"if That Bubble Touches Me, I'm Going To Arrest You"

[havok579257]

[quote name='MichaelFilo' timestamp='1287587261' post='2181008']
They were at the same protest, they were not standing next to broken windows. It is a HUGE protest. If one black person during the civil rights movement shoved a cop, should they all be beaten?

Yes, if I stand next to drug dealers as they deal drugs I should be questioned. I don't condone it so I wouldn't be around them when they did. But this was not a parallel situation. These were people at the same protest.
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your the one who brought up the analogy.

[MichaelFilo]

I never said when they do business, I said I was friend with them. Association is crime. I hang out with white separatists, Communists, Marxists, and the sort. Association is not a crime is all I was trying to say.

[Mr.Cat]

I love how KnightofChrist makes arguments based on that he sees blowing bubbles as a menacing threat or offensive... from the giant officer who looks like he could of handled the crowd all on his own ([i]seriously, look at that dude[/i]) and had enough offense to upset the ENTIRE crowd. THEN he compares it to vandalism!!! YES!

The next time my nephews and nieces are over blowing bubbles, I will remember to myself, in some part of the world the police-state would come crashing down on these innocent children for blowing bubbles because of the offensive, menacing threat, and vandalism. I am so grateful I live within a government that this kind of nonsense ISN'T tolerated.

Edited October 20, 2010 by Mr Cat

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='Mr Cat' timestamp='1287592146' post='2181025']
I love how KnightofChrist makes arguments based on that he sees blowing bubbles as a menacing threat or offensive... from the giant officer who looks like he could of handled the crowd all on his own ([i]seriously, look at that dude[/i]) and had enough offense to upset the ENTIRE crowd. THEN he compares it to vandalism!!! YES!

The next time my nephews and nieces are over blowing bubbles, I will remember to myself, in some part of the world the police-state would come crashing down on these innocent children for blowing bubbles because of the offensive, menacing threat, and vandalism. I am so grateful I live within a government that this kind of nonsense ISN'T tolerated.
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Below is what was actually stated. For those that do not want to view your twisting of my statement. The young lady in the video is purposefully being irritating, and disrespectful to a police officer. She is trying to get the cop upset.

If my nephew were to blow bubbles at me and I asked them to stop and they did not listen, I or my brother would give them a little slap on the bottom.

[quote name='KnightofChrist' timestamp='1287519229' post='2180773']
If I go up and poke a pitbull with a stick and then the dog bites me, should I blame and be mad at the dog? I'm sorry but that is often the case with anarchist protesters. They purposefully do things they know will irritate and interfere with police duties, then cry like babes when their arrested. The protesters at G-whatever summits are often themselves violent, and little things can set off the violence such as blowing bubbles, and then next thing you know the anarchist protesters are rioting. But that is likely the polices fault as well they should be allowed to riot and destroy property.

And I'm sorry but we do not live in a Police-State, neither the USA or Canada is a Police-State. It is an [u] grave insult[/u] to those who live and die in actual police states to say that. Nazi Germany was a Police-State, Communist Russia was a Police-State, Communist China is a Police-State, Iran is a Police-State. In those nations if you speak against the government you are murdered, and your families and friends are even murdered.

I challenge any anarchist or dimwit who thinks that the USA or Canada is a police-state to go to an actual police-state and say the same things and do the same things you do against the USA or Canada and see how long you last without being murdered or thrown in prison without trial.

The fact that those railing against the Police-State in this thread (and the many others like it here) have not been dragged away in the dead of night is evidence that this is not a Police-State.

Give me a freaking break.

EDT: Anarchists have always been the cause and tool used by Dictators and True Police-States rise of power. Just something for you to chew on.
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[Mr.Cat]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' timestamp='1287596491' post='2181055']Below is what was actually stated. For those that do not want to view your twisting of my statement. The young lady in the video is purposefully being irritating, and disrespectful to a police officer. She is trying to get the cop upset.[/quote][center][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVwXOKZh4Os[/media][/center]
Yes... because you DIDN'T compare it to vandalism, you didn't just argue again that it was menacing, and you didn't argue in favor of "[i]Officer Bubbles[/i]". Maybe considering watching or learning what happened leading up to and during this protest in particular might help you understand.

