Micah Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 [quote name='dUSt' timestamp='1284088862' post='2171221'] How did you find phatmass? [/quote] I think I typed in Catholic forum on google. I was sick of arguing with radical prots on Christian forums online. [color=#595959][font=arial, verdana, sans-serif][size=4][quote]I also think it's wonderful, but maybe not THAT unusual. I was a history major at a VERY secular school and we read the Bible in at least one history class that I remember, maybe more than one class. We also read from church scholars such as St. Augustine (not books about St. Augustine, but translations of his writings). And, moving on to to medieval times and the Renaissance, the writings of Church scholars of the time were important texts for the classes. In fact, the Catholic church was an important force in virtually every stage of history--at least after the time of Christ. I also took "The Bible as Literature," (an English class), so obviously, the Bible was our main text in that class. And, I didn't even take any religion classes--I'm sure it would have been standard in those.[/quote][/size][/font][/color] [color=#595959][font=arial, verdana, sans-serif][size=4] [/size][/font][/color] [color=#595959][font=arial, verdana, sans-serif][size=4]are you a history major too? :][/size][/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgnatiusofLoyola Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 [quote name='Micah' timestamp='1284091391' post='2171231'] [color="#595959"][font="arial, verdana, sans-serif"][size="4"]are you a history major too? :][/size][/font][/color] [/quote] Yup, I was a history undergrad at Berkeley, and have a Master's in Library Science from UCLA. I love history, but it was hard to decide on a major, because there were a lot of other subjects I found interesting, too. With regard to history, I tend to be most interested in how people lived in the past, not as interested in things like wars and politics--although those obviously greatly affected how people lived (and still do today). In my bones, I'm a librarian/researcher. I love looking up things on the Internet, and love searching for hard-to-find information. In my home I have roughly 2,000 books--all cataloged. Yes, I am a nerd (and proud of it!) We should always be proud of who we are at heart (well, unless, for example, we rob convenience stores or steal money from elderly people to make our living). I didn't discover until after college how much I loved animals. If I had to do it over again, knowing what I know now, I would also have enjoyed getting a Master's or a PhD in zoology, and working as a researcher on animal behavior. When I discovered my love for animals, since I wasn't interested in going back to college, I volunteered as a docent/guide at Lincoln Park Zoo in Chicago and loved it. Even though we were volunteers, the training was pretty hardcore. We had to pass an oral exam where we stood in front of the exhibit of every animal in the zoo (roughly 200 species), and, without notes, had to talk for at least 5 minutes and answer questions about each separate animal. (The exam was spread out over several weeks--it took hours.) That's why you'll often see me insert animal factoids into otherwise unrelated threads. I spent most of my time with the gorillas--I could easily talk for 8 hours or more about gorillas. Like virtually everyone who worked or volunteered at the zoo, I confess that, on the whole, I like animals better than people. Not all the time, of course, but more often than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccountDeleted Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 [quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' timestamp='1284095824' post='2171254'] Like virtually everyone who worked or volunteered at the zoo, I confess that, on the whole, I like animals better than people. Not all the time, of course, but more often than not. [/quote] This yes -- but I do work very hard at following Jesus' second commandment to love our neighbor as well (the first commandment is easy - to love Him ) - but it is a challenge for me to love everyone! I gave up being a university professor and department chair because I got sick of the academic politics, and I became a horse trainer instead! It was a lot easier to start a horse under saddle than it was to hold a department committee meeting! "Join up" justs seems to work better with horses. (couldn't find a more appropriate emo). I also worked for a cat rescue organization and as a vet assistant. I just love animals so I would enjoy your eight hour lectures on gorillas! And we have another thing in common - information management. I did grad work in this but I focused more on databases than on books - that why I love googling databases. You say you have all your books indexed -- love it - I would also enter them all into a database for easy retrieval! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 [quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' timestamp='1284095824' post='2171254'] Yup, I was a history undergrad at Berkeley, and have a Master's in Library Science from UCLA. I love history, but it was hard to decide on a major, because there were a lot of other subjects I found interesting, too. With regard to history, I tend to be most interested in how people lived in the past, not as interested in things like wars and politics--although those obviously greatly affected how people lived (and still do today). In my bones, I'm a librarian/researcher. I love looking up things on the Internet, and love searching for hard-to-find information. In my home I have roughly 2,000 books--all cataloged. Yes, I am a nerd (and proud of it!) We should always be proud of who we are at heart (well, unless, for example, we rob convenience stores or steal money from elderly people to make our living). I didn't discover until after college how much I loved animals. If I had to do it over again, knowing what I know now, I would also have enjoyed getting a Master's or a PhD in zoology, and working as a researcher on animal behavior. When I discovered my love for animals, since I wasn't interested in going back to college, I volunteered as a docent/guide at Lincoln Park Zoo in Chicago and loved it. Even though we were volunteers, the training was pretty hardcore. We had to pass an oral exam where we stood in front of the exhibit of every animal in the zoo (roughly 200 species), and, without notes, had to talk for at least 5 minutes and answer questions about each separate animal. (The exam was spread out over several weeks--it took hours.) That's why you'll often see me insert animal factoids into otherwise unrelated threads. I spent most of my time with the gorillas--I could easily talk for 8 hours or more about gorillas. Like virtually everyone who worked or volunteered at the zoo, I confess that, on the whole, I like animals better than people. Not all the time, of course, but more often than not. [/quote] Awesome! We have a lot in common. First Im a nerd too.. I was a biology major until I decided to major in history, but Im an anthropologist at heart so I steer my historical studies towards the everyday persons life as well. When Im done Im hoping to study informatics so I can make some money in an archive or specialist library. :] but I dont catalogue the books that are haplessly strewn all over my room, my desk, my bookcase, my bed, stacked up against the wall. Its hopeless. What are you doing now? cause Ive struggled with what direction to head after school. [font=arial, helvetica, verdana][size=2]--Gorillas sleep about 13 hours each night and rest for several hours at midday. They build new sleeping nests every night by bending nearby plants into a springy platform, usually on the ground or in low trees. When not resting they spend most of their time looking for food and eating it. They eat mostly plant foods: leaves, shoots, fruits, bulbs, bark, vines and nettles. They also eat ants, termites, grubs, worms and insect larvae.[/size][/font] [font=arial, helvetica, verdana][size=2] [/size][/font] [font=arial, helvetica, verdana][size=2][img]http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGC/StaticFiles/Images/Show/38xx/381x/3817_Explorer_Gorilla_Murder-8_05320299.JPG[/img] [/size][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragments Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I adore this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted September 11, 2010 Author Share Posted September 11, 2010 [quote name='Fragments' timestamp='1284140779' post='2171437'] I adore this post. [/quote] [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/proud.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinytherese Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 (edited) Last friday in my Introduction to Sacred Scripture class we had to choose a Bible verse and copy it down in different translations to see the differences. Mine was Matthew 28:6. I don't remember all of the translations that I did, but I do know that they were all in english. Our professor actually brought in some translations in different languages. After class I rolled the cart full of those different Bibles to my professor's office (She's a carmelite sister in the habit by the way. ) A bunch of students were in the middle of the hallway and I said "Excuse me," so that I could get through. One of the priests on campus was there and he jokingly said that I should just run right through them with the cart. I'm a theology major, so I'll be using the Bible a lot. I still find it weird though that even though my school is for the most part orthodox, we only use the NAB and NRSV. According to Sister, those are the only translations in the U.S. that are acceptable in academic work. That might be because of the one theological honor society on campus contributes only accepts those translations. I still have my RSV-CE with me though. It's leather bound and has highlighted verses I've made in it. I have to write a paper for my Scripture class on the Resurrection Narratives of the Gospels. My adviser said that she's going to try to get a separate major set up called pastoral ministry for those like me who intend to do catechesis for a living. I don't know if I'll do graduate school or not. My western civilizations professor I had in the past at another school made it clear that he was anti-Christian, in particular anti-Catholic. My class and I thought he was intimidating and I was nervous about writing one of our papers for him. I chose to write mine on a small section of St. Augustine's City of God. My professor could tell that I was Catholic, since I cited the catechism in another essay. Fortunately, I made it out of that class alive, but from what I heard from friends, he got even worse with further pushing his anti-Christian agenda on students. Odd, he emphasized how he wanted us to be objective in our studies and that he didn't