Stephen Colbert Preaches Redemptive Suffering On The View

[HollyWilliams]

I did not know that Stephen Colbert was Catholic. That is interesting.

[Anastasia13]

[quote name='HollyWilliams' timestamp='1293430100' post='2194598']
I did not know that Stephen Colbert was Catholic. That is interesting.
[/quote]
He was his daughter's catechist, and I heard he taught Sunday school until he was really busy with work.

This is a neat article that talks about his faith.
http://www.parade.com/articles/editions/2007/edition_09-23-2007/AStephen_Colbert

"I like damaged people,” says Stephen Colbert. “And I am certainly damaged.” He wasn't joking, but he is devout in his faith.

Edited December 27, 2010 by Light and Truth

[Sternhauser]

[quote name='Light and Truth' timestamp='1293455139' post='2194623']
He was his daughter's catechist, and I heard he taught Sunday school until he was really busy with work.

This is a neat article that talks about his faith.
[url="http://www.parade.com/articles/editions/2007/edition_09-23-2007/AStephen_Colbert"]http://www.parade.co...Stephen_Colbert[/url]

"I like damaged people,” says Stephen Colbert. “And I am certainly damaged.” He wasn't joking, but he is devout in his faith.
[/quote]

I wish he could show that devotion a little more by not using obscenity as humor in front of an audience of millions.

~Sternhauser

[Anastasia13]

[quote name='Sternhauser' timestamp='1293465696' post='2194634']
I wish he could show that devotion a little more by not using obscenity as humor in front of an audience of millions.

~Sternhauser
[/quote]
I see in some of his recent work parts of myself that I have not let other people see because I was afraid of what people would think and because it didn't fit the very conservative idea I had of what a Christian should be like. I thought that if that part of my was still there years after coming to the Lord, then maybe I never really was saved and maybe if I can't just change things about myself like that, then maybe I can't be saved, and then why should I even really bother with the whole Christianity thing. During this time of my life, I saw this guy online who did fit part of me I was afraid of and who could still say that he loves Jesus and is Catholic, and I thought maybe I can say I love Jesus too and there is hope for me. I'm sort of glad that he does not totally avoid it.

Edited December 28, 2010 by Light and Truth

[MithLuin]

Recognizing that all Catholics are still sinners (unless of course you are already dead) is an important part of our faith. Because, well, 'those without sin' include none of us. But calling sin good is also not really a good idea. I am glad that some good can come of something that in and of itself is not exactly exemplary, but....yes. You can still call yourself Catholic and say you love Jesus even though you are not perfect. Thank God! I do sometimes wonder what Jesus thinks of my 'love' since it is so poor (especially compared to His - eep!), but I do not doubt his love for me despite my glaring flaws. I'm sorry you went through a time where you had to wrestle with that.

[rachael]

[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1293116976' post='2194116']
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what about the rest of us first responders who get paid nothing (volunteer) or very little to do the same job? the state governments are taking away many of our benefits. i.e. cutting safety measures, paid staff, etc. i'm just asking.

[Socrates]

[quote name='Light and Truth' timestamp='1293455139' post='2194623']
He was his daughter's catechist, and I heard he taught Sunday school until he was really busy with work.

This is a neat article that talks about his faith.
http://www.parade.com/articles/editions/2007/edition_09-23-2007/AStephen_Colbert

"I like damaged people,” says Stephen Colbert. “And I am certainly damaged.” He wasn't joking, but he is devout in his faith.
[/quote]
I read another article in which Colbert (out of "character") said that he was Catholic, but "thought for himself," rather than blindly accept whatever the Church teaches.
Sounds like yet another liberal "cafeteria Catholic," which sadly is what commonly passes for "devout Catholic" in America these days.

[Ice_nine]

[quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1293657151' post='2194968']
I read another article in which Colbert (out of "character") said that he was Catholic, but "thought for himself," rather than blindly accept whatever the Church teaches.
Sounds like yet another liberal "cafeteria Catholic," which sadly is what commonly passes for "devout Catholic" in America these days.
[/quote]

Um, do you [b]blindly[/b] accept whatever the Church teaches? Maybe a better phrasing would have been "I think with the Church" but I could see that being interpreted by a secular audience as "I'm a mindless zombie sheep that blindly accepts church teaching." So I dunno, especially without the article in question, but you do appear to have a tendency to judge a person's Catholic . . .ness(?) without giving a thorough investment.

