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cmotherofpirl

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1294789984' post='2199137']
This is far from Palin's only thoughtless ad in this fashion. Yes there are similar ads(can you link to some you were referring to?), but Palin's is the first to strike a chord of actually possibly being to blame for several deaths, given that one of the people named and covered by a crosshair was shot. The person who was shot actually expressed that the ad was worrying before she was shot.

So there may be more ads like this, but this is the first that "just got real". It seems to be a false alarm, but given how plausible that stuff like this could have set things off, im hoping everyone takes the hint, and cuts it out with these inciteful ads and speeches.

Yeah, i did miss that. I dont read the Daily Kos, unless specifically linked to it for something that sounds interesting. I also missed where those comments were relevant? so, not everyone liked this politician? im not surprised, thats pretty much the job description.

saying someone is "dead to you" is not in any way a threat, btw. It has similar vocabulary, but the meaning of the phrase is significantly different, and mostly implies dissapointment. If i recall correctly, PM was rife with similar comments about McCain during the last election. "McCain is dead to me because he isnt as conservative as he could be/voted wrong on this issue 3 years ago, etc"
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You are missing the point - her ad is no different than any democratic ad that uses crosshairs and targets - they are common in both parties - so singling out Sarah Palin for standard advertising practice as if she is threatening someone says volumes about the critics and nothing about the issue.

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For the sake of conversation, could someone point to who is harping that this is politically motivated or affiliated? For the sake of compassion, lets not entertain the debate of speculative possibility, political motivations and affiliations are not known in this case.

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cmotherofpirl

[quote name='Mr.CatholicCat' timestamp='1294790774' post='2199149']
For the sake of conversation, could someone point to who is harping that this is politically motivated or affiliated? For the sake of compassion, lets not entertain the debate of speculative possibility, political motivations and affiliations are not known in this case.
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Within one hour of the shooting Sarah Palin and/or the tea partiers were blamed for the movitating the shooter. One hour.

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[quote name='cmotherofpirl' timestamp='1294791047' post='2199153']Within one hour of the shooting Sarah Palin and/or the tea partiers were blamed for the movitating the shooter. One hour.[/quote]Can you link me to that? You must forgive me, I am not as glued to the news as others may be. Which I'm not so sure if that qualifies as politically motivated or affiliated...

Political culture all around has become volatile and hostile, the tea party movement included.

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KnightofChrist

[url="http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/01/dem-congressman-who-called-gop-gov-be-put-against-wall-and-shot-n"]Dem Congressman who called for GOP Gov. to be put against a wall and shot now pleads for civility[/url]

Ex-Rep. Paul Kanjorski, D-Pa., pens an op-ed in the New York Times today about the proper political response to this weekend's tragedy. I wholeheartedly support the former Congressman (Kanjorski lost his seat in November) when he argues that, following this weekend's shooting, Congressman need to remain open and accessible to the public. However, Kanjorski is rather hypocritical when he climbs up on his soapbox:

We all lose an element of freedom when security considerations distance public officials from the people. Therefore, it is incumbent on all Americans to create an atmosphere of civility and respect in which political discourse can flow freely, without fear of violent confrontation.

Incumbent on all Americans to create an atmosphere of civility and respect? Congressman heal thyself! Yesterday, I noted that, according to the Scranton Times, Kanjorski said this about Florida's new Republican Governor Rick Scott on October 23:

"That Scott down there that's running for governor of Florida," Mr. Kanjorski said. "Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him and shoot him. Put him against the wall and shoot him. He stole billions of dollars from the United States government and he's running for governor of Florida. He's a millionaire and a billionaire. He's no hero. He's a beaver dam crook. It's just we don't prosecute big crooks."

I'll give Kanjorski the benefit of the doubt that he did not literally mean Scott schould be killed. Regardless, Kanjorski's way over the rhetorical line compared to the kinds of statements liberals are pointing to as evidence that Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh are creating a "climate of hate," to borrow Paul Krugman's phrase. And somehow I doubt that there would have been crickets from the national media if a Republican politician called for a Democratic candidate to be shot barely a week before the election.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/01/dem-congressman-who-called-gop-gov-be-put-against-wall-and-shot-n#ixzz1AmKuB0VJ

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yeesh, the more you guys post, the more glad i am that canadian politics are not this retarded. sure, they may be less interesting but i would much rather read about US politics that live there.

