Pope B16 & The New Condom Controversy

[Mark of the Cross]

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[ReXteryalizerUri]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Pls lets stop acting like little 2 yr olds....[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Why do you pretend to be completly so blind, inhibited & unable to read plain english [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]that ........[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]......................reX has posted in clear collorfull easily to understand colors....[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][color="#808000"]Do you think, [/color] if it was all plain ~~ BLACK ~~~ it would make your lies- into truth ? [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Thats about the only defence, you have been able to even come close to comming up with.[/size][/font][/b]

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[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]reX is saying that catholislamic teaching is all over . DONE .... when it comes to the bible...[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Jesus himself has already spake concerning the FLOOD..
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[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]JESUS SAID .....26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]AND YOU say the flood was a MYTH... / imaginative literary creation. [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Fake.... why do u even claim to believe the bible.......WHEN you are calling it a lie.....[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Peter himself said..........1Pe 3:20 the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Why has the vatican NOT BANNED this lying catholic invented book saying [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]The episode of Noe and the Ark is imaginative literary creation. CATHOLIC ENC (Vol. 9, page [/size][/font][/b][b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]887).[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]This is a lie ! A TOTAL LIE and you know it.......[/size][/font][/b]


[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]acording to the NEW TESTAMENT...bible even .....Peter speaks of the FLOOD.....[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Peter says there will come catholislamics in the last day / ( SCOFFERS & LIARS......claiming .[/size][/font][/b]


[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]that the flood never happened.....[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]2Pe 3:3 scoffers, who are willingly ignorant that by the word of God ...............\The world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"][/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]1913 Catholic Encyclopedia [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]"Neither Sacred Scripture nor universal ecclesiastical tradition, nor again scientific [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]considerations render it advisable to adhere to the opinion that the Flood covered the whole [/size][/font][/b][b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]surface of the earth." [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]tHIS IS A LIE.. [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]a deliberate attempt by catholics to undermind and pervert & distroy the Gospel of Jesus Christ The Lord.....[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]the catholic and musim seek to lie about the bible... WHY ![/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]This is eXactly WHAT reX is asking..[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Catholislamics have no answers////......... You have no answers.////.............

JUST complaints about colors and anger that you cant find a come back joke before the night ....is ended.[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]
The pope kissing his Quran.....Bowing down to it like a lost holy relich , he fell in love with .[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Worshiping a book..... ?[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]The entire catholislamic teachings from a to z are filled with nothing but lies.........[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]JOSEPH~~~himself ., was COMMANDED by the ANGEL of the Lord to get MARRIED to Mary.[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Mat 1:24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden { [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]commanded } ~ him, and took unto him his wife: [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Mary was his wife.. and acording to your Catholislamic lie [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]They never had children.. ? [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Why would God command Mary & Joseph to be married... HUSBAND AND WIFE/.....[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]IF they were never to have seX, never to be Husband & wife.. in reality....[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]What kind of insanity is that ? [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]& never to have a single child . ? ?? ? WHAT ? [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Jesus did not need Mary and Joseph, as parents growing up / or to rely upon them for an [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]inheritance.[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]AS a young man.....[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Jesus did not need Mary and Joseph . Did not rely upon them for anything...[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]../. At age 12 ( Just a little BOY....) he was in the temple.... teaching the adults...[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Just a very very short time...... one chapter later.......... He was all alone in the desert being [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]tempted & fasting and receiving visions from Gods spirit....[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]No place to even lay his head ~~~ [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]THE BIBLE SAYS,,, His own brothers did not even believe in him..
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[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]The episode of Noe and the Ark is imaginative literary CATHOLIC ENC (Vol. 9, page 887).[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]This is a lie acording to the NEW TESTAMENT........Peter speaks of the FLOOD.....[/size][/font][/b]


