Is A "do-Not-Resuscitate" Order Ever Ethical?

[cappie]

ZE10110308 - 2010-11-03
Permalink: http://www.zenit.org/article-30838?l=english
Catholics and "Do-Not-Resuscitate" Orders

The Moral Principles Behind Its Ethical Use

WASHINGTON, D.C., NOV. 3, 2010 (Zenit.org).- Here is a question on bioethics asked by a ZENIT reader and answered by the fellows of the Culture of Life Foundation.
Q: Is a "do-not-resuscitate" order ever ethical? Shouldn't a patient in an emergency situation always be resuscitated, so that the family can evaluate with some time and care what are the limits of ordinary and extraordinary care (and is that distinction used anymore)? -- K.T., Kansas City, USA.

William E. May offers the following response:

A: The Church does not explicitly address the morality of a "do-not-resuscitate order," but it still uses the distinction between "ordinary" or "proportionate" (=morally obligatory) and "extraordinary" or "disproportionate" (=morally not obligatory) treatments. Moreover the Church clearly teaches that it is morally wrong to impose on anyone the obligation to accept treatments that impose undue burdens on him, his family, and the wider community or to accept treatments that do not offer reasonable benefits or are useless or futile. This is the teaching found both in the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith's May, 1980 Vatican Declaration on Euthanasia ("Iura et Bona"), Part IV on "Due Proportion in the Use of Remedies," and in the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops' Ethical and Religious Directives for Catholic Health Care Facilities.[1]

Before examining how the distinction between "ordinary/proportionate" and "extraordinary/disproportionate" treatment relates to the morality of a "do not resuscitate" order, we need to know the purpose of such an order, one intimately linked to the application of cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR).

Cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) and "do-not-resuscitate" directives

CPR can be administered both in the hospital for patients suffering cardiac arrest or outside a hospital by rescue crews called to save the lives of persons suffering cardiac arrest, and rescue teams routinely give CPR immediately. CPR very often saves lives, and persons whose lives have been saved by it and their families are then grateful to have their lives extended.

But one can ask whether CPR, despite its good effect of saving a cardiac victim's life, is always the morally right thing to do and in the true best interests of the person. A DNR is an advance directive, legally recognized, giving a person or, if not competent, his health care proxy, authority to prevent CPR or, if it has begun, to withdraw it.

"extraordinary" or "disproportionate"

Both the Vatican Declaration on Euthanasia and the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (see footnote 1) explicitly affirm that a person or, if the person is incompetent, his proxy health care decision-maker can rightly refuse treatments that do not offer a reasonable hope of benefit or entail an excessive burden, or impose excessive expense on the family or the community.

Excessive burdensomeness is perhaps the major criterion for determining whether a proposed treatment is "extraordinary/disproportionate." Excessive burdensomeness is the genus, and species of such burdensomeness include the treatment's riskiness, its bad side-effects and bad consequences on the life of the person [e.g. it may so disable a person he is no longer able to do his job and support his family; he may have to move to a different climate, leaving home, friends, and so forth]; the excessive pain of the treatment, and excessive expense that would imperil the economic security of the patient, the patient's family, and/or the community. Withholding or withdrawing such treatments is not euthanasia or a choice to kill oneself or another for merciful reasons. One does not judge a life excessively burdensome, one judges a treatment excessively burdensome. In making this judgment the "physical and moral resources of the patient" -- his or her "quality of life" in that sense -- can rightly be taken into account.

Another criterion helping us judge whether a given treatment, for a given patient, is "extraordinary" or "disproportionate" is the criterion of usefulness. In the Catholic tradition a means has been judged useless in the strict sense if the benefits it promises are nil or useless in a wider sense if the benefits conferred are insignificant in comparison to the burdens it imposes.

A moral principle

This principle can be expressed as follows: "A 'do-not-resuscitate' order is morally permissible if one can judge that CPR is excessively burdensome for this patient, taking into account his situation and his physical and moral resources, or that CPR imposes excessive expense on the family or community."

