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[url="http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20110113/NEWS/101130341/-1/PRINCIPALGOLF/Northeast-Iowa-monks-supply-casket-for-Arizona-victim"]Youngest victim to be buried in casket made and donated by Trappist Monks in Iowa.[/url]

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[quote name='BG45' timestamp='1294939686' post='2199671']
[url="http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20110113/NEWS/101130341/-1/PRINCIPALGOLF/Northeast-Iowa-monks-supply-casket-for-Arizona-victim"]Youngest victim to be buried in casket made and donated by Trappist Monks in Iowa.[/url]
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That is really really kool, what a blessing for the family.

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[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1294881449' post='2199500']
That is almost as silly as a Polish guy in 1939 saying he cant complain about German policies because he isnt a german citizen. Countries reach outside their borders all the time, and the USA has awfully large influence on canadian policies and our citizens.
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Hmm...I had Sternhauser pegged as the one who would bring up Nazis first. Congrats on beating him to it. No easy feat!

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[quote name='Ed Normile' timestamp='1294890845' post='2199551']
Oh sure, you can try to hide it all you want you warmonger, but its there in black and white when one reads between the lines, Stern has called for the nuclear annihilation of Canada, and I feel he is on to something !

ed
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It's so nice that there's something we can all agree on!

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J-lol,

In all seriousness, Canadian or no, your political posts would be a bit easier to take seriously if they weren't so laughably ill-informed and biased - as it seems American left-wing punditry is the sole source of your information.


And for someone who claims to be so concerned with American policy and its effect on the world, since the 2008 elections, you've shown remarkably little concern with those who are actually responsible for current American policy -such as the Obama administration and the leadership in Congress.

Instead, the vast bulk of your ire on here is directed at a governor of Alaska who may or may not run for president (and is unlikely to win if she does), a news network that it is evident from your remarks you do not watch, right-wing talk show hosts you don't listen to, and who have no position in the government, and grass-roots movements such as the Tea Partiers who are unhappy with the political status quo and want [i]less[/i] government power - and basically anybody else who is at odds with liberal Democrat policy.


The problem is that rather than informed, unbiased outside observations of American politics, your postings instead come across as simple-minded and predictable parroting of the American Left.

I'm just glad you can't vote here.

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[quote name='Ed Normile' timestamp='1294880275' post='2199485']
You are right Stern, we should definetly nuke Canada. :eek:

ed
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as much as it might provide a good bit of externalization for you'all to blow up someone you can make short work of, do remember a couple of things:

1) you might wreck some of the natural resources you purchase
2) that border is not only undefended, it is unlikely to stop nuclear fallout from going below the 49th parallel
3) who will South Park blame?

:blowkiss:

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[quote name='Sternhauser' timestamp='1294865387' post='2199425']
Nonsense. That's like saying, "I didn't choose the plantation owner, so I can't complain about him." You, as one who has not inflicted a politician on other people, have the most right to complain. The whole "If you didn't vote, you can't complain" bit is a hellacious fallacy.

~Sternhauser
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I think that slavery is a lot like living in a liberal, western democracy. So what are you? The enlightened slave who altruistically chooses to remain on the plantation to warn the other slaves?

Your abstract arguments might be more convincing if you gave off the impression that you yourself actually believe what you are saying. I'm sure that in a very abstract, steril sense you do believe what you preach, but I really doubt that you believe your own message down to your very core.

It reminds me of Tolstoy. Hr really, in an abstract and steril sense, believed in the beauty of the Russian peasants life. Enough so that he would dress like a Russian peasant. Just not enough to actually give up his wealth and title.

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[quote name='ThePenciledOne' timestamp='1294940362' post='2199675']
That is really really kool, what a blessing for the family.
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That's what I thought too when I first saw it on the crawl on one of the news stations :)

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[quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1294948435' post='2199741']
I think that slavery is a lot like living in a liberal, western democracy. So what are you? The enlightened slave who altruistically chooses to remain on the plantation to warn the other slaves?[/quote]

I guess I'm just a slave who wants to get beat as little as possible. Nothing necessarily altruistic about it. Why would I want to move to another plantation, under a different slavemaster? There are worse slavemasters out there, but that is certainly not to say that this slavemaster is good. In addition, I already know [i]this [/i]slavemaster's routines, so I can avoid his influence as much as possible.

[quote]Your abstract arguments might be more convincing if you gave off the impression that you yourself actually believe what you are saying. I'm sure that in a very abstract, steril sense you do believe what you preach, but I really doubt that you believe your own message down to your very core. [/quote]

My arguments in favor/against what? What gives you the impression I don't believe what I say I believe?