[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]The Gospels are not biographies of Jesus and still less scientific history" (Vol. 12, page 403). [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"] "The Bible as a literary work had traditions that included myth" CATHOLIC ENC (Vol. 10, page 184). [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]"Some of the miracles recorded in Holy Scripture may be fictional and include imaginative literary exaggerations. CATHOLIC ENC (Vol. 10, page 184). [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]we can see why these catholics have no answers........[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]They have to divert EVERY SINGLE.......degree of attention they can possibly muster..[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Because the catholic faith is just as strong as his faith in Gods word... [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]THE bible....to a catholislamic....[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]is nothing just non biographies of Jesus[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Not scientific history [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]THE bible....to a catholislamic....is nothing but myth" and pure fables[/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]THE bible....to a catholislamic....is nothing but fictional and imaginative literary exaggerations. [/size][/font][/b]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Where can reX find a place but in fantasy land. myths, fables, exaggerations,~~~

non truths.................to discuss the bible with catholics ?

when they claim to believe a book.....they despise so much........
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Edited February 12, 2011 by ReXteryalizerUri

[cmotherofpirl]

First of all your posts are too long and contains something like 10 different things you hate about us at once, its overkill.
Secondly they are very hard to understand so people are just ignoring them.

Try picking ONE single thing at a time, one item, describe what you think we believe about it then go from there.
One thing at a time.

[ReXteryalizerUri]

[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]it has nothing to do with HATE

Hate is something you are bringing into this discussion........

the FACTS......one at a time.......are undeniable.............

U can deny them one at a time..........or all at once..

reX still has nothing but facts.........proven by scripture.& historical documented FACT...

Hate has no place....in this discussion........... If there was a single SUBJECT...

JUST one Topic......... you had proof reX was wrong about dont you think one here would have presented it by now ?

reX has a list.............. of facts.....

compare that to a list of lies............... and you dont have much to say...

The originnal FACT & subject was that.

Catholics & Muslims fail

to provide a single place in the entire bible CONDEMNING marriage.... with no intent to produce children.....

simple....we moved on..... finding that the bible COMMENDS polygamy..... blesses marriage with multiple wifes...


Gods word commends getting married JUST for companionship, comfort and LOVE.. and PLEASURE....

Gods word tells us that Mary & JOSEPH were commanded to get married...


You declare they had no children,

That pretty much distroys your entire lie...... Just by one single eXample.......

Which is based on a total lie to begin with..

Lies lies lies......... is all lies.........

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Edited February 12, 2011 by ReXteryalizerUri

[havok579257]

dude either pick one thing to talk about or stop posting. your method of posting is just going to be ignored because your not typing in comprehensible english. a language we all speak.

also.... you are not clifford franklin.... speak in the first person.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='ReXteryalizerUri' timestamp='1297475794' post='2211545']
[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]it has nothing to do with HATE

to provide a single place in the entire bible CONDEMNING marriage.... with no intent to produce children.....


[color="#0000FF"]Why is this important to you?[/color]


simple....we moved on..... finding that the bible COMMENDS polygamy..... blesses marriage with multiple wifes...

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Why is this important to you?[/color]



Gods word commends getting married JUST for companionship, comfort and LOVE.. and PLEASURE....

Gods word tells us that Mary & JOSEPH were commanded to get married...


[color="#0000FF"]And they did.[/color]

You declare they had no children,


[color="#0000FF"]They had Jesus.[/color]


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[ReXteryalizerUri]

[size="4"][b]They had Jesus ?

Would you not rather respect Gods word of truth to say instead

Jesus had them. ........... .He created THEM... not vice versa

[color="#800080"]Mary & Joseph OBEYED....Gods commandment ...... [/color][/b]

[b][color="#800080"]They Were married .... WERE husband and wife..... [/color][color="#000080"][u]Good for them...........[/u][/color][/b]

[b]They believed...the Angel and did not live in fear.....and worry concerning the child.. [/b]



[b]THATS IT [u]Generations can call her HAPPY..... BLESSED....[/u][/b]

[b][color="#ff0000"]The greek word[/color] is Greek BLESSED .... 3106 μακαρι[/b][b]́[/b][b]ζω makarizo[/b][b]̄[/b][b] = [color="#8b0000"][u]fortunate: - , counted as happy.[/u][/color][/b]

[b]~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~--BLESSED -~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_--~_---~____----~~~~~~~[/b]


[/size][size="4"][b] Mary was,,,,nothing more than the Obedient servant ...and having the child....
[/b]

