Ladies Should Ware Veils In Church

[Guest T.Fidelis]

Traditionally women would ware veils at the Mass, but the waring of such garments has sadly come into considerable disuse, especially by the younger ladies of the Church.

If one takes a look at Sacred Scripture, he can easily see that St.Paul taught that ladies should cover their head in church.

He writes:

"Every man praying or prophesying with his head covered, disgraces his head. But every woman praying or prophesying with her head uncovered disgraces her head."

In other words, such a woman wounds her feminine dignity.

From this custom arises Canon 1262.2 of the traditional Canon Law of the Church:

[Men should be with head uncovered in church or outside of church, when they assist at the sacred rites, unless the
approved customs of the people or additional particulars
of the circumstances call for something else; women, however, should be with head covered and modestly dressed,
particularly when they approach the Lord's table.]

Sixty years ago this teaching of the Church was so commonly followed, but now it is so commonly ignored. Why?

[rkwright]

Aside from the command from sacred scripture, I'm pretty sure the Canon you're refering to was abrogated in the 1983 Code.

Edit: BTW its "wear" not "ware"

Edited December 10, 2010 by rkwright

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='T.Fidelis' timestamp='1292020300' post='2192026']
[Men should be with head uncovered in church or outside of church
[/quote]
Why should men not cover their heads outside of church? Where I'm from, every respectable gentleman wears (or at least used to wear) a hat when in a formal or semi-formal setting (outdoors, at least).

[Guest T.Fidelis]

[quote name='rkwright' timestamp='1292020868' post='2192030']
Aside from the command from sacred scripture, I'm pretty sure the Canon you're refering to was abrogated in the 1983 Code.

Edit: BTW its "wear" not "ware"
[/quote]

Just because a Canon is abrogated, does not mean the abrogation was the correct thing to do. The Canon I am refering to is taken from the 1917 Code of Canon Law. As you can see the abrogation of this Canon in 1983 is contrary to what the teaching of the Church was for centuries. Am I to obey the Law of God, which has been affirmed by 260 Popes, or a novelty invented by a man (even if the man happens to be the Roman Pontiff)? I must obey the teaching, which is made known through tradition, of the invisible head of the Church, Christ.

What say you?

Thank you for the spelling correction.

[vee]

If you make and/or sell veils then wearing your wares in Church where you go on Sunday may be acceptable providing you are not selling them. Were you to do so, especially during Mass then Hell might be where you end up.

[Guest T.Fidelis]

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Why should men not cover their heads outside of church? Where I'm from, every respectable gentleman wears (or at least used to wear) a hat when in a formal or semi-formal setting (outdoors, at least).
[/quote]


If you were to read a bit further you would have seen that the Canon does not imply that a man must always be uncovered, it states that he must be uncovered in the church and when he is assisting with a religious rite outside the church (e.x. an acolyte leading a procession- outdoors- would not lawfully be able to have his head covered, due to the fact he is assisting in a religious rite) . This Canon in no way means that a man is forbidden by Church Law to wear a cap to a ball game. That would be silly. It also in no way implies that a women must have her head covered at all times, but only at Mass, and while she is participating in a religious service ( ex. following a procession, a lady lawfully must have her head covered).

I hope this clears things up for you.

[Vincent Vega]

It is clearer now. Apparently the Vatican was in-between punctuators in 1917.

[SoonerCatholic]

I always thought the practice of women wearing headcoverings in church would be more meaningful if men still wore hats to take off before entering church.

As it stands I don't think the CCL makes headcoverings mandatory and there's nothing wrong with that, although I think wearing a veil laudable as a pious and private practice.

[rkwright]

[quote name='T.Fidelis' timestamp='1292027889' post='2192050']
Just because a Canon is abrogated, does not mean the abrogation was the correct thing to do. The Canon I am refering to is taken from the 1917 Code of Canon Law. As you can see the abrogation of this Canon in 1983 is contrary to what the teaching of the Church was for centuries. Am I to obey the Law of God, which has been affirmed by 260 Popes, or a novelty invented by a man (even if the man happens to be the Roman Pontiff)? I must obey the teaching, which is made known through tradition, of the invisible head of the Church, Christ.

What say you?

Thank you for the spelling correction.
[/quote]

Well two things. First just because it is not included in the 1983 code does not mean the commandment is not still in effect. Think of it this way: the requirement to veil was in effect prior to the 1917 code the code merely confirmed it. There was a big thread on this before. Now, personally, I feel like taking it out of the code was more than just an "oversight", and perhaps represents dropping the requirement - though I'm not fully convinced.

Second, it is arguable the veil is a matter of discipline - one that may be changed by the Church as She sees fit.

[HisChildForever]

I think there are more important topics to debate about than getting bent out of shape over women who do not wear a veil to Mass.

[MissScripture]

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I think there are more important topics to debate about than getting bent out of shape over women who do not wear a veil to Mass.
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Not to mention, I think this smiley was created specifically to post in topics like this one.

[Selah]

[quote name='HisChildForever' timestamp='1292097585' post='2192164']
I think there are more important topics to debate about than getting bent out of shape over women who do not wear a veil to Mass.
[/quote]


Indeed. Like abortion, pornography, etc...

Let's put our energy to better use

[CatherineM]

Haven't had a good death penalty fight in awhile.

I'm not sure I have the energy right now to have a 1917 versus 1983 Code of Canon Law fight right now. Maybe after finals.

[rkwright]

Ok I know some people are rolling your eyes, but this is actually a good discussion when you get into it deeper. Think of it this way, which of the commandments of the New Testament are still binding on us today? I think there are more than just this one, but I can't recall off the top of my head.

[Selah]

I have to admit it would be fun to go on Christian Teen Forums and pose this argument to them