Stephen Colbert Preaches Redemptive Suffering On The View

[Winchester]

Our politicians are typically leftists. Republicans overall seem less authoritarian than Democrats, but they still believe that freedom comes from legislation.

[Socrates]

[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1289223842' post='2185753']
Everyone is interested in working together. So long as that means the other side gives in.
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Whenever I see cries for "bi-partisanship" and "working together," it seems to always translate to "shut up and do what our side wants."

Liberals are forever whining about "divisiveness" and "polarization," which always translates to some liberal being outraged, yes [i][b]outraged[/b][/i], that there are people out there across the Fruited Plain who voice views opposed to his leftist opinions.

(Interestingly, this seems to be an entirely left-wing thing. I may have missed something, but I can't recall a conservative using the "divisiveness" or "polarization" line to attack liberal viewpoints.)

Apparently, in America today, we're supposed to all hold hands and rally around the same politically-correct ideals, and opposition must not be voiced, lest we (shock! horror!) be "divisive."

Everybody knows that Dissent is only Patriotic when there's an elephant in charge.

[Winchester]

[quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1289244052' post='2185806']
...the Fruited Plain ...
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I agree with much of this, but it's either fruited or it's plain; it can't be both.

[sixpence]

[quote name='dominicansoul' timestamp='1289185801' post='2185661']
colbert was part of the recent political rally in D.C., where [s]far-leftists[/s][i] mostly moderate liberals and a some moderate conservatives [/i]gathered to [s]spike their votes for pro-abortion politicians[/s] [i]protest political extremism and/or media fear-mongering[/i], so, no, I dont think Colbert really is someone I would look to for a catechism lesson...

....what he speaks of on the View is all emotion and fluffiness...
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No disagreement that he is not to be looked upon as a saintly role model or that he is not a great Catholic

ps~ Hiiiiii DS!!!

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[Socrates]

[quote name='sixpence' timestamp='1289245462' post='2185813']
. . . [i]protest political extremism and/or media fear-mongering[/i] . . .
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So what exactly is the "political extremism" and "media fear-mongering" being protested, and what action is the protest supposed to spur?

"Political extremism" is such a vague term as to be meaningless, and usually essentially translates to "political ideas which disagree with my own."

Somehow, I doubt the point of the rally is to protest suicide-bombing terrorists.

Edited November 8, 2010 by Socrates

[Sternhauser]

[quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1289258458' post='2185880']
Somehow, I doubt the point of the rally is to protest suicide-bombing terrorists.
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There really haven't been too many of those in America. And it's not because they're "fighting them over there." Or because the United State borders are secure. But 83 people were burned to death in Texas by terrorists.

~Sternhauser

Edited November 8, 2010 by Sternhauser

[Jesus_lol]

[quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1289258458' post='2185880']
So what exactly is the "political extremism" and "media fear-mongering" being protested, and what action is the protest supposed to spur?

"Political extremism" is such a vague term as to be meaningless, and usually essentially translates to "political ideas which disagree with my own."

Somehow, I doubt the point of the rally is to protest suicide-bombing terrorists.
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This would be like the people who refer to Obama as being simultaneously Hilter, Stalin, communist, facist, Muslim, athiest, and a Kenyan spy. And people who believe Bush and Cheney secretly arranged the 9/11 attacks to grab power, not to mention referring to Bush as Hitler.

Fear mongering by the media?
like reporting obvious lies as truth ie) death panels are real and obama will rape and kill your grandmother. The Acorn incident and a few others were blatantly manufactured and false(this particular revelation hardly being reported after the initial lies were flogged about the news for weeks, causing damage)
recently, Fox news reporting Obama's trip to india as costing the taxpayers 200 million dollars per day, and something like 30 warships, a number that appears to have pulled completely out of thin air.

Actually "political extremism" in that rally was expressly identified as being present in varying degrees in both political parties, and referred to some liberal political extremism that took place while Bush was president.

[HollyWilliams]

Awesome! I have been a big fan of redemptive suffering ever since I learned of it! And since I have Fibromyalgia and therefore suffer quite a bit, I love to offer up my sufferings! Now, don't get me wrong, I know there are many out there who suffer[b][i] far[/i][/b] more than I ever thought I could but I still do like to make use of the suffering that I do have!

[kujo]

Anyone catch Colbert last night?

He had a HILARIOUS segment about Poland's big Jesus statue and the need for the U.S. to bridge the "gigantic Jesus statue gap" in order to win the battle of the big Jesus statues which presages Jesus' return. Pretty awesome.

Then he had Martha Stewart on and she asked him if he "used to be" Catholic. He responded that he STILL Catholic and that you cannot be NOT Catholic if you once WERE Catholic. He then invited her back to the Church because he "did wanna see [her] in hell."

Come on....that is funny stuff!

[Socrates]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1289262070' post='2185896']
This would be like the people who refer to Obama as being simultaneously Hilter, Stalin, communist, facist, Muslim, athiest, and a Kenyan spy. And people who believe Bush and Cheney secretly arranged the 9/11 attacks to grab power, not to mention referring to Bush as Hitler.[/quote]
People believe all sorts of nutty things. Long before either Bush or Obama there were people who believed in all sorts of JFK assassination conspiracy theories, alien abductions and sinister government cover-ups thereof, interdimensional lizard-men controlling the world's governments, Bigfoot, and keynesian economics.