[/size][size="4"][b]in Luke 1:38 MARY SAID../ ....."I am the Lord's servant," She knew what she was
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[size="4"]She did not teach catholicsim.......nor does the bible......... in any way at all...... [/size][/b]

[size="4"][b][color="#800080"]Jesus was not at all { IN ANY WAY } interested in the Glory of praise [/color][/b]

[b][color="#800080"]& identifying himself with mary [/color][/b]

[b][color="#800080"]Jesus[u] [/u][color="#8b0000"][u]is never seen declaring to people[/u] [/color].. mary was his mother / [/color][/b]

[b] his own birth is something the Gospel tells of then moves on to more important things//[/b]

[b]Like His death & ressurection.....[/b][b] [/b]

[b]~~~ Jesus refused to EVER once Call mary as His mother... through the whole bible..[/b]

[/size][size="4"][color="#a0522d"][b]HE calls MARY as.....WOMAN......

.........WOMAN.......jesus spake to a Woman of Samaria.......H[/b][/color][/size][size="4"][b][color="#a0522d"]e again called her WOMAN.......

...Jesus spake to a adulterous woman....He addresses her as [/color][/b][b][color="#a0522d"]WOMAN[/color][/b]

[b][color="#ff0000"]He speaks to mary He calls her also as WOMAN[/color][color="#9932cc"]..............He does not call her mother or mary or [/color][/b][b][color="#9932cc"]queen or holy lady or savior.... or mediator.....[/color][/b]

[b][color="#9932cc"][/color][/b][b]Jesus denied & refused to ever Acknowledge and ACCEPT Mary as His being HIS real..... [/b][b]mother...[/b][b] [/b]

[b][color="#808000"]Jesus was not interested in promoting the worshiping and paganistic adoration of a [/color][/b][/size][size="4"][b][color="#808000"]WOMAN....[color="#000000"][u]who did nothing of her own.. power[/u] [/color]In conceiving a child.
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[b]~~ She was married.... obeying the word of God..... went through the pregnancy....Good[/b]

[b]Jesus denied & refused to ever Acknowledge and ACCEPT Mary as His being HIS real....[/b][b]mother...[/b]

[color="#8b0000"][b]In MT 12:47 TheY said LOOK Jesus thy mother and thy BRETHREN are HERE standing [/b][/color]

[b][color="#8b0000"]..... seeking to speak to thee. [/color][/b]

[/size][size="4"][b][color="#8b0000"]Jesus answered them saYing........ Who is my mother ?
[/color][/b]
[b][color="#8b0000"]who are my brothers ? Where ? WHo who is my mother.. ? [/color][/b]

[color="#8b0000"][b]The greek word for WHO is my mother is Greek 5101 τι[/b][b]́[/b][b]ς Tis [/b][/color]
[b][color="#8b0000"][/color][/b]

[/size][size="4"][u][b][color="#8b0000"]meaning who, which or what how In what manner why.[/color][/b]
[/u]
[b][color="#8b0000"]How is this my mother..... ? WHY is this my mother ? WHo ? [/color][/b][b][color="#8b0000"][/color][/b]

[b][color="#8b0000"]WHERE ........ Which one is my mother ? [/color][/b]

[b][color="#8b0000"]49 And he stretched forth his hand towards his disciples, and [/color][/b][b][color="#8b0000"]said, Behold, LOOK .[/color][/b][/size][size="4"][b][color="#ff0000"]

LOOK ...pointing....

... here they are....... THESE people here are my mother and my BRETHREN! [/color][/b]

[b][color="#8b0000"]:35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.[/color][/b]


[/size][size="4"][b][color="#8b0000"][color="#000000"]reX is like mary[/color]...........all believers are BLESSED..