I disagree with many of your posts. You infer a lot of ideas that, in my opinion, are not the perfect reflection of Catholicism that you seem to think they are. I'm not gonna call you less Catholic or other subtle pejoratives because, from the little I know of you, you seem to be "doing the best with what you got." Sure you seem a little stubborn and supercilious at times but hey, we all got flaws. I believe the intention of your heart is to remain tenaciously faithful to Mother Church. I can appreciate that. I just wish you weren't so hasty to assume how Catholic someone is using a rather silly rubric to do so.

I don't have it all together either. That's fer sure. No offense or hard feelings intended

[ThePenciledOne]

[quote name='Ice_nine' timestamp='1293673739' post='2195069']
Um, do you [b]blindly[/b] accept whatever the Church teaches? Maybe a better phrasing would have been "I think with the Church" but I could see that being interpreted by a secular audience as "I'm a mindless zombie sheep that blindly accepts church teaching." So I dunno, especially without the article in question, but you do appear to have a tendency to judge a person's Catholic . . .ness(?) without giving a thorough investment.

I disagree with many of your posts. You infer a lot of ideas that, in my opinion, are not the perfect reflection of Catholicism that you seem to think they are. I'm not gonna call you less Catholic or other subtle pejoratives because, from the little I know of you, you seem to be "doing the best with what you got." Sure you seem a little stubborn and supercilious at times but hey, we all got flaws. I believe the intention of your heart is to remain tenaciously faithful to Mother Church. I can appreciate that. I just wish you weren't so hasty to assume how Catholic someone is using a rather silly rubric to do so.

I don't have it all together either. That's fer sure. No offense or hard feelings intended
[/quote]

I like this guy.

[Anastasia13]

[quote name='ThePenciledOne' timestamp='1293674307' post='2195076']
I like this guy.


[/quote]
Me too.

When Colbert Interviewed N.T. Wright, one of the Protestant seminarians from another website I was on was pleasantly surprised at how educated Colbert was on religion. While probably not nearly as much as some priests, Colbert demonstrated what seemed to be an above average knowledge of theology. I did not see this particular episode, but that is what I was told.

[Jesus_lol]

Seems like a lot of people who dont really know that much about Colbert are judging how catholic he is based on a sentence or two out of context and their preconvictions that a non-conservative celebrity could never measure up to their standards of morality.

[Socrates]

[quote name='Ice_nine' timestamp='1293673739' post='2195069']
Um, do you [b]blindly[/b] accept whatever the Church teaches? Maybe a better phrasing would have been "I think with the Church" but I could see that being interpreted by a secular audience as "I'm a mindless zombie sheep that blindly accepts church teaching."[/quote]
Actually, I'm a mindless zombie jackass that blindly accepts church teaching.

An albino monk planted a chip in my brain and all my thoughts and actions are controlled via a joystick in a vast computer control-room in a huge sinister vault beneath the Vatican.


[quote]So I dunno, especially without the article in question, but you do appear to have a tendency to judge a person's Catholic . . .ness(?) without giving a thorough investment.[/quote]
Unfortunately, I don't have the article at hand, which I read over a year ago, and don't remember his exact words, but it had the typical "cafeteria Catholic" rhetoric about being Catholic, but "thinking for oneself." This is almost always used by folks who disagree with the Church on various moral issues (almost invariably related to sex). Why else the pressing need to distinguish oneself from those Catholics who apparently [i]don't[/i] "think for themselves"? (You know, those dim-witted folks who are always faithful to the teachings of the Magisterium.)

As Colbert routinely mocks Catholic orthodoxy as part of his lame-brained "conservative" comic persona, I don't think I'm stretching too much here.