Somehow I doubt that a couple leftist funnymen staging a rally will change anyone's beliefs, but, hey, it's their party.

[quote]Fear mongering by the media?
like reporting obvious lies as truth ie) death panels are real and obama will rape and kill your grandmother. The Acorn incident and a few others were blatantly manufactured and false(this particular revelation hardly being reported after the initial lies were flogged about the news for weeks, causing damage)
recently, Fox news reporting Obama's trip to india as costing the taxpayers 200 million dollars per day, and something like 30 warships, a number that appears to have pulled completely out of thin air.

Actually "political extremism" in that rally was expressly identified as being present in varying degrees in both political parties, and referred to some liberal political extremism that took place while Bush was president.
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Conservatives have been complaining about the news media decades before liberals jumped in on the act, so there's nothing really groundbreaking there.
Again, I'm not sure what the rally's supposed to change, but whatever.

However, I did live in great fear for the safety of my grandmother based on reports from the Evil Right-Wing Media that Obama planned to rape and kill her, so it's good that Mr. Steward and Mr. Colbert were able to alleviate that concern for me.


If anti-Bush hysteria and left-wing political "extremism" were really such a concern for these guys, they sure seemed remarkably untroubled by it back in its heyday when Bush was still in office.

However, at the very moment when the donkeys' monopoly on government power is threatened, the libs suddenly decide to take action and stage a rally against "political extremism."

And if the pics provided us by sixpence are representative, it's attended by folks pushing "gay rights" and other trendy lefty social causes.

Call me a cynic, but it smells like liberal politics as usual.

[Ed Normile]

[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1288657607' post='2184092']
Are you drawing a correlation between satirical scatological humor and the distribution of abortofacients?

I know it's fall and yesterday was Halloween, but your strawman argument is pretty lamesauce.
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I lost this thread, and now I found it!

Kujo, good boy, you have totally distorted what I said. In my " strawman argument " which in reality was not directly related to the subject, rather offered to make one think. To break it down I offered that if I were to sell a product that is an Abortifactant, then what I produce for profit is death even though I may never have personally performed an abortion I enabled many such procedures in a different manner with the same effect, I am providing for the murder of innocents. The same way this man who outputs crude vulgar humor can not deny the effect he produces, which is sin that in many ways affects those who digest it. Children aside, even adults who laugh at this, or maybe even repeat the joke around the office cooler are exposed to sin from this mans produce. I view this type of material the same way as I view porn, it stains all who profit from it as well as though who use it. I hope that was succint enough for you my friend. His responsibility lies in what he produces , not in how or who uses it.

ed

[kujo]

Ed, I'm hoping that I'm wrong in sensing a pedantic, condescending tone in your post. If so, I apologize for even bringing it up.

But if not, I'll just let your own words dig your own hole...

[quote name='Ed Normile' timestamp='1291104658' post='2190002']
...even though I may never have personally performed an abortion I enabled many such procedures in a different manner with the same effect, I am providing for the murder of innocents. The same way this man who outputs crude vulgar humor can not deny the effect...

...I view this type of material the same way as I view porn, it stains all who profit from it as well as though who use it...
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Dude, there is no comparison or relationship to be made. Sure, you're using the same language, and it might even fall under the same category. But trying to draw a correlation between racy humor and pornography and abortions is risible and an offense to a rational mind.

I know what you're going for, but it's just wrong, man.

[Adrestia]

I know I am late to the party, but I made it to that rally in DC on Halloween and it was actually a lot of fun. Colbert is a comedian. His show is on Comedy Central. Why people take him or Stewart that seriously I may never understand.

I was actually in DC for work. My conference ended about an hour into the rally, so I dropped by hoping to meet a few friends. The music skit with Ozzie, Cat Stevens and the O'Jays was worth the trip.

[Jesus_lol]

Well, Jon Stewart, and later Shep Smith, can be credited for getting the 9/11 first responder's healthcare bill through, without them the story had been ignored by most media outlets.
Both of them shamed the actions of congress, until they decided to revote, and it won.

Edited December 23, 2010 by Jesus_lol

[kujo]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1293083706' post='2194087']
Well, Jon Stewart, and later Shep Smith, can be credited for getting the 9/11 first responder's healthcare bill through, without them the story had been ignored by most media outlets.
Both of them shamed the actions of congress, until they decided to revote, and it won.
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You certainly can't discount the role of Stewart, and, to a lesser degree, Shepherd Smith, in raising the public's hackles to this issue. And while I understand and somewhat agree with the points trying to be made by guys like Sen. Coburn. The problem is that they're putting fiscal prudence ahead of common sense; I don't give a croutons how this thing gets paid for, it just needs to be done. I mean, IMO, these guys should be on a list that entitles them to free EVERYTHING--mortgage, health insurance, groceries, bar tabs-- for the rest of their lives. And it doesn't matter worth a beaver dam how that gets paid for--it's just the right thing to do.