AL BELIEVERS HAVE .Jesus

[color="#000000"]Jesus [/color][/color][color="#000000"]has no mother, no father no begening of Days...No ending... [/color][/b]

[b][color="#000000"]no geneology no family.... on earth.[/color][/b]

[b][color="#000000"]he made that clear VERY VERY clear in his word....[/color][/b]

[b][color="#000000"]The crowd was Jesus mother [/color][/b]

[b][color="#000000"]Mary was not HIS REAL mother......[/color][/b]

[b][color="#000000"]God has no mother...........Jesus eXisted before Abraham........ Jesus said Abraham had [/color][/b][b][color="#000000"]seen Him...[/color][/b]

[b][color="#000000"]Why do caTholics[color="#ff0000"] pretend mary is [color="#008000"]something she[/color] [/color]is Not, in Gods word..[/color][/b]

[color="#8b0000"][b]Again we see the bible is [color="#008000"]not a catholic book[/color]..[/b][/color]

[b][color="#8b0000"]T[/color][/b][b][color="#8b0000"]he bible says nothing more about Mary............after she received her salvation on the day of pentecost..[/color][/b]

[b][color="#8b0000"][/color][/b][b][color="#8b0000"][color="#4b0082"][u]Catholics need to write a catholic bible............li[/u][color="#0000ff"]ke the muslims have[/color][/color],,[/color][/b]
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[b][color="#000000"][/color][/b][size="4"]bec the bible is not even close to catholicism...[/size][/color][/b]

[b][color="#000000"][/color][/b][size="4"][b][color="#8b0000"]its THE TOTAL OPPOSITE...........[/color][/b] [/size]

Edited February 12, 2011 by ReXteryalizerUri

[ReXteryalizerUri]

[font="Comic Sans MS"][b][u]
[size="5"]Jesus loved Mary MUCH [/size][/u][size="5"][color="#800080"]much more [/color][u][color="#000080"]than any of us [/color][color="#a0522d"]could ever imagine ....[/color][/u][/size][/b][/font]

[size="5"][font="Arial Black"][b].But .... Jesus never promoted her part or her servant~hood as something BEYOND human [/b][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][color="#800080"][b]Or as a miraculous or spectacular action she has power to produce... or a purposed part [/b][/color][/font]

[/size][font="Arial Black"][size="5"][color="#800080"][b]in...[/b][/color]

[/size][/font][font="Arial Black"][size="5"][b]she had nothing to do with creating a human life . Nothing to do with anything concerning [/b]

[b]teaching the Gospel, [/b]

[b]or ~ Writing a single dot in the entire Bible....[/b]

[b]mary could not even provide salvation for....a single person...... NOR for her own SOUL.[/b]


[b]Joh 6:42 And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we [/b]

[b]know? [/b]

[/size][/font][color="#0000ff"][font="Arial Black"][size="5"][color="#000000"][b]how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven? [/b]

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[b]Very true, [color="#006400"]of course Jesus had Mary and Joseph. [/color][/b]

[/size][color="#006400"][size="5"][b]We all have opportunity to HAVE accept.... Jesus .. [/b]

[b]eXactly like mary and Joseph were able to have Jesus .[/b]

[b] Mary ^& Joseph did not give birth to Jesus .....by / or DUE to their marriage.......[/b]

[b]Mary was pregnant .......before God eVer even commanded them to Get married....... [/b]

[/size][/color][/font][/color][color="#0000ff"][font="Arial Black"][size="5"][b][color="#006400"]Durring marys pregnancy , She became married.... & Joseph made her as His wife...

[/color]When we start SAYING

Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps. { Breasts } which thou hast sucked. [/b]

[b]Jesus SAYS ~~ BUT Rather, blessed ~ are they that hear the word of God, and keep it. [/b]

[b]Mary & JOSEPH KEPT Gods word..[/b]

[b]The WORD of God was commanding .... to GET MARRIED....[/b]

[b]and become HUSBAND AND WIFE ../[/b]

[/size][size="5"][color="#ff0000"][b]They obeyed..... and were blessed, because they OBEYED..........[/b]

[b]The glory mary felt was not from suckling Jesus as a child & passing Him Through Her whomb..[/b]

[b]She was far too humble FOR that pagan garbage...[/b]

[b]She was so far from being a catholic she would vomit in her grave.... if she was aware of the [/b]

[b]lies Rome has set ablaze [/b]

[b]Concerning her & the Gospel..[/b]

[b]But for her obedience and faith........ she was blessed...... forever....[/b]

[b]All believers have that same EXACT BLESSING........... by obedience[/b]

