Micah Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Can a Catholic be possessed, especially after we've been baptized, confirm, and generally participate in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Also, will you be seeing this movie? [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk5n-fVoNaU[/media] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenciledOne Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 I am pretty sure it's still possible, though rare. Have you read this book yet? "An Exorcist Tells His Story" It's written by the former chief exorcist of Rome, Fr. Gabriele Amorth, and he answers a lot of these sort of questions. [i]It's really good as well.[/i] The summary: In this powerful book, the renowned exorcist of Rome tells of his many experiences in his ministry as an exorcist doing battle with Satan to relieve the great suffering of people in the grip of evil. The importance of the ministry to "expel demons" is clearly seen in the Gospels, from the actions of the Apostles, and from Church history. Fr. Amorth allows the reader to witness the activities of the exorcist, to experience what an exorcist sees and does. He also reveals how little modern science, psychology, and medicine can do to help those under Satan's influence, and that only the power of Christ can release them from this kind of mental, spiritual or physical suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted December 27, 2010 Author Share Posted December 27, 2010 No I haven't, but it's on my mental checklist of books to read. As soon as I recover from the last whackload of books I just bought. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/clap2.gif[/img] It seems that exorcists are making a comeback. I hope it is because we were short and not because the need is increasing, though I suspect both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 that movie is based on the non-fiction book, so we will see how it turns out. i won't probably see it in the theatres, but will once it is rentable. and yes, i believe a Catholic can be possessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSoG Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Well I have to say that the trailer looked pretty awesome...or maybe it was just the music! lol Well to answer your question yes I do believe Catholics as well as any other Christian can get possesed. Now a devout Catholic/Christian would be unlikely but not impossible. A person who was not so devout, such as out brothers and sisters who just hold Catholic or Christian as a name and nothing more, on the other hand would be at a far greater risk. Yes we do have our baptism to protect us but sometimes that is not always enough. At the moment though I'm a little rusty on my spiritual warfare knowledge so if you would like to know more I'll try to get back to you after I've skimmed through my books again. Also another good book to add to your collection is 'Interview with an Exorcist' by Fr. Jose Antonio Fortea. It is a very good book that is set up in a question answer style and is easy to follow and full of great things to assist in spiritual warfare. Though be warned, it has some heavy stuff in it and as with anything dealing with demons and so forth should only taken in small doses. One more thing, I liked in the trailer what was said about the devil not wanting to be seen and thought of as not there. Very true statement that too many people now a day believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tally Marx Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I'm always leary about movies about the Church and priests and nuns, because it has been so very long since I have seen a new one that [i]was not[/i] blasphemous in some way or another, or one which showed the Church in a good light. When/if someone here sees this movie, can you please tell me how it is? I'll see it if it is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) The trailer made the movie look pathetic. A standard Hollywood thriller. Just add water and stir. I have only seen two trailers. But here is the movie: "Young, hip, street-smart priest meets old, dowdy priest. Becomes dowdy priest's apprentice. Insert generic smart-mouth comments on the part of fresh young priest, including how old-fashioned the old priest is. Old priest counters with dry, biting comments about how naive the young priest is, when young priest makes dangerous mistake. Amazed, chastened look on young priest's face as he grows to respect old priest. Old priest teaches priest how to exorcise, amidst much heel-dragging. Old priest becomes possessed. Young priest realizes the old priest was right, that's it's not all hokum! Facing his own hidden demons and doubts, he begins the exorcism. His skills are put to the test, as he struggles with the forces of evil to liberate old priest from dark powers. An emotional rollercoster and hilarity ensues! A witty, irreverent time had by all." That'll be $14, please. ~Sternhauser Edited January 22, 2011 by Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='Micah' timestamp='1293430283' post='2194599'] Can a Catholic be possessed, especially after we've been baptized, confirm, and generally participate in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Also, will you be seeing this movie? [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk5n-fVoNaU[/media] [/quote] It is quite possible and it does happen. In fact every diocese is supposed to have an exorcist. God allows Satan to send demons to harass, oppress, and possess us. Not because Satan has power over God, but because God gives Satan some amount of power on earth by which to test us. The movie..... eh. I dunno. The book didn't impress me much. For it to be dramatized into a movie it will probably not be very good, because not much can measure up to The Exorcist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithLuin Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I think part of the problem is that any movie about an exorcism is going to be compared to [i]The Exorcist[/i]...and the people making it know that. So, there's that self-conscious vibe that goes into making one. One can hope that it wouldn't be terrible, but...we'll see. I'm not generally a fan of horror flicks. Being Catholic (baptized, confirmed, etc) does not make one immune from demonic influence. A full-blown possession would be...unusual...to say the least, but there were saints who suffered from it (unless I am completely mistaken). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I can recommend "Dominion: Prequel to the Exorcist." A tad cheesy at some points, but when it's good, it's very good. And it's a bit more realistic in showing the "big picture" when it comes to demonic influence. ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) [quote name='MithLuin' timestamp='1295732375' post='2203132'] I think part of the problem is that any movie about an exorcism is going to be compared to [i]The Exorcist[/i]...and the people making it know that. So, there's that self-conscious vibe that goes into making one. One can hope that it wouldn't be terrible, but...we'll see. I'm not generally a fan of horror flicks. Being Catholic (baptized, confirmed, etc) does not make one immune from demonic influence. A full-blown possession would be...unusual...to say the least, but there were saints who suffered from it (unless I am completely mistaken). [/quote] You are correct, it has been known to happen on occasion. Demonic oppression (to use Fr. Amorth's distinction) is more common, of course. Edited January 22, 2011 by Nihil Obstat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I won't be going to see the movie. Anything relating to demonic possession scares the living poo out of me. As to can Catholics be possessed/obsessed, I agree with everyone else who explained that it can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkKurallSchuenemann Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Micah' timestamp='1293432438' post='2194604'] No I haven't, but it's on my mental checklist of books to read. As soon as I recover from the last whackload of books I just bought. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/clap2.gif[/img] It seems that exorcists are making a comeback. I hope it is because we were short and not because the need is increasing, though I suspect both. [/quote] It is my general opinion, Satan is trying really hard to do something on the Earth right now (think aliens and all that stuff), and is getting a bit desperate because there are people who are trained in such things fighting back right now - ensuring God's will is done on Earth as it is in Heaven. The Lord's prayer is a powerful prayer in spiritual warfare - especially if you are earnest that God's will is done on Earth as it is in Heaven. As I recite that part of the prayer, I always go - God let Heaven and Earth and my life be as you said they would be today based upon the Bible, as I place my hand on the word of God! IOW, Satan is getting desperate, and he's making tonnes of mistakes right now - like any serial killer! And yes, any believer can be possessed by a demon, Catholic or Protestant. All you need to do is not understand what the still small voice of God is and then start listening to other voices! Edited January 22, 2011 by MarkKurallSchuenemann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I actually don't agree with the above post. I think Satan is having an easier time now than he has in the past, largely because he has managed to convince people that he's just a silly superstition. If you asked 50 Catholics what they think about exorcism, I'd be willing to bet that 40 of them will tell you that it's one of those old things they did in the past before we had psychiatric doctors and medicine. Satan changes his tactics to suit the prevailing culture, so it makes sense that he can hide in plain site in this day and age. He can hide behind abortionists, ouija boards marketed to tweens, and malefices that nobody believes in anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkKurallSchuenemann Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1295741100' post='2203196'] I actually don't agree with the above post. I think Satan is having an easier time now than he has in the past, largely because he has managed to convince people that he's just a silly superstition. If you asked 50 Catholics what they think about exorcism, I'd be willing to bet that 40 of them will tell you that it's one of those old things they did in the past before we had psychiatric doctors and medicine. Satan changes his tactics to suit the prevailing culture, so it makes sense that he can hide in plain site in this day and age. He can hide behind abortionists, ouija boards marketed to tweens, and malefices that nobody believes in anymore. [/quote] I said the above because I have some 'expertise' in this. Yes, Satan is scared right now - because God doesn't need 10 people who believe to do something against Satan. Remember, in old testament verses, God promised Israel that if one man stood against a 1000, he would send them to flight, and two men would utterly destroy 10,000 - because God would go out before them and fight their battles for them. So, in the new testament, the there has been a shift between the flesh to the spirit, so if one man could stand against a 1000 in battle in the natural, than one man with the holy spirit can face 1,000 demons in the spiritual because God is going forth and defeating those spirits for us. Because of this, Satan is running out of evil spirits he can send against us, because there is only a limited supply, and so he is acting in desperation right now, and rightfully so. He is the one who should be afraid, not us. We've been promised to tread upon serpents and scorpions through the name of Jesus - and we know that means - we have power over all evil spirits! Don't loose hope, God is winning this war for us. It is only a matter of time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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