CPR can be administered either in a hospital to a patient who suffers cardiac arrest or outside a hospital by a rescue team to a person who stops breathing because of cardiac arrest. Examples illustrating how the moral principle justifying a "do-not-resuscitate order" in a hospital or outside a hospital will now be given.

The hospital scenario

Consider the following: a quadruple amputee who must live in a bucket and needs others to feed him, clothe him, and do everything for him; a person suffering from multiple sclerosis, blind, fed by nasogastric tubes with his conditioning worsening; persons in the final stages of pancreatic cancer. With others,[2] I think that he or his proxy could refuse CPR and insist that he not be resuscitated because of the terrible burdens he would then be made to suffer as a result from his underlying maladies and pathologies.

I also think that a senile hospital patient suffering from advanced cancer, but not imminently in danger of dying although in need of periodic chemotherapy or radiation therapy who then contracts pneumonia and then suffers cardiac arrest could also refuse CPR and post a "do-not-resuscitate" order to accept death by pneumonia rather than be resuscitated, rather than, as a result of the CPR and having the pneumonia cleared up by antibiotics, be made to suffer from advanced cancer.

The "not-in-the-hospital" or home scenario

Analogous situations can occur in the home when a person suffers cardiac arrest and a rescue squad is summoned that routinely administers CPR because by doing so they correctly believe that they can prevent the person from dying if the procedure is successful. If the person suffering cardiac arrest is in very bad shape and in need of constant care at home, it seems to me that, taking into account his state and physical and moral resources the moral principle justifying a "do-not-resuscitate order" is applicable.

It is morally obligatory, as the magisterium teaches,[3] to provide by tubal means food and hydration to persons said to be in the "vegetative state" in order to sustain their lives. Such provision of food and hydration is not a treatment but is part of the ordinary care that ought to be given to sick and debilitated non-dying persons. However, a person is under no obligation to allow himself to be put in this condition. Knowing that if a person is deprived of oxygen (breathable air for more than, say 5 or 10 minutes), it seems to me that a person at home and not in the hospital (or one in the hospital as well) could ask for a "do-not-resuscitate" order if more than 10 minutes had elapsed since he had been able to breathe air or get oxygen to his brain in order to avoid being placed in this stage of existence. I suggest this as an example when the principle formulated is applicable, but I may certainly be mistaken.

Conclusion

I hope that these reflections answer the question raised. I acknowledge that advocates of euthanasia use "do-not-resuscitate" orders as a means for securing the death of the patient, but such orders of themselves can be used for morally bad purposes or morally good ones.

Notes

[1] The Vatican Declaration on Euthanasia thus says that a "correct judgment" about treatments to be used can be made "by studying the type of treatment, its degree of complexity or risk, its cost and the possibility of using it, and comparing these elements with the results that can be expected, taking into account the state of the sick person and his or her physical and moral resources...one cannot impose on anyone the obligation to have recourse to a technique which is already in use but which carries a risk or is burdensome."

Directive 56 of the USCCB's Ethical and Religious Directives for Catholic Health Care Facilities, referring to the Vatican Declaration, identifies "proportionate" or "ordinary" means as those offering "a reasonable hope of benefit and do not entail an excessive burden or impose excessive expense of the family or the community." Directive 57 states: "A person may forego extraordinary or disproportionate means of preserving life. Disproportionate means are those that in the patient"s judgment do not offer a reasonable hope of recovery or entail an excessive burden or impose excessive expense on the family or the community."

[2] See Pope John Paul II, Address of March 20, 2004 to International Federation of Catholic Medical Associations on Feeding and Hydrating Persons in the "Vegetative" State. http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/speeches/2004/march/documents/hf_jp-ii_spe_20040320_congress-fiamc_en.html.

See also Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, "Responses to Certain Questions of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops Concerning Artificial Nutrition and Hydration," accessible at http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20070801_risposte-usa_en.html.

[3] See Pope John Paul II, Address of March 20, 2004 to International Federation of Catholic Medical Associations on Feeding and Hydrating Persons in the "Vegetative" State. http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/speeches/2004/march/documents/hf_jp-ii_spe_20040320_congress-fiamc_en.html.