[b]ALL believers JESUS DECLARED are the SAME..as HIS MOTHER....[/b]

[b]Jesus corrected this paganistic,,,.....mentality 2 times in His word.[/b]

[b]after that , God stops mentioning mary........ she lived with Her son....and was burried,,[/b]

[/color][b]They even have history books...saying that her tomb was found ..[/b]

[/size][/font][/color][b][font="Arial Black"][size="5"][color="#0000ff"]it was not till [/color][/size][/font][font="Arial Black"][size="5"][color="#0000ff"]SIX HUNDRED years after all the evidence was scrambled & faded
the roman tic Gregory of Tours ( on the Feast of Mary's [/color][/size][/font][/b]

[font="Arial Black"][color="#0000ff"][size="5"][b]And in 700 AD Ps.-Modestus of Jerusalem did these people begin the LIES about mary..[/b]



[b]On May 1, 1946, Pope Pius XII, asked all bishops in the world whether they thought this belief in the assumption of Mary into heaven should be defined as a proposition of faith,[/b]

[b]Almost all the bishops replied in the affirmative.[/b]

[b]This is where catholic DOCTRINE COME FROM[/b]

[/size][/color][/font][b][font="Arial Black"][size="5"][color="#0000ff"]On November 1, 1950, the Feast of All Saints, Pope Pius XII declared as a dogma revealed by God that "Mary, [/color][/size][/font][size="5"][font="Arial Black"][color="#0000ff"]the immaculate perpetually Virgin Mother of God, after the completion of her earthly life, was assumed body and soul into the glory of Heaven".
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[/font][font="Comic Sans MS"]This is how catholicsim WORKS....... they take a VOTE...[font="Arial Black"][u].. on an opinion POLL...[/u][/font][/b][/font]

[font="Arial Black"][b][u]throw it around for a few years ,,SEE how the world handles it ........[/u][/b][/font]

[font="Comic Sans MS"][b]Then POOF !....[/b][/font]

[/size][font="Comic Sans MS"][size="5"][b]A new catholic LIE....
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[Mark of the Cross]

[quote name='ReXteryalizerUri' timestamp='1297474389' post='2211533']
[b][font="Arial Black"][size="3"]Pls lets stop acting like little 2 yr olds....[/size][/font][/b]

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[size="4"]Okay lets! When you stop, I'll stop.

First of all, most if not all your accusations are untrue. If you would like to present them in a logical and normal grammatically correct way we will be happy to address them. If you continue to write incoherent nonsense, which just appears to be you trying to justify some abnormal life style, I will continue to amuse myself at your expense.
Deal?[/size]

[Lil Red]

[quote name='Mark of the Cross' timestamp='1297496412' post='2211627']
[size="4"]Okay lets! When you stop, I'll stop.

First of all, most if not all your accusations are untrue. If you would like to present them in a logical and normal grammatically correct way we will be happy to address them. If you continue to write incoherent nonsense, which just appears to be you trying to justify some abnormal life style, I will continue to amuse myself at your expense.
Deal?[/size]
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oh Mark, you're great.

[ReXteryalizerUri]

[font="Arial Black"][size="5"][color="#2f4f4f"]Birth control has been BANNED by Rome and considered bad..

But When we Go to the BIBLE we find ...

Gods command is upon Mary & Joseph to get Married.

Joseph took Mary as His wife....

[u]but CATHOLICS[/u]........ [u]wil[/u]l [u]declare tha[/u]t [u]they never, [/u][u]EVER pro~created[/u].... [u]chidren... ![/u]

[color="#8b0000"]The fact is,~ ACORDING to Gods word....... they lived as husband and wife.

[/color][u]Were married~[/u] as God had asked them to do....

[u]Were a family[/u]..~...and had Sons and daughters....

[u]The bible records MARY having CHILDREN.....[/u]

[u]With a family....~[/u]

[color="#0000ff"][u]In Gal 1:18

Paul mentioned having seen~ not only Peter,

But also seeing James the Lord's brother in Jerusalem.

James was in Jerusalem, with PETER........... & PAUL is declaring Peter By name...... with James the Lord's brother .

