ironmonk Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 [b]St. John 3:14[/b] [color=red]And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the desert, so must the Son of Man be lifted up,[/color] *Lifted up: in Numbers 21:9 Moses simply "mounted" a serpent upon a pole. John here substitutes a verb implying glorification. Jesus, exalted to glory at his cross and resurrection, represents healing for all. Not only the Crucifixion, but the Crucifix itself... Catholics look toward the Crucifix to be healed, just as the Jews looked toward the serpent of Moses. The Crucifix reminds us of what Christ did, and strengthens our faith. Christ's Church is such a gift... God has given us so many things to touch all of our senses to build faith in Him. God Bless, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennC Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Thats a very very interesting thought!! Peace of Christ, Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Huether Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 [quote name='ironmonk' date='Apr 20 2004, 06:30 AM'] [b]St. John 3:14[/b] [color=red]And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the desert, so must the Son of Man be lifted up,[/color] *Lifted up: in Numbers 21:9 Moses simply "mounted" a serpent upon a pole. John here substitutes a verb implying glorification. Jesus, exalted to glory at his cross and resurrection, represents healing for all. Not only the Crucifixion, but the Crucifix itself... Catholics look toward the Crucifix to be healed, just as the Jews looked toward the serpent of Moses. The Crucifix reminds us of what Christ did, and strengthens our faith. Christ's Church is such a gift... God has given us so many things to touch all of our senses to build faith in Him. God Bless, ironmonk [/quote] You tha man. Thanks for that insight. Very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willguy Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 swEEtness^2! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Whoa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Conquers Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 sweeeeeeeet. Layers... so many layers. Like an Ogre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin_the_MASS Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 The Cross is a plus sign! Good insight ironmonk. God Bless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Ironmonk, where would Phatmass be without your profound insights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovechrist Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 good point Dave... without Ironmonk.. we wouldn't have more to debate how did you come up with that ironmonk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted April 20, 2004 Author Share Posted April 20, 2004 (edited) Looked at the daily reading, then thought of the Crucifix, then thought of the anti-Catholic attacks about the Crucifix and realized that I had never seen this verse used to show what Christ's Church teaches... then BAM! Got all excited, did a little dance, and got down to typing. God Bless, ironmonk Edited April 20, 2004 by ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 [quote name='God Conquers' date='Apr 20 2004, 10:55 AM'] sweeeeeeeet. Layers... so many layers. Like an Ogre [/quote] Ogre's are like onions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxk Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 Ironmonk rocks my world! :headbang: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 (edited) Ironmonk, may I quote you on my website in a debunk section? Edited April 20, 2004 by Brother Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted April 20, 2004 Author Share Posted April 20, 2004 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Apr 20 2004, 04:00 PM'] Ironmonk, may I quote you on my website in a debunk section? [/quote] It's your website bro... how am I to tell a man what he can and can't do in his own house - I am thankful that you feel I have provided something useful for your website. It shows me that my time spent posting is not in vain. It makes me feel great that you all like this. Thank you. Love in Christ, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Apr 20 2004, 01:59 PM'] Ogre's are like onions. [/quote] no ogre's are like Cake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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