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ReXteryalizerUri

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#000080"][color="#000000"]As for polygamy..
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Catholics saY, that to CONDEMN Polygamy .... / ~[color="#000000"] One simply can just go and quote Jesus. [/color] [color="#ff0000"]"In the beginning, it was not so."

[/color][color="#8b0000"][u]These 7 words "In the beginning, it was not so"
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[color="#006400"]Concerning the introduction of divorce into the Mosaic law,

explains to the people that God had not intended marriage to be that way.
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· This is true

BUT ~~ if you paY aTTenTion

Jesus [color="#000000"]was NOT~~ ( in any way, at all )~~ asked about anything ~ [/color]concerning POLYGAMY.

[color="#ff0000"][u]Jesus, NOR [/u][color="#000000"]anyone in the passage was asked ABOUT[/color][u], adding more WIFES[/u][/color].

..or Marrying multiple wifes


Jesus said CONCERNING divorse...........you may NOT PUT Away / Divorse you WIFES
...
for NO GOOD REASON

[color="#000000"]The question was about SUBTRACTING wifes....
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For any other reason than them commiting PORNIA.. was Adultery ~/ ....[color="#000080"][u]Pornia is

FORN~ICATION / in the Greek ..
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[color="#000000"]A man can not commit ADULTERY by marying MORE WiFES.

There are no MALE Vrgins[/color] ever EVER once .....[color="#8b0000"]NEVER mentioned in the bible[/color]..

A[color="#ff0000"][u] man can not commit ADULTERY by marying MORE WiFES.
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[color="#000000"]Mat 5:32[/color] [color="#8b0000"]But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of [u]fornication, causeth her to commit adultery[/u]:
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and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adulterY

2 ways a man can commit aultery..

[color="#000000"]1 mary another mans wife....
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[color="#000000"]2 putting away / divorsing a woman / WIFE for No good JUST reason....
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[color="#006400"]To divorse a wife JUST to go mary another is the mans INVOLVMENT in ADULTERY...



HE becomes GUILTY of abandoning his Wife

he has abandoned her & this is his GUILT in adultery HE IS FORCING HER TO MARY ANOTHER MAN......

[color="#800080"]which is adultery

1Co 7:39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.

1Co 7:11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.

[color="#000080"]Rom 7:3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress:[color="#000000"] but if her husband be dead, she [/color]is [/color][color="#ff0000"]free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
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Rom 7:2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.

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NONE of these scriptures [size="4"]apply NEVER ever in any way to the MAN..
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The man can take as many wifes as he is blessed with..

THE woman is to remain single / or be reconciled to her husband:
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There is not a single BIBLICAL verse giving this commandment to the MAN...

IT DOES NOT eXist.........because polygamy is biblical.......holy....and pure in Gods eYes...

[color="#8b0000"]From Gen to Rev

Jesus said Mat 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, [color="#ff0000"][u]causeth her to commit adultery:[/u]

[/color][u]causeth her to commit [/u]

[u]EX 21:10 ……[/u][color="#000000"]IF ( A SON or /MAN } take himself ANOTHER WIFE[/color][u]; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not DIMINISH. [/u]

[u]DE. 21:15 IF A MAN HAVE TWO WIVES,….: .. he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of [THE UNFAVORED WIFE] which is indeed the firstborn: adultery:[/u]

[u]Polygamy has LAWS.....to secure the safety & respect to all your wifes.....[/u]

[/color][u]...NOTICE........causeth her to commit adultery: [/u]

[u]A man does not commit adultery BY marying more wifes..[/u]

[color="#808000"][u]THIS IS never ever ever once in the bible... [/u]
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In fact Jesus VIEW on Polygamy is very clear..

[color="#808000"]Polygamy, being the main form of marriage of the entire bible & the best form of marriage for mankind,

[/color]Jesus told us of the 10 VIRGINS who went out to meet the GROOM. Husband ..



[color="#0000ff"][color="#008000"][color="#ff0000"][u]Jesus being that very HUSBAND / the GROOM......./,....~ He is telling US that the KINGDOM of heaven in like a polygamous relationship..
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The parable is relating A HUSBAND ./ Groom spiritually taking 10 virgins as the Church Bride[/color]...

[color="#808000"]The church is the BRIDE of The Husband Jesus.

Jesus is compairing the KINGDOM of HEAVEN to the biblical tradition [/color]of a Groom ./ Husband with 10 virgins.....HIS Bride.

Now we know that Jesus was speaking ONLY spiritual Symbolic nature and not a seXual or earthly marriage..