[color="#000000"] James is called Jesus Blood Brother....not a cousin......[b] [/b][b]Greek 4773 [/b][b]συγγενής [/b][b]suggenēs ~~ [/b][b]cousin......[/b]

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[color="#006400"][b]Greek 80 [/b][b]α[/b][b]̓[/b][b]δελφο[/b][b]́[/b][b]ς [/b][b]adelphos [/b][b] From (the [i]womb[/i]); ~~~a [i]brother[/i] [/b]

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Paul also declared that we all have power to lead about a a wife, as well as other apostles.

and as the [u]brother [/u]OF THE LORD,

{ [u]James the Lord's[/u][u] brother [/u] +_

[color="#a0522d"][u]MARYs[/u] ~ SON is, JAMES....../ Jesus Brother ......

Notice the scripture /.

John 2:12 After this, He went down to Capernaum, He and His [u]MOTHER [/u], and His [u]brothers [/u][u]and His disciples[/u]



Here ,,,........The bible is seperating HIS DISCIPLES.....from

[u]MARY and his real brothers....[/u] ~~~~~~~~~~~

Again Joh 7:3..... Jesus was at HOME In his HOME Town..

His BROTHERS, Said to Him { Jesus }~ Go, to Judaea, so that thy disciples also may see the works that thou doest.

[u]Again~ [/u]the bible is seperating ....

[/color][color="#800080"]........ The BROTHERS of JESUS, living in [u]his home town[/u] { Galilee} . ...... From his [u]disciples.... [/u]



[u]Calling them BROTHERS in HIS HOME town at their HOME......[/u]

Mat 13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called [u]Mary[/u]?

And [u]his Brothers [/u], [u]James[/u], and [u]Joses[/u], and [u]Simon,[/u]

and [u]Judas[/u]? 56 And [u]his sisters[/u], are they not all with us? .



Right then & there ! ....~~~~ ! *

JESUS Declared that these people were FROM HIS OWN HOUSE-HOLD .



Saying 57. A prophet is not without honour, except in his own country [u]and IN ~ [/u][u]HIS OWN HOME.[/u]


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These are the eXact words of Jesus..

[color="#ff0000"]Why do caTholics deny Jesus > ?

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[color="#9acd32"][color="#808000"]Joseph, MARY and The Brothers , James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? And sisters,
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JESUS is saying HIMSELF these people ARE HIS FAMILY the Greek word used to discribe



Jesus says these people relaTion to him are PEOPLE from his OWN HOME.

[u][color="#000000"]..........οικία

House Greek 3614 .οἰκία oikia = Meaning a residence - an abode a family ( : - home, house (-hold).

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MarK 6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon?

and are not his sisters here with us? ~



( SALOME was a sister }



[color="#0000ff"]This is his FAMILY[color="#4b0082"].....Jesus called them People [/color]from his Home....& family..
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[u]Why do you refuse, to~ the same ? [/u]

MR 15:40 tells of MARY the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome;



[color="#000000"][i]Jesus Christ [/i]was not the[i] [/i][u]ONLY CHILD[/u][i] [/i][u]of His[/u][i] mother,[/i]

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Let us FIRST turn to the PROPHECY of Jesus christ.....

From the PROPHET David in Psalm 69:, -.....

Concerning Christ. In this scripture we read,

Prophecy of Jesus life.....



[color="#006400"] They gave me also gall for my meat; and in my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink.

[b] For they persecute him { Jesus } whom thou hast smitten; [/b]

[b]and they talk because of the grief of the Wounds thou has [/b][b]pierced[/b][b] ( killed[/b]

This Hebrew word discribing Jesus in Psalm 69 is [b]Hebrew [/b][b]2491 [/b]חלל châlâl ...... khaw-lawl'

MEANING pierced ( to death); - kill, slain (man), X slew, (deadly)



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The peophecy is of Jesus

It declared in the Psalm 96

"I am become a stranger unto MY BRETHREN, and

an alien unto MY MOTHER'S CHILDREN."



[u][color="#000000"]Mary is recording having CHILDREN in the prophecy of Psalms 96..

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The NEW Testament referes to this Psalm 96 prophecy



[b]IN Joh 2:17[/b] And his disciples remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath eaten me up.