See also Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, "Responses to Certain Questions of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops Concerning Artificial Nutrition and Hydration," accessible at http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20070801_risposte-usa_en.html.


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William E. May, is a Senior Fellow at the Culture of Life Foundation and retired Michael J. McGivney Professor of Moral Theology at the John Paul II Institute for Studies on Marriage and Family at The Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C.

[Readers may send questions regarding bioethics to bioethics@zenit.org. The text should include your initials, your city and your state, province or country. The fellows at the Culture of Life Foundation will answer a select number of the questions that arrive.]

[WarriorForJesus]

[quote name='cappie' timestamp='1288853545' post='2184667']
ZE10110308 - 2010-11-03
Permalink: [url="http://www.zenit.org/article-30838?l=english"]http://www.zenit.org...30838?l=english[/url]
Catholics and "Do-Not-Resuscitate" Orders

The Moral Principles Behind Its Ethical Use

WASHINGTON, D.C., NOV. 3, 2010 (Zenit.org).- Here is a question on bioethics asked by a ZENIT reader and answered by the fellows of the Culture of Life Foundation.
Q: Is a "do-not-resuscitate" order ever ethical? Shouldn't a patient in an emergency situation always be resuscitated, so that the family can evaluate with some time and care what are the limits of ordinary and extraordinary care (and is that distinction used anymore)? -- K.T., Kansas City, USA.

William E. May offers the following response:

A: The Church does not explicitly address the morality of a "do-not-resuscitate order," but it still uses the distinction between "ordinary" or "proportionate" (=morally obligatory) and "extraordinary" or "disproportionate" (=morally not obligatory) treatments. Moreover the Church clearly teaches that it is morally wrong to impose on anyone the obligation to accept treatments that impose undue burdens on him, his family, and the wider community or to accept treatments that do not offer reasonable benefits or are useless or futile. This is the teaching found both in the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith's May, 1980 Vatican Declaration on Euthanasia ("Iura et Bona"), Part IV on "Due Proportion in the Use of Remedies," and in the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops' Ethical and Religious Directives for Catholic Health Care Facilities.[1]

Before examining how the distinction between "ordinary/proportionate" and "extraordinary/disproportionate" treatment relates to the morality of a "do not resuscitate" order, we need to know the purpose of such an order, one intimately linked to the application of cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR).

Cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) and "do-not-resuscitate" directives

CPR can be administered both in the hospital for patients suffering cardiac arrest or outside a hospital by rescue crews called to save the lives of persons suffering cardiac arrest, and rescue teams routinely give CPR immediately. CPR very often saves lives, and persons whose lives have been saved by it and their families are then grateful to have their lives extended.

But one can ask whether CPR, despite its good effect of saving a cardiac victim's life, is always the morally right thing to do and in the true best interests of the person. A DNR is an advance directive, legally recognized, giving a person or, if not competent, his health care proxy, authority to prevent CPR or, if it has begun, to withdraw it.

"extraordinary" or "disproportionate"

Both the Vatican Declaration on Euthanasia and the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (see footnote 1) explicitly affirm that a person or, if the person is incompetent, his proxy health care decision-maker can rightly refuse treatments that do not offer a reasonable hope of benefit or entail an excessive burden, or impose excessive expense on the family or the community.

Excessive burdensomeness is perhaps the major criterion for determining whether a proposed treatment is "extraordinary/disproportionate." Excessive burdensomeness is the genus, and species of such burdensomeness include the treatment's riskiness, its bad side-effects and bad consequences on the life of the person [e.g. it may so disable a person he is no longer able to do his job and support his family; he may have to move to a different climate, leaving home, friends, and so forth]; the excessive pain of the treatment, and excessive expense that would imperil the economic security of the patient, the patient's family, and/or the community. Withholding or withdrawing such treatments is not euthanasia or a choice to kill oneself or another for merciful reasons. One does not judge a life excessively burdensome, one judges a treatment excessively burdensome. In making this judgment the "physical and moral resources of the patient" -- his or her "quality of life" in that sense -- can rightly be taken into account.