Which isn't the reason given that she was taken into custody nor the reason why the police BLOCKED people from dispersing from the protest. So the argument of blowing bubbles is COMPLETELY irrelevant, but I guess in your mind the girl blowing bubbles should of been pinned to the ground and tased. If you watch the video the female officer with him seems a little [b]surprised[/b] at his response.

The situation simply could of been handled better, the officer unnecessarily intimated frighten the girl, and arrested a girl who did nothing to warrant arrest. She fact she [u]cooperated[/u] with "Officer Bubbles"... So now she gets to enjoy the shame and exposure of of jail. I think the reason why you KnightofChrist arguing this upsets me is you argue so strongly for respect and protection of women, but then see the aggressive male as justified. When this was happening it appears a large crowd gathered outside of the protest to protest what the police were doing... The police were in the wrong.[quote name='KnightofChrist' timestamp='1287596491' post='2181055']If my nephew were to blow bubbles at me and I asked them to stop and they did not listen, I or my brother would give them a little slap on the bottom.[/quote]If you touched my nephew or niece because they were blowing bubbles at you, considering their little kids, I would have to retaliate. Which would also include you being expelled from wherever this was.

But I am so pleased that you consider being dragged away to jail comparable to a "little" swat on the bottom.

Edited October 20, 2010 by Mr Cat

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='Mr Cat' timestamp='1287597456' post='2181060']
[center][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVwXOKZh4Os[/media][/quote][/center]
OOOooo a video by a bias liberal news agency.


[quote name='Mr Cat' timestamp='1287597456' post='2181060']. Yes... because you DIDN'T compare it to vandalism, you didn't just argue again that it was menacing, and you didn't argue in favor of "[i]Officer Bubbles[/i]". Maybe considering watching or learning what happened leading up to and during this protest in particular might help you understand.[/quote]

I compared it to poking a dog with a stick then whining when the dog bites. And I'm sorry but our time is up, but thanks for playing the game.

[quote name='Mr Cat' timestamp='1287597456' post='2181060']The situation simply could of been handled better, the officer unnecessarily intimated frighten the girl, and arrested a girl who did nothing to warrant arrest. She fact she [u]cooperated[/u] with "Officer Bubbles"... So now she gets to enjoy the shame and exposure of of jail. I think the reason why you KnightofChrist arguing this upsets me is you argue so strongly for respect and protection of women, but then see the aggressive male as justified. When this was happening it appears a large crowd gathered outside of the protest to protest what the police were doing... The police were in the wrong.If you touched my nephew or niece because they were blowing bubbles at you, considering their little kids, I would have to retaliate. Which would also include you being expelled from wherever this was.

But I am so pleased that you consider being dragged away to jail comparable to a "little" swat on the bottom.[/quote]

I don't think the woman was acting her age or being respectful to the police officer, she purposefully was trying to upset and irritate him. Then got arrested, big surprise. She should have acted like an adult and known better. Children get spankings adults go to jail. Welcome to real life.


[quote name='Mr Cat' timestamp='1287597456' post='2181060']If you touched my nephew or niece because they were blowing bubbles at you, considering their little kids, I would have to retaliate. Which would also include you being expelled from wherever this was.
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Interesting, you would retaliate after the fact for your nephew or niece, but in another thread not for the Blessed Lord? Interesting indeed. I never claimed to want to spank your nephew or niece. I was speaking of my own.