Psa 69:9 For the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up

[color="#000000"]Mat 27:35 that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.
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Psa 22:16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.



[b]Psa 22:18[/b] They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

[size="6"][b]The prophecy is of Jesus [/b]

It declared in the Psalm 96

"I am become a stranger unto MY BRETHREN, and

an alien unto MY MOTHER'S CHILDREN."

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[color="#ff00ff"]Mary has children,,..... and they are recorded by name.... in Gods word.....

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Catholics & Muslims we really feel..... have been lying to you....





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Edited February 13, 2011 by ReXteryalizerUri

[dairygirl4u2c]

Question: "Did Jesus have brothers and sisters (siblings)?"

Answer: Jesus’ brothers are mentioned in several Bible verses. Matthew 12:46, Luke 8:19, and Mark 3:31 say that Jesus’ mother and brothers came to see Him. The Bible tells us that Jesus had four brothers: James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas (Matthew 13:55). The Bible also tells us that Jesus had sisters, but they are not named or numbered (Matthew 13:56). In John 7:1-10, His brothers go on to the festival while Jesus stays behind. In Acts 1:14, His brothers and mother are described as praying with the disciples. Galatians 1:19 mentions that James was Jesus’ brother. The most natural conclusion of these passages is to interpret that Jesus had actual blood half-siblings.

Some Roman Catholics claim that these “brothers” were actually Jesus’ cousins. However, in each instance, the specific Greek word for “brother” is used. While the word can refer to other relatives, its normal and literal meaning is a physical brother. There was a Greek word for “cousin,” and it was not used. Further, if they were Jesus’ cousins, why would they so often be described as being with Mary, Jesus’ mother? There is nothing in the context of His mother and brothers coming to see Him that even hints that they were anyone other than His literal, blood-related, half-brothers.

A second Roman Catholic argument is that Jesus’ brothers and sisters were the children of Joseph from a previous marriage. An entire theory of Joseph's being significantly older than Mary, having been previously married, having multiple children, and then being widowed before marrying Mary is invented without any biblical basis. The problem with this is that the Bible does not even hint that Joseph was married or had children before he married Mary. If Joseph had at least six children before he married Mary, why are they not mentioned in Joseph and Mary’s trip to Bethlehem (Luke 2:4-7) or their trip to Egypt (Matthew 2:13-15) or their trip back to Nazareth (Matthew 2:20-23)?

[dairygirl4u2c]

[quote]The Gospel was written predominantly in Greek. In Matthew 13:55, one of the several verses referring to Jesus' siblings, the Greek words used here are adelphoi and adelphai. The first word literally means 'brother'; the second word literally means 'sister'. They can mean no other word. There is a Greek word that can mean either 'brothers/sisters' OR 'cousins'. However, none of the authors of the Gospel used that word. They used the words that literally mean 'brothers' and 'sisters'. Why? Because they meant what they said: Jesus really did have physical half-brothers and half-sisters.[/quote]

[quote]It was written in Greek, but it is worth noting that the only Gospel writer who spoke Greek as a native language was Luke, and what we are getting in a Greek translation for words originally spoken in Aramaic, which has no word for "cousin", so Jesus' "brothers" were actually some other close male relation.

The sentences from the above link that describe the translation of Hebrew to the Greek Septuagint 200 years before the NT, where Jewish translators routinely translated the inclusive Hebrew 'brother' to the exclusive Greek 'brother' undermines the recent anti Catholic arguement.


taken from the link .......

"In the Septuagint the Hebrew word that includes both brothers and cousins was translated as adelphos, which in Greek usually has the narrow meaning that the English "brother" has. Unlike Hebrew or Aramaic, Greek has a separate word for cousin, anepsios, but the translators of the Septuagint used adelphos, even for true cousins.

If Jewish translators of the Old testament 200 years before the NT translated this way, it is to be expected Jews of the NT would do the same.

Here is also a note. When jesus was on the cross he asked the aposlte John to care for his mother. If james the just was a literal son of Mary then James would have been the one Jesus asked to care for Mary when he died. Mary is never mentioned as having other children.



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Edited February 13, 2011 by dairygirl4u2c

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