But when mentioning a REAL polygamous SUBJECT......Jesus was compairing POLYGAMYS concept to the Kingdom of HEAVEN..

[/color][color="#000000"]In a realistic PARABLE[/color].......Obviously as the ENTIRE bible is PRO polYgamy.

[color="#000000"]Jesus has no problem Compairing Polygamy & the Idea of having MANY wifes......as a HEAVENLY holy comparison...

in all & total complete harmony with the teaching on marriage...and the BIBLICAL Godly family



[/color]The kingdom of heaven IS like this GODLY TRADITIONAL polygamous concept ….

This is Jesus … still in line & right on target & confirming the marriage ordained BY God.

[color="#2e8b57"][u]What does your bible say about family, seX, having children and marriage ?
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ReXteryalizerUri

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]BOOK OF MORMON Condemns Joseph Smith for polygamy.

. See Jacob 1:15; 2:23,24,27,31; 3:5; Mosiah 11:2-4; Ether 10:5,7.[/size][/font][/b]

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[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Jacob 1:15
THey indulge themselves somewhat in wicked practices, such as like unto David of old desiring many wives and concubines, and also Solomon, his son.[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Mosiah 11:2 2 And he had many wives and concubines. And he did cause his people to commit sin, and do that which was abominable
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[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][/size][/font][/b]not do that which was right in the sight of the Lord, for he did have many wives and concubines,

ect....

No reX is not mormon.....

reX is a biblical Christian...who believes Gods word..

Who is not interested in man made fabrications ..... but looks at Gods word as for eXactly what its message & meaning says WORD for WORD..

How do mormons find any comfort in their own BOOK of MORMON.... condemning polygamy..

When their 2 main , so called prophets .... had over 15 wifes apeice..

This is what reX is trying to say.....people dont pay attention ..to what the bible says,

They rely on others opinions.... & really deep in their hearts could care less what history has occured.

What the bible says,,,,,what their VERY own teachings...... from the past.... has taught in their own religions ..

religions like catholicsim, mormonism, protestantism, & islam....that have so many many people.....JUST following what they have been taught by their MOTHER & FATHERS...or peers .

or Just taking someones faith...with No CLOSE realistic look at the bible in compairison...to the bible..

reX could go deeper & deeper into all of this .....but it has been a 10 - 15 yr study into every Greek & Hebrew word....all religions ...and details....

It takes so many words to discribe & its hard to keep peoples attention...

reX.... has to practically make people mad.....just to get them to read his posts...and even leave them some small errors to feel they can correct

JUST to get them to READ & get the truth OUT

they try to distract and make it personal.........

it just takes too many words & so much concentration & YOU have to study it in anger and resentment....JUST to find out the truth.....

But it is worth finding out the truth....instead of living in a state of faith based on what someone told you.....

INSTEAD of what really is truth ?

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ReXteryalizerUri

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]think about it,.........

while society……..is………Tolerating & CELEBRATING ORGIES, prostitution AND GAY MARRIAGE

h.o.m.o Child adoption, INTERNET BEASTALITY, abortion

and even CHILD PORN AND PEDEPHILIA FOR UPPER CLASS CITZENS.



Which all are condemned & damned in the Scriptures....

They spit on Polygamy marriage that is shown to be blessing in Gods word..





[/size][/font][/b][b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#a0522d"]In quoting the ONE FLESH scriptures ...
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[/size][/font][/b][b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#a0522d"]Can we also note that in the greek & Hebrew .....the words ONE FLESH

in the bible discribing Husband and wife.

The one flesh meaning is / from the Greek word MIA Meaning First or UNITY, one ...

And not the Grek word HICE...meaning a primary numeral one = 1. and NEVER . no more than 1....

That Greek word is HICE.....meaning a primary numeral one = 1. and no more than 1....

the hebrew word [/color][color="#a0522d"]אחד' echâd [i]ekh-awd' [/i]Meaning [i]united[/i], or [i]first: - [/i]a, alike, first, + or , together. UNITY.....[/color]

[/size][/font][/b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][b][color="#a0522d"]As well

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This is the " They will be ONE FLESH " & meaning and define used in the book of Genesis..

it is not saying they will be only 1. single flesh...



Psa 119:162 I rejoice at thy word, as one that findeth great spoil.



