Sternhauser Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 (edited) She was leaving as ordered to, but her final comment while doing so was too much for the cop: she disrespected his authoritah. Proof it wasn't about enforcing the law. It was about him and his fragile ego. N.B., language. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_IQDOvp2o[/media] Note that he keeps saying "stop resisting" while she is not moving. Cops are trained to repeat this magical incantation over and over again as protection for any act they perform. ~Sternhauser Edited October 15, 2010 by Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 What was her final comment? i didnt hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 I've seen cops giving people a break before only to have the person make a smart comment and lose said break. But I can't read people's minds through youtube, so I won't speculate on the cop's intention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted October 15, 2010 Author Share Posted October 15, 2010 [quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1287178548' post='2179849'] What was her final comment? i didnt hear it. [/quote] It involved an F-bomb. ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted October 15, 2010 Author Share Posted October 15, 2010 [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1287178677' post='2179850'] I've seen cops giving people a break before only to have the person make a smart comment and lose said break. But I can't read people's minds through youtube, so I won't speculate on the cop's intention. [/quote] A cop's alleged prerogative is not to "give breaks," their alleged prerogative is to enforce statutes. Or at the very least, keep the peace, which the woman, at that point, was not threatening. Whether or not he didn't "cut a break," it was because of his ego, not any threat she posed. ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 [quote name='Sternhauser' timestamp='1287184052' post='2179879'] A cop's alleged prerogative is not to "give breaks," their alleged prerogative is to enforce statutes. Or at the very least, keep the peace, which the woman, at that point, was not threatening. Whether or not he didn't "cut a break," it was because of his ego, not any threat she posed. ~Sternhauser [/quote] Public Intoxication Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman82 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Unfortunately, the video appears to start halfway through the confrontation. I would like to have seen what was going on before the "you can take a cab" comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havok579257 Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 i see you convieniently left out the first part of the confrontation. easier that way to make the point you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus_lol Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 [quote name='havok579257' timestamp='1287198340' post='2179918'] i see you convieniently left out the first part of the confrontation. easier that way to make the point you want. [/quote] Because obviously he personally shot the video, edited the video and then posted it to youtube. Good job havok, way to try to make things personal. If someone was to be filming the girl before the confrontation, that would require a guy to be on scene who just likes to film random girls. once it becomes a scene, then it becomes worthy of filming. Try finding videos of anything that wasnt scripted that include the entire event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 [quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1287207144' post='2179929'] If someone was to be filming the girl before the confrontation, that would require a guy to be on scene who just likes to film random girls. once it becomes a scene, then it becomes worthy of filming. Try finding videos of anything that wasnt scripted that include the entire event. [/quote] I doubt the scene started then. The cop had already been dealing with her. She'd done something to attract attention. Could the cop have let her go? It looks like it. He called to her several times to stop and she didn't. He was under no obligation to let some drunk that was hurling obscenities and disturbing the peace (yes, being a drunk hurling obscenities is disturbing the peace) go without trying to correct the problem. Too many times I've seen similar stories go fine when the drunk stop and then calms down once warned. When they don't stop, it usually goes down like that. I'm no cop, but I've been in a few of those situations with combative patients and had people telling me the person I was restraining wasn't fighting back. To be sure, they don't look like they are, but when you're holding someone down you can feel the person tensed and resisting, so someone not moving much while being restrained or a few bystanders claiming she's not fighting back does not impress me. Public intoxication is not a big deal to me. But most of the time, people don't go down for being pleasantly inebriated. They go down for being drunk arse portals causing a real scene. If people were allowed to knock the poo out of drunk arse portals and not have a decent likelihood of getting into a ton of problems, it would be different. But that's no longer the case. Is it because of cops? No. It's because of the same type of sissy who stands around a scene like that thinking the person isn't resisting. Those sissies made laws that essentially have removed any societal control apart from cops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted October 16, 2010 Author Share Posted October 16, 2010 [quote name='havok579257' timestamp='1287198340' post='2179918'] i see you convieniently left out the first part of the confrontation. easier that way to make the point you want. [/quote] If you find the first part of the video, if it exists, please post it. The bottom line is that nothing she had done up to that point obviously was enough to make the "peace officer" take her to the ground, as she was told to leave, and was complying when she made a snide comment. Then, and only then, did he take her to the ground. Thus, even if it does exist, the first part of the film is immaterial. ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted October 16, 2010 Author Share Posted October 16, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1287222188' post='2179945'] Public intoxication is not a big deal to me. But most of the time, people don't go down for being pleasantly inebriated. They go down for being drunk arse portals causing a real scene. If people were allowed to knock the poo out of drunk arse portals and not have a decent likelihood of getting into a ton of problems, it would be different. But that's no longer the case. Is it because of cops? No. It's because of the same type of sissy who stands around a scene like that thinking the person isn't resisting. Those sissies made laws that essentially have removed any societal control apart from cops. [/quote] The bystanders were definitely sissies for just watching when the cop was on top of her. But Winchester, who dutifully [i]enforces [/i]those statutes made by sissies, further contributing to the sissyhood of the general populace? I've never had the need to use violence to stop a drunk who was mouthing off, though I've had enough opportunities. Why does a cop feel the need to use violence to stop a drunk who was mouthing off? Violent drunken people, of course, are a different case entirely. That drunk teenibopper was not among the latter group. He told her to leave, and then tackled her. Obviously, that [i]one thing[/i] she said to the cop between his telling her to leave, and her being tackled while doing so, was what made him arrest her. If she hadn't made a comment, she would've been allowed to leave. So this wasn't about protecting [i]anyone [/i]except Mr. Ego. ~Sternhauser Edited October 16, 2010 by Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman82 Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 [quote name='Sternhauser' timestamp='1287225148' post='2179950'] If you find the first part of the video, if it exists, please post it. The bottom line is that nothing she had done up to that point obviously was enough to make the "peace officer" take her to the ground, as she was told to leave, and was complying when she made a snide comment. Then, and only then, did he take her to the ground. Thus, even if it does exist, the first part of the film is immaterial. ~Sternhauser [/quote] [quote name='Sternhauser' timestamp='1287225310' post='2179951'] The bystanders were definitely sissies for just watching when the cop was on top of her. But Winchester, who dutifully [i]enforces [/i]those statutes made by sissies, further contributing to the sissyhood of the general populace? I've never had the need to use violence to stop a drunk who was mouthing off, though I've had enough opportunities. Why does a cop feel the need to use violence to stop a drunk who was mouthing off? Violent drunken people, of course, are a different case entirely. That drunk teenibopper was not among the latter group. He told her to leave, and then tackled her. Obviously, that [i]one thing[/i] she said to the cop between his telling her to leave, and her being tackled while doing so, was what made him arrest her. If she hadn't made a comment, she would've been allowed to leave. So this wasn't about protecting [i]anyone [/i]except Mr. Ego. ~Sternhauser [/quote] Well, then until we see the first part or get the eyewitness accounts, we'll never really know. Also, if this video is on the internet, why don't we hear more about it in the local media? Normally, such videos make it to the evening news and the story is followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted October 16, 2010 Author Share Posted October 16, 2010 [quote name='Norseman82' timestamp='1287250350' post='2180001'] Well, then until we see the first part or get the eyewitness accounts, we'll never really know.[/quote] We have the video of Detective Baylor in D.C. admitting that he pulled a gun out because his SUV got hit with snowballs. A lot of good that did. You know what would have happened if a mere unwashed mundane had done the same. [quote]Also, if this video is on the internet, why don't we hear more about it in the local media? Normally, such videos make it to the evening news and the story is followed. [/quote] It is a month old. ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havok579257 Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 [quote name='Sternhauser' timestamp='1287225310' post='2179951'] The bystanders were definitely sissies for just watching when the cop was on top of her. But Winchester, who dutifully [i]enforces [/i]those statutes made by sissies, further contributing to the sissyhood of the general populace? I've never had the need to use violence to stop a drunk who was mouthing off, though I've had enough opportunities. Why does a cop feel the need to use violence to stop a drunk who was mouthing off? Violent drunken people, of course, are a different case entirely. That drunk teenibopper was not among the latter group. He told her to leave, and then tackled her. Obviously, that [i]one thing[/i] she said to the cop between his telling her to leave, and her being tackled while doing so, was what made him arrest her. If she hadn't made a comment, she would've been allowed to leave. So this wasn't about protecting [i]anyone [/i]except Mr. Ego. ~Sternhauser [/quote] that was not voilence. restraining someone is not considered violence, most of all how he did it. cause if that's violent, then i guess all us emt's use violence all the time when restaining pts. please look up the word tackle. cause if you consider that tackling someone... now your over exageratting things to try and make your point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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