Another criterion helping us judge whether a given treatment, for a given patient, is "extraordinary" or "disproportionate" is the criterion of usefulness. In the Catholic tradition a means has been judged useless in the strict sense if the benefits it promises are nil or useless in a wider sense if the benefits conferred are insignificant in comparison to the burdens it imposes.

A moral principle

This principle can be expressed as follows: "A 'do-not-resuscitate' order is morally permissible if one can judge that CPR is excessively burdensome for this patient, taking into account his situation and his physical and moral resources, or that CPR imposes excessive expense on the family or community."

CPR can be administered either in a hospital to a patient who suffers cardiac arrest or outside a hospital by a rescue team to a person who stops breathing because of cardiac arrest. Examples illustrating how the moral principle justifying a "do-not-resuscitate order" in a hospital or outside a hospital will now be given.

The hospital scenario

Consider the following: a quadruple amputee who must live in a bucket and needs others to feed him, clothe him, and do everything for him; a person suffering from multiple sclerosis, blind, fed by nasogastric tubes with his conditioning worsening; persons in the final stages of pancreatic cancer. With others,[2] I think that he or his proxy could refuse CPR and insist that he not be resuscitated because of the terrible burdens he would then be made to suffer as a result from his underlying maladies and pathologies.

I also think that a senile hospital patient suffering from advanced cancer, but not imminently in danger of dying although in need of periodic chemotherapy or radiation therapy who then contracts pneumonia and then suffers cardiac arrest could also refuse CPR and post a "do-not-resuscitate" order to accept death by pneumonia rather than be resuscitated, rather than, as a result of the CPR and having the pneumonia cleared up by antibiotics, be made to suffer from advanced cancer.

The "not-in-the-hospital" or home scenario

Analogous situations can occur in the home when a person suffers cardiac arrest and a rescue squad is summoned that routinely administers CPR because by doing so they correctly believe that they can prevent the person from dying if the procedure is successful. If the person suffering cardiac arrest is in very bad shape and in need of constant care at home, it seems to me that, taking into account his state and physical and moral resources the moral principle justifying a "do-not-resuscitate order" is applicable.

It is morally obligatory, as the magisterium teaches,[3] to provide by tubal means food and hydration to persons said to be in the "vegetative state" in order to sustain their lives. Such provision of food and hydration is not a treatment but is part of the ordinary care that ought to be given to sick and debilitated non-dying persons. However, a person is under no obligation to allow himself to be put in this condition. Knowing that if a person is deprived of oxygen (breathable air for more than, say 5 or 10 minutes), it seems to me that a person at home and not in the hospital (or one in the hospital as well) could ask for a "do-not-resuscitate" order if more than 10 minutes had elapsed since he had been able to breathe air or get oxygen to his brain in order to avoid being placed in this stage of existence. I suggest this as an example when the principle formulated is applicable, but I may certainly be mistaken.

Conclusion

I hope that these reflections answer the question raised. I acknowledge that advocates of euthanasia use "do-not-resuscitate" orders as a means for securing the death of the patient, but such orders of themselves can be used for morally bad purposes or morally good ones.

Notes

[1] The Vatican Declaration on Euthanasia thus says that a "correct judgment" about treatments to be used can be made "by studying the type of treatment, its degree of complexity or risk, its cost and the possibility of using it, and comparing these elements with the results that can be expected, taking into account the state of the sick person and his or her physical and moral resources...one cannot impose on anyone the obligation to have recourse to a technique which is already in use but which carries a risk or is burdensome."

Directive 56 of the USCCB's Ethical and Religious Directives for Catholic Health Care Facilities, referring to the Vatican Declaration, identifies "proportionate" or "ordinary" means as those offering "a reasonable hope of benefit and do not entail an excessive burden or impose excessive expense of the family or the community." Directive 57 states: "A person may forego extraordinary or disproportionate means of preserving life. Disproportionate means are those that in the patient"s judgment do not offer a reasonable hope of recovery or entail an excessive burden or impose excessive expense on the family or the community."