Of course this pick-and-choose cafeteria mentality is hardly unique to Colbert, or even the political Left, but infects most American "Catholics" today. (There was an issue with Sean Hannity a few years ago.)

[quote]I disagree with many of your posts. You infer a lot of ideas that, in my opinion, are not the perfect reflection of Catholicism that you seem to think they are. I'm not gonna call you less Catholic or other subtle pejoratives because, from the little I know of you, you seem to be "doing the best with what you got."[/quote]
Yeah, I'm just a simple-minded lug doing the best with what limited intellectual resources I have, lacking the advanced facilities of all you rilly smurt people on teh interwebz.

Since Jesus Christ Almighty isn't a regular poster on this phorum, I don't think anybody's posts here are a perfect reflection of Catholicism.
However, while people who disagree with me regularly accuse or insinuate that posts are somehow unorthodox or contrary to Catholic teaching, I've yet to see anyone prove otherwise.

[quote] Sure you seem a little stubborn and supercilious at times but hey, we all got flaws. I believe the intention of your heart is to remain tenaciously faithful to Mother Church. I can appreciate that. I just wish you weren't so hasty to assume how Catholic someone is using a rather silly rubric to do so.

I don't have it all together either. That's fer sure. No offense or hard feelings intended [/quote]
None taken. Carry on.

[Ice_nine]

[quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1293751666' post='2195292']
Actually, I'm a mindless zombie jackass that blindly accepts church teaching.

An albino monk planted a chip in my brain and all my thoughts and actions are controlled via a joystick in a vast computer control-room in a huge sinister vault beneath the Vatican.[/quote]

the hell?

[quote]
Unfortunately, I don't have the article at hand, which I read over a year ago, and don't remember his exact words, but it had the typical "cafeteria Catholic" rhetoric about being Catholic, but "thinking for oneself." This is almost always used by folks who disagree with the Church on various moral issues (almost invariably related to sex). Why else the pressing need to distinguish oneself from those Catholics who apparently [i]don't[/i] "think for themselves"? (You know, those dim-witted folks who are always faithful to the teachings of the Magisterium.)[/quote]

It was probably to distinguish himself from fundamentalists and hard right evangelicals that he satirizes. Not Catholics imo.

[quote]Yeah, I'm just a simple-minded lug doing the best with what limited intellectual resources I have, lacking the advanced facilities of all you rilly smurt people on teh interwebz.[/quote]

Yes that is EXACTLY what I was saying. My goodness I go out of my way to assure you that I don't look down upon you and that I don't think I'm a better Catholic than you or any of that croutons yet you insist upon pulling insults out of mid-air. Hell, I was even admiring some of your good qualities. Do you have a persecution-complex?

[quote]
Since Jesus Christ Almighty isn't a regular poster on this phorum, I don't think anybody's posts here are a perfect reflection of Catholicism.[/quote]

Well then you seem to think yours are about as close as one can reasonably get.

[quote]However, while people who disagree with me regularly accuse or insinuate that posts are somehow unorthodox or contrary to Catholic teaching, I've yet to see anyone prove otherwise. [/quote]

Proof is irrelevant when you won't listen.

Edited December 31, 2010 by Ice_nine

[Adrestia]

[quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1293751666' post='2195292']
As Colbert routinely mocks Catholic orthodoxy as part of his lame-brained "conservative" comic persona, I don't think I'm stretching too much here.
[/quote]

I haven't had cable TV in almost a year, but I don't remember Colbert mocking Catholic orthodoxy back when I caught his show. On the contrary, I remember him standing up for Catholic moral teachings on a few occasions. (I might have selective memory... I tend to repress things that disturb me.)


And, Socrates, you should not be ashamed to tell people who is really controlling your thoughts, words and actions. She's actually quite lovely.

[fides quarens intellectum]

[quote name='tgoldson' timestamp='1293763953' post='2195346']
And, Socrates, you should not be ashamed to tell people who is really controlling your thoughts, words and actions. She's actually quite lovely.
[/quote]

awww!! That's so cute! I wonder if she (Bubbalicious) saw this.

Edited December 31, 2010 by fides quarens intellectum