[/b][b]The word ONE is used here was well it is the completly different hebrew word H3605 כּול כּל[/b][/size][/font][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][b][sup] [/sup] kôl

NOT a numeral 1. Or even used in meaning unity ...[/b]

[/size][/font][size="3"][b][font="Arial Black"][color="#808000"][u]The bible even declared that a man can be ONE , MIA. Unified , unity or with a WHORE..[/u][/color]

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[color="#808000"][u]Every new customer the whore has had seXual relations with, they are ALL Unified, ONE FLESh.......each time they become ONE flesh,,[/u][/color]

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[color="#808000"][u]It is not a numeral 1.......But the man & woman....HUSBAND & WIFE..[/u][/color]

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[color="#808000"][u]The 2.....become UNITED. ONE...Complete...... ...[/u][/color]

1Co 6:16 Or do you not know that he being joined to a [color="#8b0000"]harlot is one body? [/color][color="#000000"]For He says, The two shall be one flesh.[/color]

[color="#8b0000"][color="#000000"]HOW MANY [/color]TIMES [color="#ff0000"]HAS THE PROSTITUTE BEEN ONE FLESH [/color][/color][color="#000080"]WITH ANOTHER PERSON?[/color]

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[color="#8b0000"]1CO 7:2 [/color]

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NEVERTHELESS, TO AVOID FORNICATION, LET EVERY MAN HAVE HIS[color="#8b0000"] OWN HEAUTOU WIFE[/color], AND LET EVERY WOMAN HAVE HER[color="#a0522d"] OWN IDIOS HUSBAND../ [/color]...........TWO DIFFERET WORDS TWO DIFFERENT MEANINGS





[/font][/b][b][font="Arial Black"]The VERY bible used 2 separate GREEK WORDS….assigning the role for HUSBAND & WIFES…….for the words [color="#ff0000"]own wife[/color] & [/font][/b][/size][size="3"][font="Arial Black"][color="#ff0000"][b]own husband….
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[/size][size="3"][b][font="Arial Black"][color="#ff0000"][color="#8b0000"]One[/color] is singular / One is [/color][color="#000000"] PLURAL
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[/size][b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#8b0000"][u]OWN IDIOS HUSBAND is SINGULAR[/u][/color]…..meaning 1. only



[color="#0000ff"]O W N - HEAUTOU WIFE is A COMPLETELY SEPARATE……WORD USED IN THE BIBLE IN THE ORIGIONAL…..GREEK…..[/color]



POLYGAMY, still running in line[color="#8b0000"] still in precept[/color]…..in perfect harmony….in GODS WORD



OK

EVERY MAN HAVE [color="#0000ff"]HIS OWN WIFE[/color]

the Greek

(((((( O W N - HEAUTOU -

HEH-OW-TOO' ) ==== ((( PRONOUN OTHERWISE OBSOLETE AND THE GENITIVE/ MEANING

GENITIVE ADJ : SERVING TO EXPRESS OR INDICATE

POSSESSION; "POSSESSIVE PRONOUNS HIM (HER, IT, THEM ALSO [IN

CONJUNCTION WITH THE PERSONAL PRONOUN OF THE OTHER PERSONS SELF (-

SELVES ) OUR (THINE) OWN (-SELVES ), plural



remember . ... ... EVERY MAN HAVE [color="#8b0000"]HIS OWN[color="#ff0000"] HEAUTOU[/color] WIFE[/color], AND LET EVERY WOMAN HAVE [color="#8b0000"]HER OWN [color="#ff0000"]IDIOS[/color][color="#ff0000"] [/color]HUSBAND[/color]


OK, EVERY WOMAN HAVE HER OWN HUSBAND.



OWN ; - IDIOS - ID'-EE-OS ( OF UNCERTAIN

AFFINITY; PERTAINING TO SELF, THAT IS, ONE'S OWN; BY IMPLICATION PRIVATE OR SEPARATE: HIS ACQUAINTANCE, WHEN THEY WERE ALONE,

APART, ASIDE, DUE, HIS (OWN, PROPER, SEVERAL SEPERATE), HOME, (HER, OUR, THINE, YOUR) OWN (BUSINESS), PRIVATE (-LY), PROPER, SEVERALLY-SEPERATE, THEIR (OWN).))))..



SINGULAR…greek word for own….HUSBAND





AGAIN POLYGAMY we see RUNNING PURE AND SIMPLE IN THE GREEK TERMS AND MEANINGS AND PASSAGES OF GODS WORD..

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fides quarens intellectum

[quote name='ReXteryalizerUri' timestamp='1297150067' post='2210020']
No reX is not mormon.....

reX is a biblical Christian...who believes Gods word..
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oh, so you're Catholic?