[2] See Pope John Paul II, Address of March 20, 2004 to International Federation of Catholic Medical Associations on Feeding and Hydrating Persons in the "Vegetative" State. [url="http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/speeches/2004/march/documents/hf_jp-ii_spe_20040320_congress-fiamc_en.html."]http://www.vatican.v...-fiamc_en.html.[/url]

See also Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, "Responses to Certain Questions of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops Concerning Artificial Nutrition and Hydration," accessible at [url="http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20070801_risposte-usa_en.html."]http://www.vatican.v...te-usa_en.html.[/url]

[3] See Pope John Paul II, Address of March 20, 2004 to International Federation of Catholic Medical Associations on Feeding and Hydrating Persons in the "Vegetative" State. [url="http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/speeches/2004/march/documents/hf_jp-ii_spe_20040320_congress-fiamc_en.html."]http://www.vatican.v...-fiamc_en.html.[/url]

See also Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, "Responses to Certain Questions of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops Concerning Artificial Nutrition and Hydration," accessible at [url="http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20070801_risposte-usa_en.html."]http://www.vatican.v...te-usa_en.html.[/url]


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William E. May, is a Senior Fellow at the Culture of Life Foundation and retired Michael J. McGivney Professor of Moral Theology at the John Paul II Institute for Studies on Marriage and Family at The Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C.

[Readers may send questions regarding bioethics to bioethics@zenit.org. The text should include your initials, your city and your state, province or country. The fellows at the Culture of Life Foundation will answer a select number of the questions that arrive.]
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[color="#800080"]When I was working in a Catholic hospital, I noticed that the DNR orders were given a long time BEFORE the actual need for resuscitation was ever needed. My mother had one. She was riddled with cancer. It had come back with a vengence. In fact, 6 months before she died, she refused anymore chemotherapy. She had been on it for quite a number of years and she was tired of taking it. She died at home. There was no feeding tube inserted, for the cancer had eaten away her stomach. It took a week or so after she couldn't even eat one pea for her to die. I never realized how much I still miss her. It has been 18 years.

All DNR orders are not given at the time of the need, but before they are needed. DNR has nothing to do with feeding tubes and intravenous fluids.

Janice[/color]

[Winchester]

If you need resuscitation, you're dead.

Leaving someone in a state of dead is okay.

[Paddington]

I wouldn't want to be left in a state of dead.

[Winchester]

[quote name='Paddington' timestamp='1288875515' post='2184686']
I wouldn't want to be left in a state of dead.
[/quote]
It's going to happen.

[Paddington]

[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1288876468' post='2184693']
It's going to happen.
[/quote]

No you!

[Mr.Cat]

[u][i]In my personal philosophy and opinion[/i][/u]:
[b]1.[/b] Persons ought to be guaranteed sufficient access to adequate care.
[b]2.[/b] Patients ought to be guaranteed the right to choose and deny care.
[b]3.[/b] The state and care providers ought to be obligated and compelled to preserve life and well-being.

When there is doubt of what a patient wants, the assumption ought to be to preserve life and well-being. If a patient chooses to deny care, [i]that care cannot be given[/i], [i][u]unless[/u][/i] their choice is reasonably suspect of incompetence... Serious consideration of what is doubtful or suspicious ought to have some kind of review process that competent and relevant care providers, family, and advocates can participate in; moreover when the patient is unable or unwilling to cooperate.

Edited November 4, 2010 by Mr Cat

[dominicansoul]

where do I sign one of those?

WAIT, what if I just get something stuck in my throat and I need the heimlich or something??? Does that mean no one would come to my help???

[Winchester]

[quote name='Mr Cat' timestamp='1288877915' post='2184697']
[u][i]In my personal philosophy and opinion[/i][/u]:
[b]1.[/b] Persons ought to be guaranteed sufficient access to adequate care.
[b]2.[/b] Patients ought to be guaranteed the right to choose and deny care.
[b]3.[/b] The state and care providers ought to be obligated and compelled to preserve life and well-being.

[/quote]
5. Doctors should accept working for free.

[Winchester]

[quote name='dominicansoul' timestamp='1288878210' post='2184698']
where do I sign one of those?