[quote]It reminds me of Tolstoy. Hr really, in an abstract and steril sense, believed in the beauty of the Russian peasants life. Enough so that he would dress like a Russian peasant. Just not enough to actually give up his wealth and title.[/quote]

Still not seeing what "hypocrisy" you're trying to point out, Hassan.

~Sternhauser

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[quote name='notardillacid' timestamp='1294942001' post='2199689']
Hmm...I had Sternhauser pegged as the one who would bring up Nazis first. Congrats on beating him to it. No easy feat!
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I think that in a world in which sodomite unions, multiple divorces and remarriages, abortion, contraception, euthanasia, and torture are considered "acceptable," that references to the Nazi Party are one of the last remaining useful examples of something nearly universally recognized as "evil." The example will no longer serve that role, once people are being rounded up and slaughtered by the State here, of course. They'll say, "This is nothing like Nazi Germany." And they'll be right. It will be far worse. But no. "It can't happen here."

~Sternhauser

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dominicansoul

Rep. Giffords seems to be making great progress! It must be all the prayers she's getting from all over the nation, and the world!

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[quote name='Sternhauser' timestamp='1294949392' post='2199750']
I think that in a world in which sodomite unions, multiple divorces and remarriages, abortion, contraception, euthanasia, and torture are considered "acceptable," that references to the Nazi Party are one of the last remaining useful examples of something nearly universally recognized as "evil." The example will no longer serve that role, once people are being rounded up and slaughtered by the State here, of course. They'll say, "This is nothing like Nazi Germany." And they'll be right. It will be far worse. But no. "It can't happen here."

~Sternhauser
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I don't see what that has to do with my post, which was addressed to Jesus_lol, congratulating him on his accomplishment :blink:

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[quote name='notardillacid' timestamp='1294950262' post='2199754']
I don't see what that has to do with my post, which was addressed to Jesus_lol, congratulating him on his accomplishment
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Clearly.

~Sternhauser

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dominicansoul

Hey, Stern...it's too bad the police, so overloaded with steroid rage, didn't get a hand on this guy before he went on this shooting spree...

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[quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1294945134' post='2199718']
J-lol,

In all seriousness, Canadian or no, your political posts would be a bit easier to take seriously if they weren't so laughably ill-informed and biased - as it seems American left-wing punditry is the sole source of your information.


And for someone who claims to be so concerned with American policy and its effect on the world, since the 2008 elections, you've shown remarkably little concern with those who are actually responsible for current American policy -such as the Obama administration and the leadership in Congress.

Instead, the vast bulk of your ire on here is directed at a governor of Alaska who may or may not run for president (and is unlikely to win if she does), a news network that it is evident from your remarks you do not watch, right-wing talk show hosts you don't listen to, and who have no position in the government, and grass-roots movements such as the Tea Partiers who are unhappy with the political status quo and want [i]less[/i] government power - and basically anybody else who is at odds with liberal Democrat policy.


The problem is that rather than informed, unbiased outside observations of American politics, your postings instead come across as simple-minded and predictable parroting of the American Left.

I'm just glad you can't vote here.
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Cool story bro. Lets face facts, the only way you would ever consider my opinion "informed" is if it mirrored yours exactly.

My concern over Obama? honestly, he is majorly disappointing to me. And i have said that many many times here, glad you were listening. I dont think he is the worldly embodiment of Satan and Stalin's lovechild like most of you guys do, so when you post your opinions on the guy, mine dont often line up. the fact that I defend Obama against accusations of being Hitler-Stalin does not mean that i approve of the guy.
In 2008 i would have voted for Obama(more likely a 3rd party independent) but only as the lesser(in my mind) of two evils. Liberal and Conservative expectations and policies are so far off those of canadian ones, they really only share a name, my ideas on politics far from mirror those of the american Liberals, they just line up a bit better than those of the American Conservatives.

I have posted several times recently(well, before my month long vacation) about recent policy changes, in most of them i expressed disappointment with the actions of both sides, with the nod going to the republicans for being a bit worse(Gee what a freaking surprise, a liberal disliking conservative policy. like that is some sort of bias, if i liked conservative policy, then i wouldnt be a liberal). However, given the general lack of major policy changes recently, due to political deadlock, all that is really left to discuss is the conduct of the various parties. I am quite happy to comment on conduct, because unlike policy, being a jerk is universal, canadian and american.

The conservatives set Sarah Palin up as a media darling, hype her every word, get her a TV show, spot on a news channel, and put her a heart attack away from being a potential president, and people are surprised when she is talked about.

Tea Party? heck i probably would have voted for Ron Paul, the libertarian founder of the original Tea Party, had i known more about him. The basic ideals he put into place, i find a good bit of common ground with. to a certain extent, the modern Tea Party pays lipservice to those ideas, but I have yet to see evidence that the majority of the Tea Party nowadays arent just Fringe GOP members.

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