ExCorde Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 First of all, hooray for chastity! I'm a 28 year-old virgin man who never really had a problem with getting the interest of the women I really liked. I did date, I did many mistakes, somehow through it all I always believed in real love and the point of me saying this is because the testimony of freely choosing chastity is important. It sounds unbelievable to our culture. And I used to think that too, since although virgin I wasn't pure for the longest time. To those who still struggle with pornography, I know there must be someone out there needing to read this: JUST LEAVE IT! Trust me, you can live much better without it. You need to unhook your mind from the arousal and that's done by deciding you're worth a lot better than that. Realizing how pornography made me look at the real women I could be interested in ashamed me. There's really nothing true or amazing in it, you're just buying into an extremely indecent industry made of people with ugly, exploitative hearts. And it will darken yours beyond recognition. You are not in control. So take control, cry out to God and let it go. Your body will be able to take it at any point, so you better convince yourself you need to start running out of reasons not to stay pure ASAP. Dump it all! [quote name='southern california guy' timestamp='1296618867' post='2207657'] "...the female sperm that swims slower but lives longer..." [/quote] At first I thought you meant to say female mucus but then you said SWIM! xD I wouldn't bet much on that theory if I were you! [quote name='JenDeMaria' timestamp='1296527073' post='2207275'] Actually, if I could clarify something that might make the contested point easier to understand -- the word "sex" means "gender" (...) Through misuse of the term, "sex" evolved to indicate "coitus" sometime in the 1950s. In the 90s the term was deliberately stretched to include homosexual acts comparable to intercourse specifically to make it possible to compare "gay sex" with "straight sex". This wordplay should concern Catholics simply because it places homosexuality (and, really, any number of sins of the flesh) on a par with normative sexual intercourse. It makes it possible for a person to say "Well, that's the kind of sex you prefer... but not the kind I prefer" etc.[/quote] This is actually a great post!! Really good insight. It goes to show you that what you assume isn't worthy of much discussion may just be the opportunity to learn something new you would never bother considering on your own... Case in point: in Portugal they want to change our Constitution to replace "race" with "ethnicity" and "sex" with "gender". Some of their advocates have actually mentioned all sorts of genders: homosexual male, homosexual female, bisexual and transgender would all apply. And you've have checkboxes in all legal forms with all those options, instead of just Male/Female. The American Psychological Association has had "Transgender" as an option for a while, but you can see how changing a single word may change the whole definition and allow for anything. Although this does leaves me with a question: what did people use coloquially instead of "to have sex" before that became common? I can't really think of an alternative other than "to make love". [note to self: read more old books] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 [quote name='Archaeology cat' timestamp='1296717348' post='2208116'] Thank you. That being the case, I don't see how any medical treatment can help, but of course I'm no expert. I've just heard that it's too late to do anything about the sperm after intercourse, even immediately afterwards, and any hormonal treatment would also thin the endometrium. But it's entirely possible that there's a treatment of which I'm not aware. [/quote] I don't think it is exactly medical treatment at that point, but more treatment for the soul. Kind of like getting anti-biotics for the flu. It doesn't really do anything to help with the flu, but makes you feel like you are doing something. [spoiler]I have a very distinctive feeling after marital intimacy of having my husband's life force inside me. If I were to be raped, I'd want a spermicide to know that my attacker's life was no longer living inside me.[/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithLuin Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 (edited) [quote name='ExCorde' timestamp='1296723811' post='2208129'] [quote='southerncaliforniaguy']"...the female sperm that swims slower but lives longer..."[/quote] At first I thought you meant to say female mucus but then you said SWIM! xD I wouldn't bet much on that theory if I were you! [/quote] What SCG was referring to was that some of the sperm are 'Y' and some are 'X'...when united with the egg (which is always X) they will determine whether the baby is male or female. Thus, a sperm carrying a Y is a 'male sperm' while a sperm carrying an X is a 'female sperm'. Sounds strange, I know! The theory is that sperm will behave differently based on whether they be X or Y. I am not aware of any differentiation there, to be honest. Though it [i]is[/i] true that more frequent sexual intercourse will decrease sperm count and thus potentially decrease the chances of conception. But that's a conversation for the age-protected board, not this one. [quote] Although this does leaves me with a question: what did people use coloquially instead of "to have sex" before that became common? I can't really think of an alternative other than "to make love". [note to self: read more old books] [/quote] I think 'make love' and the f-word have both been around for quite sometime. And of course there is the biblical 'know'. Edited February 3, 2011 by MithLuin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 [quote name='MithLuin' timestamp='1296770438' post='2208319'] The theory is that sperm will behave differently based on whether they be X or Y. I am not aware of any differentiation there, to be honest. [/quote] There is a great difference between the two. An "X" sperm stops at Nordstroms on the way to the egg. ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeology cat Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 [quote name='CatherineM' timestamp='1296765317' post='2208284'] I don't think it is exactly medical treatment at that point, but more treatment for the soul. Kind of like getting anti-biotics for the flu. It doesn't really do anything to help with the flu, but makes you feel like you are doing something. [spoiler]I have a very distinctive feeling after marital intimacy of having my husband's life force inside me. If I were to be raped, I'd want a spermicide to know that my attacker's life was no longer living inside me.[/spoiler] [/quote] Thanks. And I understand you exactly with what you said, as I feel similarly. I think I get it now - thank you! [quote name='MithLuin' timestamp='1296770438' post='2208319'] What SCG was referring to was that some of the sperm are 'Y' and some are 'X'...when united with the egg (which is always X) they will determine whether the baby is male or female. Thus, a sperm carrying a Y is a 'male sperm' while a sperm carrying an X is a 'female sperm'. Sounds strange, I know! The theory is that sperm will behave differently based on whether they be X or Y. I am not aware of any differentiation there, to be honest. Though it [i]is[/i] true that more frequent sexual intercourse will decrease sperm count and thus potentially decrease the chances of conception. But that's a conversation for the age-protected board, not this one. [/quote] I thought it wasn't so much that the different sperm were thought to behave differently, per se, but that, since the X-chromosome is larger, it was thought the larger size would slow down the X-sperm, but would also make them live longer because of more material. I don't know that there's any evidence for that, but that was the theory I'd heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExCorde Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 [quote name='MithLuin' timestamp='1296770438' post='2208319'] What SCG was referring to was that some of the sperm are 'Y' and some are 'X'... [/quote] Oh that, gotcha. Ok I remembered where I could read up on this, here's what I got: The most important thing is the fluidity of the mucus. In the beginning it's thick and won't allow the sperm to progress much, which changes entirely at ovulation. The X sperm is slower and lives longer, while the Y sperm is faster but dies sooner. So, if the mucus is thick when the sperm is deposited, chances are it's a girl (because it needs to wait a few days till it can progress, and most Ys don't resist waiting that long). If the mucus is fluid (as close to ovulation as possible), the faster ones will reach the egg sooner thus resulting in a boy. Basically there's a 20% chance that you'll get a boy during the first fertile days and an 80% chance closer to ovulation. And yeah maybe this whole thread should be moved to the adult area, I mean, just look at the title... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) 4 years. Prayers I can be pure and chaste with other sexual sins. Actually just one. Lust. Edited January 31, 2012 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark of the Cross Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 [quote name='Delivery Boy' timestamp='1328029809' post='2378327'] 4 years. Prayers I can be pure and chaste with other sexual sins. Actually just one. Lust. [/quote] It is good that you are addressing your defects. If God wanted us to be angels he would have made us angelic. God chose the burdens and weaknesses of each of us so that we may learn to deal with them and thus mould the ethos of the person. Challenge your weaknesses, but don't be too overtly critical of yourself. We all have them and we cannot defeat them, so God sent his only son to save us! And thus remember, [i]'Never let me feel that any sin of mine is greater than your love for me, I can always start anew!'[/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Thank you for resurrecting the most amazingly titled thread in phatmass history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4588686 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 This title seems to imply that abstinence is a sign of homosexuality. Anybody who knows a lot of gay men knows this is false. You not having sex in three years is much more likely to imply heterosexuality rather than homosexuality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissyP89 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 [quote name='Delivery Boy' timestamp='1328029809' post='2378327'] 4 years. Prayers I can be pure and chaste with other sexual sins.[/quote] Sweet. I believe in you. [quote]Actually just one. Lust. [/quote] Me, too, dude. Prayers for prayers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 [quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1328047126' post='2378492'] You not having sex in three years is much more likely to imply heterosexuality rather than homosexuality. [/quote] Are you implying that homosexuals have less morals than heterosexuals? That's racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totus Tuus Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 [quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1328048407' post='2378514'] Are you implying that homosexuals have less morals than heterosexuals? That's racist. [/quote] Except that homosexual is not a race OK I don't know if that was supposed to be funny but I blame any lack of reason on pregnancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarysLittleFlower Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) good for you! devotion to Mary is great for chastity. Christopher West was mentioned, - I would recommend this article to anyone interested in Theology of the Body and chastity.. [url="http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/document.php?n=999"]http://www.catholicn...ument.php?n=999[/url] It seems that maybe Dietrich von Hildebrand's view of this is more accurate than West's, and helps to understand Theology of the Body, chastity, and modesty. Edited January 31, 2012 by MarysLittleFlower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven77 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I just got three letters for this thread: T, M, I. No but seriously, Jason Evert's website is pretty a[i]w[/i]esome… not sure if anyone mentioned it earlier. There are some inspiring prayers and quotes from saints on that site. Also, insofar as it is primarily a struggle of the heart and mind, devotion to Our Lady is essential in the struggle for purity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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