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So... a nine year old was shot and killed. A lot of people died at the hands of a seriously mentally ill person.

Perhaps we should spend more time praying for the repose of their souls, remembering who they were, and less time mud slinging.

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KnightofChrist

[quote name='Brother Adam' timestamp='1294796532' post='2199195']
So... a nine year old was shot and killed. A lot of people died at the hands of a seriously mentally ill person.

Perhaps we should spend more time praying for the repose of their souls, remembering who they were, and less time mud slinging.
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You're right of course, I should have known better.

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ThePenciledOne

[quote name='Brother Adam' timestamp='1294796532' post='2199195']
So... a nine year old was shot and killed. A lot of people died at the hands of a seriously mentally ill person.

Perhaps we should spend more time praying for the repose of their souls, remembering who they were, and less time mud slinging.
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I mentioned that a couple pages of posts ago, but eh everyone wants to rant on whose (right or left) is to blame or whatever.

Typical mindset here in good ol USA, I guess.

But, I think that qualifies as mud slinging, so I will say I am sorry.

God Rest that little girl's soul, Heaven help the man here on earth, and Lord protect everyone who is wounded and lost loved ones.

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[quote name='rachael' timestamp='1294776407' post='2199043']
It's like he stole my book list.

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Better keep an eye on you. . ..

[quote name='ThePenciledOne' timestamp='1294782662' post='2199090']
I like them as well.

:saint:
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Including the [i]Communist Manifesto[/i]?

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[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1294794879' post='2199186']
yeesh, the more you guys post, the more glad i am that canadian politics are not this retarded.
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Thus says the Canadien who initiated the political mud-slinging in this thread.


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sure, they may be less interesting but i would much rather read about US politics that live there.[/quote]
US politics that live where??

Must be that superior Canadian grammar . . .

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ThePenciledOne

[quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1294799768' post='2199209']
Including the [i]Communist Manifesto[/i]?
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Yep.

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[quote name='KnightofChrist' timestamp='1294790577' post='2199144']
What about liberals making a movie where George W. Bush was assassinated, which was popular on the leftist and liberal blogosphere?
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Here is the list:

Death Threats Against Bush at Protests Ignored for Years [Zombietime pictureblog]



Keith Olbermann 'Called To The Floor' for Bristol Palin 'Worst Person' Segment?



Libtalker [Mike Malloy] To Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly: Time To Die



Envious (Liberal Talk Radio Host) Ed Schultz Likens Limbaugh to Hitler



Chris Matthews Fantasizes About Killing Rush Limbaugh



Salon Publishes Call for Murder of Sarah Palin



[Keith] Olbermann Targets [Michelle] Malkin: Without 'Fascistic Hatred' She's a 'Mashed-Up Bag of Meat with Lipstick'



Actor Richard Belzer: Limbaugh, Beck 'Fascist Stooges'; Fox News 'Racist,' 'Misogynistic'



Chris Matthews Calls Liz Cheney 'Daughter of Dracula'



Death Threats Force FreedomWorks to Move



[Ann] Coulter Speech Cancelled Over Security Fears!



[Keith] Olbermann compares 'Jihadists' to Brit Hume on religion



Alan Grayson on MSNBC: Fox News is a Threat To This Country



Vile Huffington Post Puts Brisol & Willow Palins Private Facebook Comments Online



Palin daughters are threatened, taunted in Facebook war



Sandra Bernhard Calls Bristol Palin a Hooker on 'Joy Behar Show'



[Joy] Behar: "This Bit**" Sharron Angle Is "Going To Hell"



Exposure by Free Republic Forces Huffington Post to Pull Article Threatening Glenn Beck



WARNING: Palin Derangement Syndrome Outbreak at the Daily Beast



Palin Derangement Syndrome Returns: Blogger Mocks Governor for Wearing Glasses



Madonna Downplays Her Physical Threats Against Sarah Palin: 'It's A Metaphor'



Democrats (Liberal Extremists) Issue Death Threats Against Sarah Palin & Eric Cantor



Fox News: Man Arrested Over Death Threat Against Rep. Eric Cantor



TMZ: Bristol Palin getting death threats, 'Dancing with the Stars' ramps up security



Media Bias: MSNBC Host [Ed Schultz]: We Ought to Rip Out Cheney's Heart & Kick It Around

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Oh please.

That's just caustic humor and mockery, not something truly ugly like target marks on a campaign map.

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