:secret: and I believe it should be "God's" instead of "Gods" since we only believe in one God.

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Mark of the Cross

[quote name='sixpence' timestamp='1297275155' post='2210609']
oh my goodness!! this thread has been over-run by colors and giant text!!
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He wants to present us with Colourful writing!

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1297275231' post='2210611']
He reminds me of Stormstopper. I wonder if I still have sinister eyes.
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No, Stormstarter would do something with your name like, Hiho Obstinate.or sexpance

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ReXteryalizerUri

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"] [/size][/font][/b][b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][/size][/font][/b]


[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]When the Jews kiled their evil enemies. / WHAT were they to do with [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]THE women ?
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[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][/size][/font][/b] the Women & children of the ENEMIES were WELL & RESPECTFULLY taken [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]care of.[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#808000"]The bible CLEARLY gives the commandment in ....Dealing with The women [/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#808000"] of THE ENEMY..../. that Israel were commanded to to respect.[/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#808000"] Deu 21:10 tells clearly about When thou goest forth to war against [/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#808000"]thine enemies. Kill THE MEN......& [color="#000080"][u] The women are to be BROUGHT [/u][/color][/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#000080"][u]home to thine house; and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails.[/u][/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#808000"]THIS was done for CLEANLINESS.. [/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]The pagan women of All the ENEMIES[color="#8b0000"].......were not living by the [/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#8b0000"]CLEANLINESS LAWS, of moses [/color]of washing clean, staying away from germs [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]and diseases. [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#9acd32"][color="#006400"][u]No homosexual acitivity, No Prostitution.....no adultery allowed

..[/u][/color] [/color]That the BIBLE was very [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]strict about To keep the Hebrews Healthy, and long living.[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"] cont.....[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Deu 21:13 And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]husband, and she shall be thy wife. [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Deu 21:14 And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then [color="#ff0000"][u]thou [/u][/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#ff0000"][u]shalt let her go whither [color="#0000ff"]she will; but thou shalt not[/color] sell her at all [/u][/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#ff0000"][u]for money, thou [color="#0000ff"]shalt not make [/color]merchandise of her. [/u][/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]No ENSLAVING, No Raping, [color="#006400"][u] no forcing women of the enemy to be a [/u][/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#006400"][u]wife....[/u][/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]That was the LAW[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"] [/size][/font][/b][b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"] [/size][/font][/b][b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]The real - situation was cocerning Isreal, DEALING with the Evil [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Amalekites.[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#4b0082"][u]The Amalekites [color="#800080"]ATACKED and KILLED many of The Hebrews [/color](Under Moses)~ [/u][/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]AS the Hebrews [color="#483d8b"][u]were comming from EGYPT, [/u][/color]__)( ......where enslaved for [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]400 yrs )[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]The Jews, {comming from EGYPT} were tired & hurting, THEY WERE [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]attacked..![/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]The Amalekites for no REASON / went to the REAR of the Hebrews, and [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#8b0000"][u]killed off / picked off ......
.......the tired, feeble [/u][color="#ff0000"]people lagging and falling behind[/color][u], who were [/u][/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#8b0000"][u]faint, weak, tired, hurting and weary..as they were traveling.[/u][/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#2f4f4f"]The Amalekites did this horrible act and MUCH MORE[/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#2f4f4f"]Stirring up , many MANY others around JERICO - to attack the [/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#2f4f4f"]Hebrews.[/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]When the Hebrews did nothing but try to pass onward to the PLACE where [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]ABRAHAM their FATHER had origionated from. ISRAEL[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"] THE JEWS were traveling, The Amalekites attacked their children, tired [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]men & women and elder grandparents. ( THE WEAK & INNOCENT ) From the [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]rear, Falling behind....[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Here is a small eXample of what the Jews went through.. The bible [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]eXplains it here.[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Deu 25:17 Remember what Amalek did unto thee by the way, when ye were [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]come forth out of Egypt; [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#8b0000"]Deu 25:18 How he met thee by the way, and smote the hindmost of thee, [/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#8b0000"]even all that were feeble behind thee, when thou wast faint and weary; [/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#8b0000"]and he feared not God.

