dairygirl4u2c Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 i dont know, that might be a reference to something other than putting it in the ground? i've heard lots of catholics say that you may do that. and, not that it's right, but they used to pour it down the drain after mass when i used to go, if the ministers didn't want to drink it, to a pipe that went into the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafka Posted November 29, 2010 Author Share Posted November 29, 2010 [quote name='dairygirl4u2c' timestamp='1290990900' post='2189747'] i dont know, that might be a reference to something other than putting it in the ground? i've heard lots of catholics say that you may do that. and, not that it's right, but they used to pour it down the drain after mass when i used to go, if the ministers didn't want to drink it, to a pipe that went into the ground. [/quote] no all the consecrated species/appearances must be consumed. They were committing at least an objective mortal sin of sacrilege if that is in fact what they were doing. Usually when the paten and chalice is cleaned with water, this is poured down a drain into the ground. So if a very small particle or small drop of consecrated species of bread or wine is left over it gets diluted by the water, loses its appearance of bread or wine (if is has not already), and so Jesus is no longer present. But burying a consecrated host or pouring down consecrated species of wine down a drain into the ground is gravely disorderd since Jesus is present. It is an objective mortal sin of sacrilege. Here is another quote: “It is strictly prohibited to pour the Precious Blood into the ground or into the sacrarium” This Holy and Living Sacrifice, USCCB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 [quote name='dairygirl4u2c' timestamp='1290990900' post='2189747'] i dont know, that might be a reference to something other than putting it in the ground? i've heard lots of catholics say that you may do that. and, not that it's right, but they used to pour it down the drain after mass when i used to go, if the ministers didn't want to drink it, to a pipe that went into the ground. [/quote] Lots of "Catholics" say contraception is moral. They're wrong. So were the "ministers," if in fact they were Catholic priests. Burying blessed scapulars, medals, rosaries, etc. is acceptable, if done reverently. Not the Body and Blood of Christ. ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafka Posted November 29, 2010 Author Share Posted November 29, 2010 [quote name='Sternhauser' timestamp='1290995314' post='2189766'] Lots of "Catholics" say contraception is moral. They're wrong. So were the "ministers," if in fact they were Catholic priests. Burying blessed scapulars, medals, rosaries, etc. is acceptable, if done reverently. Not the Body and Blood of Christ. ~Sternhauser [/quote] This is sort of thing and the fact that it is fairly common at least in the West makes my blood boil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orans Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 [quote name='dairygirl4u2c' timestamp='1290990900' post='2189747'] i dont know, that might be a reference to something other than putting it in the ground? i've heard lots of catholics say that you may do that. and, not that it's right, but they used to pour it down the drain after mass when i used to go, if the ministers didn't want to drink it, to a pipe that went into the ground. [/quote] [size="3"][size="2"]In our Diocese we have very few priests and many lay minister of communion. Our Bishop instructs us that the proper way of disposing[/size][/size][size="3"][size="2"] of a Host if necessary (other than consuming it) is to dissolve it in water.[/size][/size] [size="3"][size="2"]So you can put the Host into a glass with water and leave it there until it disintegrates/dissolves. This takes between a few hours to a few days, depending on the consistency of the bread. At that point it is no longer bread, which means there is no Ëucharistic presence anymore. [/size][/size] [size="2"]Then you can pour the water and all into the ground without problem.[/size] [size="4"] [/size] [size="2"]Sometimes things happen for instance at a hospital or with elderly people, when you have given someone communion and the Host for some reason cannot be taken in after all (I don't need to get into details here). You can't consume it yourself because it is not safe, so you have to dispose of the Host. [/size] [size="2"]Hope this helps .[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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