AudreyGrace Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 [quote name='ipwnuathalo' timestamp='1295643624' post='2202635'] incorrectly but widely attributed to This is every atheist's favorite Christian saying. That alone should be enough to make us wary of repeating it. [/quote] Unfortunate that it's falsely attributed to him... how do you know? I don't know why it would be an atheist's favorite saying... they don't believe in the Gospel's relevance at all. Nevertheless, just because an atheist likes it, I'm not going to let them have the glory of "owning" the quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) Playing off of this quote above: "A man that would expect to train lobsters to fly in a year is called a lunatic; but a man that thinks men can be turned into angels by an election is a reformer & remains at large." I'll submit the following. Everyone's heard the Acton quote, "Power corrupts: absolutely power corrupts absolutely." But the quote in its context is priceless. "I cannot accept your canon that we are to judge Pope and King unlike other men, with a favorable presumption that they did not wrong. If there is any presumption it is the other way against holders of power, increasing as the power increases. Historic responsibility has to make up for the want of legal responsibility. All power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority: still more when you superadd the tendency or the certainty of corruption by authority. There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it." By "authority," Acton means "position of power," or the other fitting word he used, "influence." ~Sternhauser Edited January 21, 2011 by Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='ipwnuathalo' timestamp='1295655182' post='2202734'] Anti-Catholic quote by an anti-Catholic guy. Don't worry, I don't expect people these days to understand that the nations were established by God and post-nationalism is not Catholic. But it isn't. [/quote] Catholics know there is a difference between States and nations. Some Catholics think that God established the States of Israel and Kuwait Himself. Not merely by His conditional will, but by His direct will. I'm not worried. ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='ipwnuathalo' timestamp='1295655936' post='2202743'] And in your infinite wisdom, you are quite certain that the anti-Catholic Wells was objecting to the non-Catholic concept, rather than the Catholic one? Hey, tell you what, I was wrong about the whole thing, I'm suddenly a big fan of the UN.[/quote] I don't have infinite wisdom. And whatever Wells was getting at doesn't really get under my skin, because I'm able to dross out impurities from truths, using the light of Catholic faith. You squeeze the lemon too hard, and you'll end up squeezing the rind into your lemonade. And that will make you bitter. [quote]Do you guys always shoot from the hip like this? Posting: Effort=results.[/quote] Always. As Catholics, we are firm believers in the Fairbairn method. ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='ipwnuathalo' timestamp='1295656693' post='2202755'] I had to google that. Excellent. I prefer a good rifle and steady rest, meself, but any army needs short and long range weapons. [/quote] The Fairbairn method is not intended for use in situations in which a rifle and a steady rest are either practical or necessary. ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tally Marx Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) [quote name='ipwnuathalo' timestamp='1295654948' post='2202733'] *I* don't know anything. His biographers do, and since it appears in none of the earliest biogrpahies of Francis and only appears later, it is apparently apocryphal. Also, it's completely out of character for him, a truly great and prolific preacher...which is the funny part. [/quote] I don't know whether or not it appears in early biographies, never having paid much attention to the origin of the quotes (and having found that many different biographies say many different things). But I would say that the statement does not seem "out of character" for Saint Francis. Yes, he preached, but you are talking about Saint Francis here--who didn't want his Friars Minors to strive for education, wouldn't allow them to own books, and who himself didn't want to become a priest because it was too high a station. He stressed caring for the poor and sick just as much as he did preaching. That said, I know this is Open Mic, and one doesn't have to be strict about sticking to the original topic, but I[i] would [/i]hate for the next three or four pages to be a discussion of debating methods and attack tactics between ipmnuathalo and Stern... "Love talked about can be easily turned aside, but love demonstrated is irresistible." ~Epicurus "A child, even an unborn child, cannot be denied personality in its most objective ontological sense, although it is true that it has yet to acquire, step by step, many of the traits which will make it psychologically and ethically a distinct personality." ~Karol Wojtyla "[i]Love and Responsibility[/i]" "Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." ~Pope John Paul II "I don't think it would be possible for me to find nourishment for vanity and pride in anything I do... any more than an organ grinder is conceited about the beautiful music he produces when he turns the crank... I feel ashamed when people praise me... as a piano would be put to shame if someone congratulated it on the beautiful music that proceeds from its keys." ~William Doyle, SJ Edited January 22, 2011 by Tally Marx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tally Marx Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='BG45' timestamp='1295575381' post='2202417'] (Yes I do keep a Word document of inspiring quotes for myself to read when I need reminded of who I am as a Catholic and who I am called to be as a child of God.) [/quote] Nice! I keep a special journal for all the quotes I find! I hope you do not mind that I have stolen some from you...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vee Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 [list] "keep in mind" has NEVER been a Memorial Acclamation!!!!!!!!! -dominicansoul [/list] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudreyGrace Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 ipwnuathalo, you are the most pleasant person I have ever conversed with on PM. You're right.... you probably can "pwn" me at halo. I don't like games that promote violence. Either does Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='ipwnuathalo' timestamp='1295655182' post='2202734'] Anti-Catholic quote by an anti-Catholic guy. Don't worry, I don't expect people these days to understand that the nations were established by God and post-nationalism is not Catholic. But it isn't. [/quote] Okay. If you choose to see it as anti-Catholic you're free too, like Stern it really doesn't get under my skin as a quote when it can be filtered through the truth of Catholicism to fiddler out the impurities. And yes, given my 360 red ringed, I imagine it would be easy to pwn me at Halo right now. [quote name='Tally Marx' timestamp='1295670371' post='2202930'] Nice! I keep a special journal for all the quotes I find! I hope you do not mind that I have stolen some from you...? [/quote] Not at all I've taken some from this thread too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximilianus Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) "May we never risk the life of our souls by being resentful or by bearing grudges." - St. Gregory of Nyssa "Friendship is the source of the greatest pleasures, and without friends even the most agreeable pursuits become tedious". - St. Thomas Aquinas Edited January 22, 2011 by Maximilianus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vee Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 [list][*] i just want to announce in a loud voice on vocation station "QUIT WONDERING AND JOIN ALREADY. THAT LIFE IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL GIFT, AND YOU'RE JUST WASTING TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - dominicansoul [*][/list] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didacus Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 [quote]I have had experience with many who wish to deceive, but no one who wished to be deceived.[/quote] [b]Augustine[/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 [quote name='BigJon16' timestamp='1295488053' post='2202017'] "Life is hard; it's harder if you're stupid." -John Wayne [/quote] I lol'd. [quote] [size="+2"][color="#000000"][size="2"][font="Arial"]In Nomeni Patri Et Fili Spiritus Sancti." -The Boondock Saints.[/font] [/size][/color][/size] [/quote] I didn't really like that movie, but what really kicks me in the shins is how whatever idiot transcribed the quote to the interweb.com for the first time obviously had never had even the slightest exposure to Latin. [quote name='ipwnuathalo' timestamp='1295643624' post='2202635'] This is every atheist's favorite Christian saying. That alone should be enough to make us wary of repeating it. [/quote] What an...um...unique way of thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximilianus Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 "We belong to the Church militant; and She is militant because on earth the powers of darkness are ever restless to encompass Her destruction." -Pius XII, AD 1953 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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