WAIT, what if I just get something stuck in my throat and I need the heimlich or something??? Does that mean no one would come to my help???
[/quote]
If all you need is the heimlich, dnr does not apply.

[Mr.Cat]

[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1288878257' post='2184699']5. Doctors should accept working for free.[/quote]Though I had to click "[i]view it anyway[/i]" to read your post...

You do realize that the United States government percentage wise pays MORE in its revenue than most other socialized medical systems but hardly anything or anyone is covered? You do realize that percentage wise of our gross domestic product we devote more of our economy to medicine, but we don't have as many doctors or hospitals as other socialized medical systems? Do you also realize that we don't even have universalized medicine, meaning [b]NOT[/b] everyone can receive medicine? Do you realize that in most other nations with socialized medicine people frequent clinics and hospitals more frequently than Americans, even with decent insurance and coverage. You realize that the overall cost of an MRI scan in Japan is about $100 and in the United States costs about $1,500... even though its EXACTLY the same? You do realize that the United States doesn't even pay doctors well, other socialized states pay them better...

So basically your telling me that I should be somehow proud that I live in a system that pays MORE for LESS!?!? I should be proud that I live in a system that rather than empowering and liberating care providers to do their jobs, you promote a system that disables and bars them from doing their jobs!? Really???

Edited November 4, 2010 by Mr Cat

[Winchester]

[quote name='Mr Cat' timestamp='1288879160' post='2184707']
Though I had to click "[i]view it anyway[/i]" to read your post...

You do realize that the United States government percentage wise pays MORE in its revenue than most other socialized medical systems but hardly anything or anyone is covered? You do realize that percentage wise of our gross domestic product we devote more of our economy to medicine, but we don't have as many doctors or hospitals as other socialized medical systems? Do you also realize that we don't even have universalized medicine, meaning everyone can receive medicine? Do you realize that in most other nations with socialized medicine people frequent clinics and hospitals more frequently than Americans, even with decent insurance and coverage. You realize that the overall cost of an MRI scan in Japan is about $100 and in the United States costs about $1,500... even though its EXACTLY the same? You do realize that the United States doesn't even pay doctors well, other socialized states pay them better...

So basically your telling me that I should be somehow proud that I live in a system that pays MORE for LESS!?!? I should be proud that I live in a system that rather than empowering and liberating care providers to do their jobs, you promote a system that disables and bars them from doing their jobs!? Really???
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No. I'm saying I win because you clicked view it anyway.

[Mr.Cat]

[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1288879324' post='2184709']No. I'm saying I win because you clicked view it anyway.[/quote] Your right, I did click it...

You win this round!

[MissScripture]

[quote name='Mr Cat' timestamp='1288879160' post='2184707']
Though I had to click "[i]view it anyway[/i]" to read your post...

You do realize that the United States government percentage wise pays MORE in its revenue than most other socialized medical systems but hardly anything or anyone is covered? You do realize that percentage wise of our gross domestic product we devote more of our economy to medicine, but we don't have as many doctors or hospitals as other socialized medical systems? Do you also realize that we don't even have universalized medicine, meaning [b]NOT[/b] everyone can receive medicine? Do you realize that in most other nations with socialized medicine people frequent clinics and hospitals more frequently than Americans, even with decent insurance and coverage. You realize that the overall cost of an MRI scan in Japan is about $100 and in the United States costs about $1,500... even though its EXACTLY the same? You do realize that the United States doesn't even pay doctors well, other socialized states pay them better...

So basically your telling me that I should be somehow proud that I live in a system that pays MORE for LESS!?!? I should be proud that I live in a system that rather than empowering and liberating care providers to do their jobs, you promote a system that disables and bars them from doing their jobs!? Really???
[/quote]
Do you realize that this thread isn't about insurance vs socialized medicine?

[Mr.Cat]

[quote name='MissScripture' timestamp='1288901208' post='2184876']Do you realize that this thread isn't about insurance vs socialized medicine?[/quote] You take my rant seriously? Wow...

But, I am going to go with, so?

Edited November 4, 2010 by Mr Cat