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[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]God commanded the Jews to completly distroy these people...BECAUSE they [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]were so evil and horrible...[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]They were trully violent, cruel, wicked and enjoyed hurting innocent [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]people.[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Durring this war [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]The Prophet Jer 48:[color="#808000"]10 was saying / Cursed be he that doeth the work [/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#808000"]of the LORD deceitfully, and cursed be he that keepeth back his sword [/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#808000"]from blood. [/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#808000"]People were slacking in the war and not taking the THREAT of their [/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#808000"]enemies seriously, Jeremiah was telling them to defend themselves and [/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#808000"]complete the Mission.[/color][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]When Isreal went to war they usually Made the women of the ENEMY their [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]wifes..[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"] [/size][/font][/b][b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"].Polygamy is BIBLICAL......and a blessing..... The bible CONDONES [/size][/font][/b][b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]polygamy,[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]From the OLD to the NEW Testament.....
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Laudate_Dominum

I wish I understood where you were coming from. I don't get your posts brah. :cry2:

what religion or denomination are you? just curious.

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Tab'le De'Bah-Rye

A sexual act must have all three meanings, unitive, marital, procreative to be moral, inherently good. So the Pope would never teach this, not even in an interview, which is where the media distorted what the Pope answered.

Dominus pax, yes you are correct,the media i assume even cuts and pastes bits and pieces to make a collage of what the editor of the story wants the world to see,with so often the key pieces missing especially if the editor is jumping on the media hype ban wagon if somone or something is being attacked or glorified.

God bless

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[quote name='Laudate_Dominum' timestamp='1297285100' post='2210664']
I wish I understood where you were coming from. I don't get your posts brah. :cry2:

what religion or denomination are you? just curious.
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Gosh you're dumb! Anything that is emphasised as important and meaningful is done so in black, small lower case and not in bold.

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[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Please....reX is not into calling anyone dumb..

we all come from different lifes, backgrounds and all have something to contribute..

reX would like the opportunity to be corrected....It would make him even more in the right,....to know where he was wrong..

But you say.... as a Catholic....that..
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A sexual act MUST have all three meanings = , [u][color="#0000ff"]unitive,[/u] [u]marital,[/u] [u]procreative[/u] [/color][/size][/font][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]to be moral, ?[/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]What >? [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Abraham was with Sarah, [color="#ff0000"]His sister [/color]for many, many years / and [color="#ff0000"]by YOUR standards [/color]they were neither unitive or procreative..[/size][/font]

[u][color="#004dbb"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]His SISTER[/size][/font][/u][/color][font="Arial Black"][size="3"], Sarah was Baren, [color="#004dbb"]UNABLE TO even HAVE 1 SINGLE Child...their whole LIFE[/color].... So their marriage WAS [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]IMMORAL ? ? [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Genesis 18:12 And Sarah laughed...... saying, After I am become old, [color="#c0504d"]shall I have PLEASURE [/color]with My Lord Abraham ? [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]~~~~~~~When Jesus Apeared to Abraham, Telling Him & Sarah they would have a Son[/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"] [/size][/font]

[color="#c0504d"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Sarahs 1. st thought [/size][/font][/color][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#ff0000"]was about having pleasure [/color][color="#c0504d"]again....

[/color][/size][/font][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#9b00d3"]Adam & Eves Children were having Marriage & seXual relations Brothers & Sisters....So their marriage WAS IMMORAL ? ?

[/color][/size][/font][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Aaron and Miriam were nephew and aunt (Exod. 6:20; Lev. [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#9b00d3"]Jacob married 2 first cousins which were sisters and had sex MAKING 12 children which created the Jewish race.

[/color][/size][/font][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]This is IMMORAL ? [/size][/font]
[font="Arial Black"][size="3"] [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Nachor (Abraham's brother) married Melcha (his niece). Gen 11:26[/size][/font][color="#c0504d"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"] [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Moses Mother and Father Were [/size][/font][/color][color="#ff0000"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]nephew and aunt [/size][/font][/color][color="#c0504d"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"] [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]And Amram took to wife Jochabed his aunt by the father's side: and she bore him [/size][/font][/color][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#9b00d3"]Aaron and Moses[/color][color="#c0504d"].. Ex 6:19-20
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[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]people were [u][color="#9b00d3"]FULLY & COMPLETLY [/u][/color][/size][/font][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]PRO INCEST up till THE FLOOD ....God stoped it because of Genetic problems & A [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]breakdown of Genetics became obvious.[/size][/font]


[color="#9b00d3"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]FROM THE BEGENING Adams & Eves Children were Polygamous, Brothers & Sisters were inner~marrying..[/size][/font]

[/color]
[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]When Jesus Christ ( The Lord ) apeared to Abraham when he was 99 yrs old telling Him He would have a Seed to continue his promise. [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"] [/size][/font][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]{ A full blooded Jew } [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]The BIBLE CALLS a POLYGAMOUS RELATIONSHIP.....a HOLY Beautifull & Excellent SITUATION...[/size][/font]

