ironmonk Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 John 14:16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate 8 to be with you always, 17 the Spirit of truth, 9 which the world cannot accept, because it neither sees nor knows it. But you know it, because it remains with you, and will be in you. 18 I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you. Jesus promised that the Church would be guided by the Holy Spirit, in Truth. The Church cannot be wrong about faith and morals, because Jesus said so. 1 Tim 3:15 But if I should be delayed, you should know how to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of truth. The Church is the Pillar and Foundation of truth. To be the Pillar and Foundation of Truth, then the Church must have the authority to teach the Word of God, to teach it infallibly. Infallibly because it is guided by God. St Matt 18:17 (Jesus said) If he refuses to listen to them, tell the church. If he refuses to listen even to the church, then treat him as you would a Gentile or a tax collector. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- St. Matt 28:18 11 Then Jesus approached and said to them, "All power in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go, therefore, 12 and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. 13 And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age." Which Church has been making disciples of all nations since the Apostles for 2000 years? Which Church could possibly have Jesus Himself guiding the Church? ....answer to both.... The Catholic Church -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Luke 10:16 "He who hears you hears me, and he who rejects you rejects me, and he who rejects me rejects him who sent me" This is another verse that shows there will be One Church to lead, One Church to preach the truth.... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 Timothy 3:14 But you, remain faithful to what you have learned and believed, because you know from whom you learned it, 15 and that from infancy you have known (the) sacred scriptures, which are capable of giving you wisdom for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16 3 4 All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness, This shows that someone taught it....The scripture spoken of here is the Septuagint... The New Testament was not around until 400 AD. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 Thess 2:15 Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours. 8 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 Tim 2:2 And what you heard from me through many witnesses entrust to faithful people who will have the ability to teach others as well. These faithful people...who could they be??? Which Church has been around since the Time of Christ & His Apostles? .... The Catholic Church, fulfilling the commands of Jesus. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Romans 10:17 Thus faith comes from what is heard, and what is heard comes through the word of Christ. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Peter 1:25 But the word of the Lord abides for ever.’ That word is the good news which was preached to you -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ephesians 3:5 which was not made known to human beings in other generations as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit, -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ephesians 2:20 built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the capstone. 10 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Corin 11:2 1 I praise you because you remember me in everything and hold fast to the traditions, just as I handed them on to you. These traditions spoken of are what the Catholic Church hands on.... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Corin 15:3 3 For I handed on to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures; -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Corin 15:11 Therefore, whether it be I or they, so we preach and so you believed. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Acts 2:42 8 They devoted themselves to the teaching of the apostles and to the communal life, to the breaking of the bread and to the prayers. They devoted themselves to the "teaching" of the Apostles, not scripture. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Acts 8:27 So he got up and set out. Now there was an Ethiopian eunuch, a court official of the Candace, 8 that is, the queen of the Ethiopians, in charge of her entire treasury, who had come to Jerusalem to worship, 28 and was returning home. Seated in his chariot, he was reading the prophet Isaiah. 29 The Spirit said to Philip, "Go and join up with that chariot." 30 9 Philip ran up and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet and said, "Do you understand what you are reading?" 31 He replied, "How can I, unless someone instructs me?" So he invited Philip to get in and sit with him. The Catholic Church is a gift from Christ sent to instruct us. Christ promised that the gates of hell would not prevail against the Church (Matt. 16:18) and the New Testament itself declares the Church to be "the pillar and foundation of the truth" (1 Tim. 3:15). Now for the common sense stuff.... If the Bible is the only, infallible, authoritative Word of God, seeing that it was the Catholic Church that put together the canon of the bible... What does that make the Catholic Church????? The ONLY authority to teach the bible and get it right. God Bless, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willguy Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 ironmonk is my hero! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 He should write a book. I'de buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovechrist Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 if he wrote a book, i'd make sure it stayed on the bestseller list for years to come. i knew about the Acts passages, but wasn't sure about the others. thanks ironmonk!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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