Lilllabettt Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 if Our Lady is being "succinct" here, I hardly know it. She seems rather wordy to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debra Little Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 [quote name='kafka' timestamp='1289619315' post='2186823'] Here is a section of Pope Benedicts new Apostolic Exhortation, Verbum Domini, released two days ago, concerning private revelations: "Consequently the Synod pointed to the need to "help the faithful to distinguish the word of God from private revelations"[44] whose role "is not to 'complete' Christ's definitive revelation, but to help live more fully by it in a certain period of history".[45] The value of private revelations is essentially different from that of the one public revelation: the latter demands faith; in it God himself speaks to us through human words and the mediation of the living community of the Church. The criterion for judging the truth of a private revelation is its orientation to Christ himself. If it leads us away from him, then it certainly does not come from the Holy Spirit, who guides us more deeply into the Gospel, and not away from it. Private revelation is an aid to this faith, and it demonstrates its credibility precisely because it refers back to the one public revelation. Ecclesiastical approval of a private revelation essentially means that its message contains nothing contrary to faith and morals; it is licit to make it public and the faithful are authorized to give to it their prudent adhesion. A private revelation can introduce new emphases, give rise to new forms of piety, or deepen older ones. It can have a certain prophetic character (cf. 1 Th 5:19-21) and can be a valuable aid for better understanding and living the Gospel at a certain time; consequently it should not be treated lightly. It is a help which is proffered, but its use is not obligatory. In any event, it must be a matter of nourishing faith, hope and love, which are for everyone the permanent path of salvation.[46]" so while we are analyzing these messages we have to decide if they are orientated toward Jesus Christ who is the sum and culmination of Divine Revelation. If the messages contain teachings contrary to the teachings of faith and morals of Divine Revelation: Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture, then it is a false private revelation. This is the test. [/quote] If people are helped by believing in the message of Medjugorie then they should continue. For myself there are plenty of apparitions approved by the Church that I don't need anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debra Little Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 [quote name='Debra Little' timestamp='1298678942' post='2215672'] If people are helped by believing in the message of Medjugorie then they should continue. For myself there are plenty of apparitions approved by the Church that I don't need anything else. [/quote] When I think of[font="arial, verdana, sans-serif"][color="#595959"][size=4] [/size][/color][/font][color=#595959][font=arial, verdana, sans-serif][size=2][url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?app=forums&module=forums§ion=findpost&pid=2215672"]Medjugorje[/url] I think of all the conversions that have taken place there. Should not that tell us something?[/size][/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1catholic Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Debra Little' timestamp='1298685772' post='2215701'] When I think of[font="arial, verdana, sans-serif"] [/font][color="#595959"][font="arial, verdana, sans-serif"][size="2"][url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?app=forums&module=forums§ion=findpost&pid=2215672"]Medjugorje[/url] I think of all the conversions that have taken place there. Should not that tell us something?[/size][/font][/color] [/quote] And all the descent and disobedience. http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2011/02/11/medjugorje-is-generating-what-the-devil-loves-most-disobedience/ Edited February 26, 2011 by 1catholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debra Little Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 [quote name='1catholic' timestamp='1298735860' post='2215786'] And all the descent and disobedience. [url="http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2011/02/11/medjugorje-is-generating-what-the-devil-loves-most-disobedience/"]http://www.catholich...t-disobedience/[/url] [/quote] Thanks so much for posting this. I didn't really understand all the hoopla surrounding this and still don't but what matters is obeying the authorities God has set over us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1catholic Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 [quote name='Debra Little' timestamp='1298740058' post='2215792'] Thanks so much for posting this. I didn't really understand all the hoopla surrounding this and still don't but what matters is obeying the authorities God has set over us. [/quote] no prob :D my mom emailed it to me lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafka Posted February 27, 2011 Author Share Posted February 27, 2011 here is an excellent scholarly website with among many other things, vast treasury of quotes from Church authorities, clearing up various misunderstandings and rumors concerning Medjugorje: http://www.medjugorje-apologia.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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