[color="#c0504d"][color="#c0504d"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Isaiah 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach. [/size][/font]

[/color][/color]
[color="#ff0000"][color="#ff0000"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Isaiah 4:2 In that day shall the branch of the LORD be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the earth shall be [/size][/font][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]excellent and comely [/size][/font][/color][/color][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]//[/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]The PROPHECY here is SAYING that [color="#9b00d3"][color="#9b00d3"]7 women will be married to 1. man [/color][/color]JUST to have HIS NAME..ALONE[/size][/font][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]..and be a part of HIS life....[/size][/font]

[color="#9b00d3"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]the branch of the LORD WILL be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the earth shall be excellent and comely [/size][/font][/color][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]///[/size][/font]


[color="#c0504d"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]WHAT you and your popes are calling IMMORAL..and WRONG [/size][/font]

[/color][u][color="#ff0000"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]..God is saying is beautiful and glorious, excellent and comely [/size][/font]

[/u][/color][color="#c0504d"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]and MORAL//[/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]WHY [/size][/font]
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[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]reX has been comming ~ from the very pages of Gods holy word.[/size][/font]


[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]This is the book Jesus Commanded John to send to the churches[/size][/font]


[color="#ff0000"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Christ established a bible receiving church. [/size][/font]

[/color][u][color="#9b00d3"][color="#9b00d3"]
[/color][/color][color="#9b00d3"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]12 times in the book of rev...JESUS HIMSELF COMANDS JOHN Saying,[/size][/font]

[/u][/color]
[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]" , write a book, / BIBLE & send it unto the churches.[/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]The Greek word FOR book is Biblios or Biblion BIBLE[/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]JESUS NAMED ( by locaTion _) THESE ~ HIS)... 7 MAIN bible receiving CHURCHES..
~[/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]This was the chuch reX is comming from.[/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]This bible receiving CHURCH WHO believes all of Gods word.....[/size][/font]

[color="#ff0080"]
[u][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]* There was no church in ROME, Jerusalem or antioch at this time to accept or receive THE BIBLE.[/size][/font]

[/color][color="#ff0080"][color="#ff0080"]
[/color][/color][color="#ff0080"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]* There was No church in ROME interested in Jesus, The gospel or the bible.[/size][/font]

[/color][color="#ff0080"][color="#ff0080"]
[/color][/color][color="#ff0080"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]* Thats Y Jesus never mentioned a Catholic or ROme, church.[/size][/font]

[/u][/color][color="#9b00d3"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]In AD 80- 90...... Jesus listed the 7 main churches in Asia & N. Africa [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]John wrote BY inspiration of the Holy Spirit the Book of Revelation....[/size][/font]

[/color][color="#9b00d3"][color="#9b00d3"]
[/color][/color][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]These 7 MAIN Churches in Asia & N. Africa where the Jewish Christians had been scattered to since around AD 70[/size][/font]

[color="#9b00d3"][color="#9b00d3"]
[/color][/color][color="#9b00d3"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Joh 10:35 JESUS CLEARLY STATED the word of God came TO THE JUDGES & the Scripture cannot be broken; [/size][/font]

[/color][u][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]THE N.T- BIBLE WAS WRITTEN BY ALL JEWS[/size][/font]

[/u][color="#9b00d3"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"].THE EARLIEST BIBLE OUT OF AFRICA IS THE VETUS ..BIBLE OF 200 AD [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Vetus Itala BIBLE

[url="http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/quickquestions/keyword/Martin%20Luther"][size="1"]http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/quickquestions/keyword/Martin%20Luther[/size][/url][/size][/font]

[/color][url="http://www.realdouayrheims.com/vetusitala.html"][u][color="#0000ff"][color="#0000ff"][font="Arial Black"][size="1"]http://www.realdouayrheims.com/vetusitala.html[/size][/font][/u][/color][/color][/url][font="Arial Black"][size="1"] [/size][/font][url="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15367a.htm"][u][color="#0000ff"][color="#0000ff"][font="Arial Black"][size="1"]http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15367a.htm[/size][/font][/u][/color][/color][/url][size="1"]

[font="Arial Black"]& [/font][/size][url="http://www.marianmessenger.ph/index.php/browse-by-topic/marian-prayers"][u][color="#0000ff"][color="#0000ff"][font="Arial Black"][size="1"]http://www.marianmessenger.ph/index.php/browse-by-topic/marian-prayers[/size][/font][/u][/color][/color][/url][size="1"]

