Usda Asked To Approve Gmo Apple That Won't Brown

[rachael]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101129/ap_on_bi_ge/us_food_and_farm_brown_apples

Ew.

[CatholicCid]

[quote]"Quite honestly, I would rather have an apple turn brown than think it's still OK because it's still white," he said. "I'm not discounting the anti-browning. It's just not the panacea."[/quote]

[kafka]

dont mess with the apples people.

[rachael]

is the brown-ness of the apple really that serious that we have to mess with genetics?

[kafka]

hey?

the intended end is profit.

[Ed Normile]

I guess that even though it does not spoil they checked it out and discerned that it would digest properly? I wonder if this type of product could have some side effects, say ten years down the line the realize it causes some undesirable side effects, or perhaps it could be like those sugar alcohols that mimic sugar while not dissolving which allow them to be no fat yet cause digestive gases and diarrhea in some people. That would be better than others that cause things like cancerous tumors in certain subjects. I am of the opinion that God created apples and in his wisdom thought they were the bees knees, why mess with God's creation people.

ed

[rachael]

[quote name='kafka' timestamp='1291089050' post='2189961']
hey?

the intended end is profit.
[/quote]
Well, yes. But since when did the browning of apples hurt you?

Why change what nature and God created?

[kafka]

[quote name='rachael' timestamp='1291121682' post='2190010']
Well, yes. But since when did the browning of apples hurt you?

Why change what nature and God created?
[/quote]
I agree. I should have said excess of profit.


I should analyze this from an ethical Catholic point of view.

Edited December 1, 2010 by kafka

[ardillacid]

[quote name='rachael' timestamp='1291121682' post='2190010']
Well, yes. But since when did the browning of apples hurt you?

Why change what nature and God created?
[/quote]
Isn't that the purpose behind selective breeding? This is just a shortcut

[CatholicCid]

[quote name='rachael' timestamp='1291121682' post='2190010']
Well, yes. But since when did the browning of apples hurt you?

Why change what nature and God created?
[/quote]

Could the browning of apples be a result of the fall?

[kafka]

[quote name='CatholicCid' timestamp='1291177644' post='2190137']
Could the browning of apples be a result of the fall?
[/quote]
No, I doubt it, what principle would this be based off of? Isnt just a chemical reaction with the air? I mean an apple is meant to be eaten whole, not sliced and preserved in a bag for weeks.

Another thing these companies could do who sell sliced apples in bags is sprinkle them with lemon juice, this blocks browning. But then they would have to spend money on lemons.

Why not just sell whole apples people? Preferably organic.

Edited December 1, 2010 by kafka

[CatholicCid]

[quote name='kafka' timestamp='1291178005' post='2190140']
No, I doubt it, what principle would this be based off of? Isnt just a chemical reaction with the air? I mean an apple is meant to be eaten whole, not sliced and preserved in a bag for weeks.
[/quote]
Wasn't nature affected by the fall? Who knows, maybe apples didn't brown and spoil in the garden?

[kafka]

[quote name='CatholicCid' timestamp='1291179156' post='2190145']
Wasn't nature affected by the fall? Who knows, maybe apples didn't brown and spoil in the garden?
[/quote]
In general certainly, the entire cosmos are affected by Adam's sin, and God's profound and just perpetual punishment. In terms of particulars this difficult to say. We're not sure if there were apples in Paradise. But anything is possible with God. Perhaps God triggered different genes after the Fall.

Edited December 1, 2010 by kafka

[rachael]

[quote name='notardillacid' timestamp='1291176988' post='2190135']
Isn't that the purpose behind selective breeding? This is just a shortcut
[/quote]
A genetically modified organism (GMO) or genetically engineered organism (GEO) is an organism whose genetic material has been altered using genetic engineering techniques. These techniques, generally known as recombinant DNA technology, use DNA molecules from different sources, which are combined into one molecule to create a new set of genes. This DNA is then transferred into an organism, giving it modified or novel genes. Transgenic organisms, a subset of GMOs, are organisms which have inserted DNA that originated in a different species.

[quote name='kafka' timestamp='1291178005' post='2190140']
No, I doubt it, what principle would this be based off of? Isnt just a chemical reaction with the air? I mean an apple is meant to be eaten whole, not sliced and preserved in a bag for weeks.

Another thing these companies could do who sell sliced apples in bags is sprinkle them with lemon juice, this blocks browning. But then they would have to spend money on lemons.

Why not just sell whole apples people? Preferably organic.
[/quote]
People are lazy.

[ardillacid]

[quote name='rachael' timestamp='1291207863' post='2190180']
A genetically modified organism (GMO) or genetically engineered organism (GEO) is an organism whose genetic material has been altered using genetic engineering techniques. These techniques, generally known as recombinant DNA technology, use DNA molecules from different sources, which are combined into one molecule to create a new set of genes. This DNA is then transferred into an organism, giving it modified or novel genes. Transgenic organisms, a subset of GMOs, are organisms which have inserted DNA that originated in a different species.

[/quote]
Yep, I knew the basics of biology when I posted that