Happy Veterans Day!

[Totally Franciscan]

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[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/Jointcolors.jpg[/img]

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[/quote] Now that puts me in the mood for Veteran's Day! Awesome! Thanks to my Dad, Grandfather, Uncle - all deceased, sad to say.

[Micah]

Right on guys, happy Veteran's Day. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/like.gif[/img]

[ardillacid]

[quote name='kafka' timestamp='1289525474' post='2186577']
prophetic.


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[sidemunch88]

[quote name='Sternhauser' timestamp='1289511983' post='2186549']
A letter from an Iraq War veteran to Laurence Vance. Nov. 11, 2010.

"I am a Veteran of the Iraq War and wanted to write to thank YOU for [url="http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance216.html"]your article[/url] this morning. My libertarian awakening began in Iraq as I considered the insanity of what we were doing there, and was later nurtured by Dr. Paul, Lew, yourself, and all the other great people associated with the LRC. War is a horror that permanently damages everyone involved in some way, solves nothing, and erodes the liberty of the very people who blindly support it. Few soldiers want war, but when war comes, they'll go rather than face trial and imprisonment. The average man on the battlefield cares nothing for whatever "cause" is being fought for. A man may join the military for "his country", but he never fights for it. He fights to try to keep himself and his buddies alive, and to accomplish whatever objectives the state has set, so he might escape the prison of the battlefield. Soldiers don't fight for their country, and they certainly don't fight for freedom. Soldiers fight only for the state. To shrink government and secure liberty, we must end this worldwide military empire. To end war, we must end the state. Today, people will wave their flags and shake the hands of vets while never realizing that every man in the military is a nail in the coffin of what I'm told was once a free country. I just thank the creator that I never directly harmed anyone during my time in service to the state, and hope the libertarian ideas that I try to spread make up for the time I spent as a cog in the war machine.
For Peace, Jer" [url="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/69294.html"]http://www.lewrockwe...ives/69294.html[/url]

~Sternhauser
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It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protester the freedom to abuse and burn that flag.

[kafka]

wOOt!!!

[CatherineM]

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My Guys

[dominicansoul]

For my dad, who fought in WWII...

...he doesn't think much of himself when Veteran's Day rolls around...all he can think of are his buddies that never came back home..........he tells me they are the real Veterans.......the true heroes...

..to this day he's not forgotten them, and he gets emotional just thinking about them...

...well, in my eyes, my dad is a hero in his own right.......


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[img]http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/04/28/fallen.soldier.jpg[/img]

[img]http://warstoriesandveteranshistories.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/long_khanh_fallen1.jpg?w=450&h=331[/img]

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[img]http://www.lilripple.com/reflection.jpg[/img]

[Sternhauser]

[quote name='pvtmiller' timestamp='1289535452' post='2186614']
It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protester the freedom to abuse and burn that flag.


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That is funny. Or would be, if people didn't believe it.

The soldier fights for the State: that thing which poses the most threat to freedom. The Iraqis and Afghanis didn't pose any threat to my freedoms. They still don't. The PATRIOT Act does. The Grenadans and Panamanians didn't pose any threat to my freedom. The "War On Drugs" does. (It has caused the crime rate to skyrocket, just like the first drug prohibition during the 1920's, when that drug was alcohol.) The Viet Cong didn't pose any threat to my freedom. But LBJ enslaved a lot of kids into fighting for the State, violating their liberty, and for a few thousand of them, their lives. The Somalians didn't pose a threat to my liberty. The North Koreans didn't pose a threat to my liberty. Nor did the Germans and Japanese in WWII. But psychopaths who believe it is moral to firebomb innocent civilians? They do pose a threat to my liberty. The Japanese State had overextended itself by 1942. Amazing how long a few "patriotic" soldiers with a few rice balls and stripper clips of ammo can hold on to a bird-dung encrusted rock called Iwo Jima. Imagine how long Americans could have done it, if the Japanese had miraculously been able to put an LCT on the mainland. The German State signed its own death warrant when its soldiers invaded Russian land.

So Pvtmiller, despite the bravado and well-meaning emotion behind that statement? It's bunk. You don't protect Americans from anything. Just a fact.

James Garner knew what he was talking about. He fought to "keep us free" from the invading North Koreans and Chinese in the Korean War who were going to steal our freedoms in large duffel bags.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i00Jiiak0UE"]James Garner on War. [/url]Skip to 2:30.

~Sternhauser

Edited November 13, 2010 by Sternhauser

[MissScripture]

[quote name='kafka' timestamp='1289525474' post='2186577']
prophetic.


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That's why I voted for him for Sheriff!

[Vincent Vega]

It's scary how people can start to believe things if they repeat it to themselves enough times. Scarier still is how one begins to believe things that others repeat, until he reminds himself that simply because a thing is repeated does not make it true.

[Semper Catholic]

[quote name='Sternhauser' timestamp='1289611628' post='2186789']
That is funny. Or would be, if people didn't believe it.

The soldier fights for the State: that thing which poses the most threat to freedom. The Iraqis and Afghanis didn't pose any threat to my freedoms. They still don't. The PATRIOT Act does. The Grenadans and Panamanians didn't pose any threat to my freedom. The "War On Drugs" does. (It has caused the crime rate to skyrocket, just like the first drug prohibition during the 1920's, when that drug was alcohol.) The Viet Cong didn't pose any threat to my freedom. But LBJ enslaved a lot of kids into fighting for the State, violating their liberty, and for a few thousand of them, their lives. The Somalians didn't pose a threat to my liberty. The North Koreans didn't pose a threat to my liberty. Nor did the Germans and Japanese in WWII. But psychopaths who believe it is moral to firebomb innocent civilians? They do pose a threat to my liberty. The Japanese State had overextended itself by 1942. Amazing how long a few "patriotic" soldiers with a few rice balls and stripper clips of ammo can hold on to a bird-dung encrusted rock called Iwo Jima. Imagine how long Americans could have done it, if the Japanese had miraculously been able to put an LCT on the mainland. The German State signed its own death warrant when its soldiers invaded Russian land.

So Pvtmiller, despite the bravado and well-meaning emotion behind that statement? It's bunk. You don't protect Americans from anything. Just a fact.

James Garner knew what he was talking about. He fought to "keep us free" from the invading North Koreans and Chinese in the Korean War who were going to steal our freedoms in large duffel bags.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i00Jiiak0UE"]James Garner on War. [/url]Skip to 2:30.

~Sternhauser
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[img]http://youchewpoop.com/wiki/images/7/70/Cool_story_bro.jpg[/img]

Also S/F

[sidemunch88]

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[img]http://youchewpoop.com/wiki/images/7/70/Cool_story_bro.jpg[/img]

Also S/F
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I like that picture a lot

[Sternhauser]

Wouldn't the "LOL Wut" pear have made for a more thoughtful response?

~Sternhauser

Edited November 16, 2010 by Sternhauser

[Winchester]

James Garner knows. James Garner is a flooping oracle.

[Semper Catholic]

[quote name='Sternhauser' timestamp='1289874144' post='2187346']
Wouldn't the "LOL Wut" pear have made for a more thoughtful response?

~Sternhauser
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The "LOL Wut" pear implies I care to have all that explained. Cool Story Bro dismisses it as annoying tripe.