[font="Arial Black"]& [/font][/size][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_Testament_Latin_manuscripts"][u][color="#0000ff"][color="#0000ff"][font="Arial Black"][size="1"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_Testament_Latin_manuscripts[/size][/font][/u][/color][/color][/url][size="1"]

[font="Arial Black"]& [/font][/size][url="http://www.biblebelievers.net/BibleVersions/kjcforv2.htm"][u][color="#0000ff"][color="#0000ff"][font="Arial Black"][size="1"]http://www.biblebelievers.net/BibleVersions/kjcforv2.htm[/size][/font][/u][/color][/color][/url][size="1"]

[font="Arial Black"]& [/font][/size][url="http://textus-receptus.com/w/mediawiki-1.13.2/index.php/List_of_New_Testament_Latin_manuscripts"][u][color="#0000ff"][color="#0000ff"][font="Arial Black"][size="1"]http://textus-receptus.com/w/mediawiki-1.13.2/index.php/List_of_New_Testament_Latin_manuscripts[/size][/font][/u][/color][/color][/url]

[font="Arial Black"][size="1"]& [/size][/font][url="http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=1412876"][u][color="#0000ff"][color="#0000ff"][font="Arial Black"][size="1"]http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=1412876[/size][/font][/u][/color][/color][/url][size="1"]

[font="Arial Black"]& [/font][/size][url="http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0003_0_02930.html"][u][color="#0000ff"][color="#0000ff"][font="Arial Black"][size="1"]http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0003_0_02930.html[/size][/font][/u][/color][/color][/url][size="1"]

[font="Arial Black"]& [/font][/size][url="http://www.answers.com/topic/vetus-latina"][u][color="#0000ff"][color="#0000ff"][font="Arial Black"][size="1"]http://www.answers.com/topic/vetus-latina[/size][/font][/u][/color][/color][/url][size="1"]

[font="Arial Black"]& [/font][/size][url="http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/encyc02.html?term=Bible%20Versions"][u][color="#0000ff"][color="#0000ff"][font="Arial Black"][size="1"]http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/encyc02.html?term=Bible%20Versions[/size][/font][/u][/color][/color][/url]
[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]......................................[/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]The whole /complete Bible, based on Greek manuscripts of N.T. was the Vetus Itala OF 200 AD out of N. Africa[/size][/font]


[color="#ff0000"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Vetus Itala OF 200 AD WAS the WHOLE New Testament Bible...complete in thirty-eight manuscripts, its Old-Testament text survived only in parts. [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Catholic Enc Vol. XV, © 2007 [/size][/font][/color][url="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15367a.htm"][u][color="#0000ff"][color="#0000ff"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15367a.htm[/size][/font][/u][/color][/color][/url]

here

[url="http://www.itsee.bham.ac.uk/vetuslatina/manuscripts.htm"][font="Arial Black"][size="4"][color="#0000ff"]http://www.itsee.bham.ac.uk/vetuslatina/manuscripts.htm[/color][/size][/font][/url]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Thats why Jesus clarified the [color="#4bacc6"]oral traditions[/color],,were [u][color="#c0504d"][color="#c0504d"]corrected.. [/u][/color][/color][/size][/font][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]by the written tradition [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]….outside of Gods word,, [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#4bacc6"]Jesus clearly said is all. void , vain. non effect. & man made.

[/color][/size][/font][b][u][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Paul said[/size][/font]

[color="#00b050"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]1 [color="#8b0000"]Cor . 4:6 learn in us not to think of men. above that which is written ...[/color][/size][/font]

[color="#8b0000"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"] [/size][/font]

[/color][color="#000000"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]if it is not WRITTEN in Gods word....Why do You make it UP ? [/size][/font]
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[/b][/u][/color]
[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]paul- Main elder & MASTER BUILDER OF THE CHURCH/ BY THE Holy Spirit. [/size][/font]


[color="#0000ff"][u][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]PAUL..wrote 14 BOOKS/ Clearly said ,,all written scriptures for correction, doctrine, reproofing and perfecting..[/size][/font]

[/u][/color][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]PAUL COMANDED HIS WRITINGS,/ bible, books, BIBLIOS…..be SENT TO ALL BROTHERS, ALL CHURCHES[/size][/font]

[color="#00b050"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]THE HOLY SPIRIT,...COMANDS /// WRITINGS,/ bible, books, be SENT TO ALL BROTHERS,ALL CHURCHEs and obeyed as the correction, [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]doctrine, reproofing and perfecting.[/size][/font]

[/color][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#c0504d"]Rome or CATHOLICS did not WRITE any of the bible..

