This Man Is A Hero.

[havok579257]

[quote name='dominicansoul' timestamp='1289701229' post='2187022']
what does this "hero" propose airlines should do in order to keep flights safe from terrorists/terrorism?

unfortunately, i believe terrorists can tuck explosives into their bums...so, although I hate the thought of being groped (and I won't be, because I NEVER fly these dayz...,) I don't have any idea how airlines are supposed to protect the millions who fly from terrorism and terrorists....this was bound to happen...

how is this man a hero? Only because he went against TSA agents, and they just happen to be a government entity? to see things in a fair light, no one really has the right to fly...it's a privilege, and if you can't accept the terms of a private airline company, then you really don't have anything to complain about...
[/quote]


i agree its a privliage to fly and for the most part if you can't except there rules, you should not be able to use there services, but some rules are unexceptable such as:

1. forcing a women with nipple rings to take plyers and remove said rings before flight
2. forcing an 18 year old student to remove her pantaloons
3. forcing an old man in his late 60's/early 70's to stand in the middle of the airport with his pantaloons at his ankles in front of everyone
4. fondeling the private areas of small children
5. having male tsa agents fondle and grope the private areas of small female children
6. having opposite sex pat downs
7. taking pictures of people where you can see there naked bodies and saving said pictures for tsa agents to look at afterwards

[dominicansoul]

i think we should boycott all flights. this will teach those airlines and government security agents~!!!

NONE OF THIS IS ACCEPTABLE. MY SOLUTION IS NOT TO FLY!!! MAKE THESE IDIOTS PAY FOR THEIR GROSS SECURITY MEASURES...

If people choose to fly, then, be ready to face these terrible consequences...it doesn't seem fair, but like i said, no one is forcing anyone to fly...

[sixpence]

[quote name='havok579257' timestamp='1289766601' post='2187143']
i agree its a privliage to fly and for the most part if you can't except there rules, you should not be able to use there services, but some rules are unexceptable such as:

1. forcing a women with nipple rings to take plyers and remove said rings before flight
2. forcing an 18 year old student to remove her pantaloons
3. forcing an old man in his late 60's/early 70's to stand in the middle of the airport with his pantaloons at his ankles in front of everyone
4. fondeling the private areas of small children
5. having male tsa agents fondle and grope the private areas of small female children
6. having opposite sex pat downs
7. taking pictures of people where you can see there naked bodies and saving said pictures for tsa agents to look at afterwards
[/quote]

1. may i ask where this information is from?
2. there is no reason to remove body piercings... these types of metals do not set off metal detectors... no one could possibly know you had them unless you told them or they strip-searched you... (i know this because of my ear piercings )
3. may i ask where the original info is from? I have heard that these scans a blurred out....

[Winchester]

You wouldn't be upset if your body wasn't in such hideous shape.

[Tally Marx]

If being "safe" means that at some point I am going to have to live in A Brave New World sometime in 1984 along with the Shadow Children, then I would rather not be safe. I don't believe in surrendering my dignity, privacy, morality, and liberty for the sake of some perceived safety. And I strongly disagree with the government's "You can do this but..." mentality. "You can own this beautiful property in the country, but you have to pay a view tax." "You can get support from us for your hospital, but you have to provide abortions there." "You can send your child to public school,but they have to take sex ed at age five." "You can fly on this plane, but we must be able to search you in whatever way we wish." It's just a form of coercion.

It is easy to say, "Well, then, do not fly!" until your grandfather or daughter or cousin gets cancer and must be taken regularly to a hospital out of state for treatments, or until the only job you are qualified to get requires flying.
Saying "No" to flying, is indeed a sacrifice, and if you can and do make it then that is great. But not everyone can, and it doesn't mean that even everyone should, or that that is all they should do. Sometimes, people need to actually speak out. Americans have been having their liberties taken from them for years under the cloak of "just being politically correct" or "just making everyone safe" and they need to be shown that, because many of them have forgotten that "liberties may be endangered by the abuses of liberties as well as the abuses of power" and don't realize that that is exactly what is happening.

I wouldn't say, "If you don't want to surrender your morality, then don't fly." anymore than I would say, "If you don't want to surrender your morality, then don't have an abortion."
We don't just refrain from having an abortion, we also speak out against it. I think the same thing is happening here. It takes courage to speak out more than it takes to refrain, and someone has to do it. That's why people are viewing this guy as a hero.

