arguments, unfortunately.
But.... it's a great list!! I saw one similar on the back of a shirt once. I want that shirt.....

[Ed Normile]

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Title is supposed to read : Key points to share with someone when trying to show them the Catholic Church is the church Jesus Christ founded.
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You need a prop, get two large keys, preferrably gold in color and say these are the keys to the kingdom given By Jesus to his Rock, Peter. Then start beating them over the head with the keys until they agree with you.

ed

[Groo the Wanderer]

John 6


nuff said

[ExCorde]

In addition to the fine apologetic resources already posted, you may also find a use for mentioning these 10 verses that Bible readers often don't notice:

[url="http://www.chnetwork.org/articles/10verses_art.html"]Verses I Never Saw[/url]

I also think it's important for you to deepen their walk with Christ and envolvement with their current community.

It's very easy for someone who simply "hears" about things - and doesn't seek their own reasons - to justify anything they were told because they really don't look to you as having the authority. Only when they sense God calling for them will they see anything you show them, so be cooperative to wherever they are in life.

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' timestamp='1296367331' post='2206620']
history?
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That's a great list as far as showing the Church as originally established by Jesus! However, there should be concerns about calling the Eastern Orthodox a "sect".

Tally is quite right about what people think of Constantine and the early Church. I mean, they have to have their own alternative version of history, because otherwise they'd all be Catholic by now.


[quote name='Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam' timestamp='1296372432' post='2206631']
Most people aren't opposed to God or to Catholicism because they are convinced by some elaborate argument. Most people are opposed because of some wound or other problem that isn't intellectual.
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This is always essential. Only the undeniable authenticity of love dissipates doubts and suspicions. We can never know everything, therefore something important must guide us and there's nothing more important than love. We can love them as they fight us, and as we show them the love and truth of saintly Catholics and share with them the mysteries of the faith.

I do think that even though they aren't elaborate, prejudices undermining the significance of the Church may put it all into question to a point where a person can be horrified with even a solemn Mass or Adoration. Usually those people stop talking to you (or don't let you talk to them) before we get to invite them to anything, though...

Edited February 5, 2011 by ExCorde

[thessalonian]

1) One can go east, west, north, south, on every continent and island in the world, enter a Catholic Church and find himself right at home in a Catholic mass because the Mass is the same everywhere!!! It crosses the boundaries of language and culture. One can even look back in time and find this to be true. I can go to australia as a Catholic, walk in to a Catholic Church and know exactly what I am getting. A baptist can't do that.

2) The Papacy can be traced back and is by secular sources all the way to Christ. It has survived 2000 years many times despite itself and the people who were in the chair. No other institution can claim this longevity in structure and leadership.

Edited February 5, 2011 by thessalonian