[/color][/size][/font][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#ff0000"]Rome or CATHOLICS did not decide the 1 ST. list of books CALLED inspired by the holy spirit..

[/color][/size][/font][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#c0504d"]Rome or CATHOLICS do not follow the bible ot even like the bible....

[/color][/size][/font][color="#ff0000"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]The mere facT ...that the earliest COMPLETE N.T bible was complete [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]BY the year 150 - 200 AD..[/size][/font]

[/color][u][color="#9b00d3"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Catholics dont really like this FACT..[/size][/font]

[/u][/color][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]They still ride on the claim they PUT the bible together in 300 0r 400 AD[/size][/font]


[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]When the fact is the bible was already put together & in a b00K By 150 - 200 AD..[/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]They ignore this eXisting COmplete bible....Deleting the date it was completed in & who made it..[/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Or the fact that it was not made in ROME....Decided in Rome [/size][/font]

[color="#9b00d3"][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Was not Catholics who made this VETUS bible out of North Africa....from JEWS /[/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]In Africa...who had fled from ROMAN & pagan murdering power hungry madmen ... ( whom the likes invented[/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]& MADE into LAW ( UNDER punishment of DEATH ) [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]The ROMAN~ TIC Catholic RELIGION.[/size][/font]

[/color][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]This is reXes church.....A bible believer & church who accepts, believes & honors Christs Word....The BIBLE...[/size][/font]


[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]The Catholic church on the other hand teaches that [/size][/font]


[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]"Neither Sacred Scripture nor universal ecclesiastical tradition, nor again scientific considerations render it advisable to [/size][/font][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]adhere to the opinion that the Flood covered the whole surface of the earth." [/size][/font][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]1913 Catholic Encyclopedia [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]~~~~~~~~~~This can easily be proven to be a blasphemous lie . by reading the bible we find that the waters covered the
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[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]HIGHEST MOUNTIANS of the earth [/size][/font]


[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]The Catholic church on the other hand teaches that [/size][/font]


[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]"The Bible as a literary work had traditions that included myth" CATHOLIC ENC (Vol. 10, page 184). [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]The Catholic church on the other hand teaches that [/size][/font]


[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]"Some of the miracles recorded in Holy Scripture may be fictional and include imaginative literary exaggerations. CATHOLIC [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]ENC (Vol. 10, page 184). [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]The Catholic church on the other hand teaches that [/size][/font]


[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]The episode of Noe and the Ark is imaginative literary creation.[/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]CATHOLIC ENC (Vol. 9, page 887).[/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]The Gospels are not biographies of Jesus and still less scientific history" (Vol. 12, page 403). [/size][/font]


[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Thats WHY when reX discusses things with caTholics & muslims ( who worship the same eXact god )[/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]its always a never ending attempt to make a joke out of the bible, the truth ...With Mockery, Diversions and pretence play pretend [/size][/font][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]ignorance..and overbearing pretentence of mis~understanding.[/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Why not just admit that you dont really like the bible...OR believe it..... But just like some parts....[/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]IT would be an honest statement for all catholics...TRULLY following in Catholic history & teaching...[/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]reX dont like BIRTH COnTROL ..The condoms take away the close intamancy and loving contact between rex and his wifes..[/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]There are many benefits to the use of birth control pills. [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]reX does not allow his wifes to take PILLS [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]•Weight gain of around 12 pounds can be observed in women who take birth control pills. [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]•Birth control pills may cause the formation of cysts in the breasts and these may feel painful and tender to touch. [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]•Birth control pills can also cause blood clots. [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]A clot could in turn cause a stroke.
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•Birth control pills can cause severe shortness of breath and chest pain ''''[/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]•These pills can cause problems of blurred vision or even loss of vision in some cases and severe leg pain in some other [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]cases. [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]THe Birth Control Patch Side Effects[/size][/font]


[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]As with any medicine, side effects are possible with the birth control patch
•Breast tenderness or enlargement
•Headaches
•Skin reactions where the patch was placed
•Nausea. [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]However, not everyone who uses the contraceptive will experience side effects. In fact, most women tolerate it quite well.[/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]If side effects do occur, in most cases, they are minor and either require no treatment or can easily be treated by you or [/size][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][size="3"]your healthcare provider. [/size][/font]

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ReX, it is exceedingly hard to read your posts because of all the colors....which makes it exceedingly hard to respond to your posts.

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