MissScripture Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Okay, because this year is so weird with when Christmas and New Years falls, I'm a little confused about the requirements for attendence at Holy Day Masses. Obviously, Christmas is a must, and then of course Sunday Mass. But then with New Years Day, which is the Solemnity of Mary, the Mother of God, falling on a Saturday, are we required to go to Mass then, too? Or is that one of those that you don't have to if it's on a Saturday or Monday? Is it something that differs by diocese? I've heard different things from different people. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggyie Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Jan 1 is not a day of obligation in my diocese this year. I think it does vary from diocese to diocese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 [quote]Whenever January 1, the solemnity of Mary, Mother of God, or August 15, the solemnity of the Assumption, or November 1, the solemnity of All Saints, falls on a Saturday or on a Monday, the precept to attend Mass is abrogated.[/quote] http://www.usccb.org/liturgy/q&a/general/obligation.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 [quote name='MissScripture' timestamp='1292174989' post='2192331']Or is that one of those that you don't have to if it's on a Saturday or Monday? [/quote] This. [quote]Is it something that differs by diocese?[/quote] And this. It is not required this year in my diocese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissScripture Posted December 12, 2010 Author Share Posted December 12, 2010 SO, let's say you're in a different diocese than your diocese on this day...do you go by your diocese's requirements or the diocese that you happen to be in that day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah147 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 (edited) Just check your Ordo book. It tells where you are to be in your Divine Office, what days are obligitory, etc. Edited December 12, 2010 by JoyfulLife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 (edited) [quote name='MissScripture' timestamp='1292179794' post='2192344'] SO, let's say you're in a different diocese than your diocese on this day...do you go by your diocese's requirements or the diocese that you happen to be in that day? [/quote] It's not diocese-by-diocese, a decree was made some years ago by the US Bishop's conference for the whole country. http://www.usccb.org/liturgy/q&a/general/obligation.shtml Edited December 12, 2010 by thedude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafka Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 [quote name='thedude' timestamp='1292180430' post='2192348'] It's not diocese-by-diocese, a decree was made some years ago by the US Bishop's conference for the whole country. http://www.usccb.org/liturgy/q&a/general/obligation.shtml [/quote] from the link: In addition to Sunday, the days to be observed as holy days of obligation in the Latin Rite dioceses of the United States of America, in conformity with canon 1246, are as follows: January 1, the solemnity of Mary, Mother of God; Thursday of the Sixth Week of Easter, the solemnity of the Ascension; August 15, the solemnity of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary; November 1, the solemnity of All Saints; December 8, the solemnity of the Immaculate Conception; December 25, the solemnity of the Nativity of Our Lord Jesus Christ. [b]Whenever January 1, the solemnity of Mary, Mother of God[/b], or August 15, the solemnity of the Assumption, or November 1, the solemnity of All Saints, [b]falls on a Saturday or on a Monday, the precept to attend Mass is abrogated[/b]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah147 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Normile Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 (edited) Great link Kafka, that clears it up with no discussion or worries of mistakes. I think its a great thing that they allow these three days to be missed if they fall on a saturday or a monday, who would want to waste an extra three hours of their lives each year honoring the Solemnity of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Solemnity of her Assumption, or the Solemnity of All Saints anyway? Afterall there are only 8,766 hours in a year how much of our time does the church need anyway? They blatantly ask us for an hour each sunday, we could get to the show or restaurant earlier without this requirement and then to ask for three extra hours to honor Mary and the Saints, heck even though they offer evening masses and masses at different times during the day, what a nerve? Could you not keep watch with me for one hour? ed Edited December 13, 2010 by Ed Normile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teen_Catholic Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 [quote name='MissScripture' timestamp='1292179794' post='2192344'] SO, let's say you're in a different diocese than your diocese on this day...do you go by your diocese's requirements or the diocese that you happen to be in that day? [/quote] I was on vacation last year at the time in a diocese I was visiting did not require it. They just had a daily Mass w/o the solemnity so I didn't go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides quarens intellectum Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 (edited) [quote name='kafka' timestamp='1292181818' post='2192352'] from the link: In addition to Sunday, the days to be observed as holy days of obligation in the Latin Rite dioceses of the United States of America, in conformity with canon 1246, are as follows: January 1, the solemnity of Mary, Mother of God; Thursday of the Sixth Week of Easter, the solemnity of the Ascension; August 15, the solemnity of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary; November 1, the solemnity of All Saints; December 8, the solemnity of the Immaculate Conception; December 25, the solemnity of the Nativity of Our Lord Jesus Christ. [b]Whenever January 1, the solemnity of Mary, Mother of God[/b], or August 15, the solemnity of the Assumption, or November 1, the solemnity of All Saints, [b]falls on a Saturday or on a Monday, the precept to attend Mass is abrogated[/b]. [/quote] I've always found it interesting that of our non-Sunday Holy Days of Obligation, Mary gets three of them, our Lord gets two, and then Mary and the rest of the saints get one. Try explaining that to a Protestant. Edited December 13, 2010 by fides quarens intellectum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizabeth09 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 I think that my parents will be going to two masses both weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Normile Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 [quote name='fides quarens intellectum' timestamp='1292270452' post='2192581'] I've always found it interesting that of our non-Sunday Holy Days of Obligation, Mary gets three of them, our Lord gets two, and then Mary and the rest of the saints get one. Try explaining that to a Protestant. [/quote] Every sunday is actually a Holy Day of Obligation for Our Lord Jesus and we know he lived and died with humilty, that is how I would explain it. ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherie Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote name='MissScripture' timestamp='1292179794' post='2192344'] SO, let's say you're in a different diocese than your diocese on this day...do you go by your diocese's requirements or the diocese that you happen to be in that day? [/quote] In the cases in which this applies, I was told by a Dominican priest (who is also a canon lawyer) you are to go by the diocese in which you happen to be in that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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