Edited October 20, 2010 by KnightofChrist

[Mr.Cat]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' timestamp='1287602872' post='2181074']OOOooo a video by a bias liberal news agency.[/quote]It's actually the same agency that did the video on the first post of this topic, that we all keep referring back to. There are many videos, take your pick.[quote name='KnightofChrist' timestamp='1287602872' post='2181074']I compared it to poking a dog with a stick then whining when the dog bites. And I'm sorry but our time is up, but thanks for playing the game.[/quote]Which that dog would be put down, that is a matter of law and practice. Even if it was a guard dog, their trained to be as non-violent as possible while still being aggressive. I guess you posting videos of vandalism had nothing to do with the topic.[quote name='KnightofChrist' timestamp='1287602872' post='2181074'] 1) I don't think the woman was acting her age or being respectful to the police officer, she purposefully was trying to upset and irritate him. Then got arrested, big surprise. She should have acted like an adult and known better. Children get spankings adults go to jail. Welcome to real life.[/quote] 1) Even if she was, she stopped and cooperated immediately. 2) She got arrested on what charge was that again? I love how you defend the police just arresting people without cause, because it wasn't the bubbles. 3) I'm glad you cleared up your misnomer from before. Being dragged to jail is not comparable to a "little swat" on the behind, but nice use of illusions to still try make it seem like it is. 4) When I listen to you, I don't hear "real life".[quote name='KnightofChrist' timestamp='1287602872' post='2181074']Interesting, you would retaliate after the fact for your nephew or niece, but in another thread not for the Blessed Lord? Interesting indeed. I never claimed to want to spank your nephew or niece. I was speaking of my own.[/quote]Yes... because attacking God is exactly the same as attacking an innocent and defenseless child. Although, you should read the topic more carefully, I did say the Blessed Sacrament ought be protected.

Edited October 20, 2010 by Mr Cat

[KnightofChrist]

I'm sorry but you seem far too bitter to spend my blessed existance on anymore today.

God Bless and the Peace of Christ be with you.

[Mr.Cat]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' timestamp='1287603409' post='2181078']I'm sorry but you seem far too bitter to spend my blessed existance on anymore today.[/quote]So bitter that you use arguments with children compared to God? I actually take a bit of offense to that.[quote name='KnightofChrist' timestamp='1287603409' post='2181078']God Bless and the Peace of Christ be with you.[/quote]No, keep it this time friend. You need it more than I.

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='Mr Cat' timestamp='1287603679' post='2181083']
No, keep it this time friend. You need it more than I.
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Nah not bitter in the slightest.

[Mr.Cat]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' timestamp='1287603923' post='2181085']Nah not bitter in the slightest.[/quote] I get more of KnightofChrist's blessed existence today...

Edited October 20, 2010 by Mr Cat

[Maggyie]

Lads don't follow each other from thread to thread being unfriendly to each other, would you treat Jesus that way? Cuz each of you is Jesus to the other.

[Mr.Cat]

[quote name='Maggie' timestamp='1287605166' post='2181097']Lads don't follow each other from thread to thread being unfriendly to each other, would you treat Jesus that way? Cuz each of you is Jesus to the other[/quote]I am a imperfect human, working with an imperfect knowledge, within an imperfect institution aspiring for something better in faith, hope, and sometimes charity. I don't hesitate to admit my short comings or let things go. The expression, "[i]What is done is done and tomorrow is another day[/i]" comes to my mind.

Though honestly there is part of me that finds it all fun, because of the personal history that has developed between KnightofChrist and me, its hard for me to take him seriously. But you are right Maggie, I am sorry. Even those people who ruffle my feathers deserve better and perhaps I have developed a bit of a bad perspective, I will let it go.

Edited October 20, 2010 by Mr Cat

[Sternhauser]

[quote name='notardillacid' timestamp='1287580357' post='2180992']
Did you know that the U.S. Government flew planes into buildings so we could invade other countries? I can even link you to a website with authoritative proof!
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Is it a website like this, where the State admits the presence of their agents, and admitted one of them had a rock? [url="http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/08/23/police-montebello.html"]http://www.cbc.ca/ca...montebello.html[/url]

It must have just been a paperweight.

~Sternhauser

Edited October 20, 2010 by Sternhauser

[MichaelFilo]

I think the problem is some people don't care about the state's growing power. Well, it is to your folly. Wise government is limited government, and when you think it's ok for officers to see themselves as some privileged class of people then we must part ways. After all, I believe all men are created in the image of God, and that principal translates into the equality of man inherent in our system. The intent is that even the president is no better than the average man, much less a police officer.

It is not a matter of being bitter, but if you don't protect the rights of those you oppose (and I oppose those groups who went protesting) then expect your own rights to be circumvented.

Also, what about our American policy of due process and equal protection under the law. Why is it ok for the president to put out a hit on an American citizen without a trial? See, even if you think this president will be wise with his new powers the next one might not be. This president's administration called pro-lifers potential terrorists, as well as returning soldiers. Do you see the potential here?