[Sarah147]

I actually came across a photo online of a real backscatter x-ray. And yes, it makes you naked, yet with the look of duct tape over your areas. It's disgusting that they want to see that much! But I'd prefer that over being checked physically. I don't want any physical contact.

What's this country coming to?

[Winchester]

"We're not going to police the people getting on the giant bombs flying over your house."

[Lilllabettt]

[b] The terrorists have won:[/b]

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/Lilllabettt/tsa.jpg[/img]

notice the habit.
and the wheel chair.

Edited November 16, 2010 by Lilllabettt

[Winchester]

All they wanted was crippled nuns to get frisked?


Does this mean they'll quit blowing poo up?

Edited November 16, 2010 by Winchester

[Sternhauser]

[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1289869021' post='2187317']
"We're not going to police the people getting on the giant bombs flying over your house."
[/quote]

" " " " " " " " getting into giant bombs driving in front of your house."

Thank you.


Winchester, I'm happy not living my life in a nice, safe, gubbmint issued, bomb-proof, gas-proof, sharp-pokey-thing proof Lexan hamster ball.

~Sternhauser

Edited November 16, 2010 by Sternhauser

[Winchester]

[quote name='Sternhauser' timestamp='1289871969' post='2187336']


Winchester, I'm happy not living my life in a nice, safe, gubbmint issued, bomb-proof, gas-proof, sharp-pokey-thing proof Lexan hamster ball.

~Sternhauser
[/quote]
Where did you move to, because you've been speaking with an unpleasant disposition about your imposed hamster ball since you got here.

Did you move to the edge?

[Klaudi87]

[quote name='Tally Marx' timestamp='1289866955' post='2187314']
If being "safe" means that at some point I am going to have to live in A Brave New World sometime in 1984 along with the Shadow Children, then I would rather not be safe. I don't believe in surrendering my dignity, privacy, morality, and liberty for the sake of some perceived safety. And I strongly disagree with the government's "You can do this but..." mentality. "You can own this beautiful property in the country, but you have to pay a view tax." "You can get support from us for your hospital, but you have to provide abortions there." "You can send your child to public school,but they have to take sex ed at age five." "You can fly on this plane, but we must be able to search you in whatever way we wish." It's just a form of coercion.

It is easy to say, "Well, then, do not fly!" until your grandfather or daughter or cousin gets cancer and must be taken regularly to a hospital out of state for treatments, or until the only job you are qualified to get requires flying.
Saying "No" to flying, is indeed a sacrifice, and if you can and do make it then that is great. But not everyone can, and it doesn't mean that even everyone should, or that that is all they should do. Sometimes, people need to actually speak out. Americans have been having their liberties taken from them for years under the cloak of "just being politically correct" or "just making everyone safe" and they need to be shown that, because many of them have forgotten that "liberties may be endangered by the abuses of liberties as well as the abuses of power" and don't realize that that is exactly what is happening.

I wouldn't say, "If you don't want to surrender your morality, then don't fly." anymore than I would say, "If you don't want to surrender your morality, then don't have an abortion."
We don't just refrain from having an abortion, we also speak out against it. I think the same thing is happening here. It takes courage to speak out more than it takes to refrain, and someone has to do it. That's why people are viewing this guy as a hero.
[/quote]

I agree.....This is rather scary as I will be flying in 3 wks as it is when wearing a skirt you get searched but nothing inappropriate or to this extent.

[Sternhauser]

[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1289873274' post='2187341']
Where did you move to, because you've been speaking with an unpleasant disposition about your imposed hamster ball since you got here.

Did you move to the edge?
[/quote]

Winchester, I have to admit, I have no idea what you just said.

~Sternhauser

[Winchester]

[quote name='Sternhauser' timestamp='1289873988' post='2187345']
Winchester, I have to admit, I have no idea what you just said.

~Sternhauser
[/quote]
Of course you don't. How could you have possibly heard me?

[Sternhauser]

[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1289874216' post='2187347']
Of course you don't. How could you have possibly heard me?
[/quote]

It's parallax-free Lexan. But your words were still distorted, somehow. Please rephrase in the form of a question.

~Sternhauser

Edited November 16, 2010 by Sternhauser