want us to write stuff just to please him. He sure got me interested in Church history though. Edited September 12, 2010 by tinytherese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 [quote name='tinytherese' timestamp='1284288522' post='2172207'] Last friday in my Introduction to Sacred Scripture class we had to choose a Bible verse and copy it down in different translations to see the differences. Mine was Matthew 28:6. I don't remember all of the translations that I did, but I do know that they were all in english. Our professor actually brought in some translations in different languages. After class I rolled the cart full of those different Bibles to my professor's office (She's a carmelite sister in the habit by the way. ) A bunch of students were in the middle of the hallway and I said "Excuse me," so that I could get through. One of the priests on campus was there and he jokingly said that I should just run right through them with the cart. I'm a theology major, so I'll be using the Bible a lot. I still find it weird though that even though my school is for the most part orthodox, we only use the NAB and NRSV. According to Sister, those are the only translations in the U.S. that are acceptable in academic work. That might be because of the one theological honor society on campus contributes only accepts those translations. I still have my RSV-CE with me though. It's leather bound and has highlighted verses I've made in it. I have to write a paper for my Scripture class on the Resurrection Narratives of the Gospels. My adviser said that she's going to try to get a separate major set up called pastoral ministry for those like me who intend to do catechesis for a living. I don't know if I'll do graduate school or not. My western civilizations professor I had in the past at another school made it clear that he was anti-Christian, in particular anti-Catholic. My class and I thought he was intimidating and I was nervous about writing one of our papers for him. I chose to write mine on a small section of St. Augustine's City of God. My professor could tell that I was Catholic, since I cited the catechism in another essay. Fortunately, I made it out of that class alive, but from what I heard from friends, he got even worse with further pushing his anti-Christian agenda on students. Odd, he emphasized how he wanted us to be objective in our studies and that he didn't want us to write stuff just to please him. He sure got me interested in Church history though. [/quote] Your life is so full of win! I want to be a Catechist and study theology. Is there a huge difference between the NRSV and the RSV-CE? Doesnt one use inclusive language and the other not.. I had a prof like yours. She criticized Christianity at every turn and got complaints about it every semester, but she was still an amazing prof and knew that I was Catholic (I was a catechumen at the time). One of her books is actually required reading in my third year courses this semester. I look back at her with a love/hate sort of understanding. So you must go to a Catholic university right? Unfortunately we don't have any in Western Canada besides two year colleges. :[ Random update. I saw my prof in Church today and said good morning, but it was kinda odd. I think it might be bad press in the hyper-political academic world for the faculty to find out you go to Church with a student. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wikitiki Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 [quote name='Micah' timestamp='1284044319' post='2170801'] ya, My RSV feels kind of ostentatious with all its gold filigree and red ribbons, and there are all these paperback NIVs and KJVs everywhere.. Typical roman. >:[ [/quote] I think I'd feel very awesome with my Douay-Rheims-Challoner. Very awesome. That's really neat! I think the only cool thing for me at the moment is that my French teacher has a poster up of a Eucharistic procession that I can glance to whenever I have a free minute. It's kind of sad, though, because I'm planning on switching to Latin next year, and she only teaches French and Spanish. But I'll enjoy it while I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentarthurdent95 Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 You are very blessed that you got a professor that actually requires the Bible as a textbook. I go to a fundamentalist Christian high school, and I believe that I am the only Catholic student there. We do have a separate Bible class, but we can't have the real (complete) Bible, only the NIV. But, at least were learning about most of the Bible, which is better than nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 [quote name='Micah' timestamp='1283827168' post='2169021'] [font=monospace][size=2][i]Dear Students enrolled in History 288, Hahaha Woo.... [/quote] [img]http://412.laxallstars.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/ric-flair-woooo-779108-400x303.jpg[/img] I am happy for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 [quote name='Wikitiki' timestamp='1284339162' post='2172454'] I think I'd feel very awesome with my Douay-Rheims-Challoner. Very awesome. That's really neat! I think the only cool thing for me at the moment is that my French teacher has a poster up of a Eucharistic procession that I can glance to whenever I have a free minute. It's kind of sad, though, because I'm planning on switching to Latin next year, and she only teaches French and Spanish. But I'll enjoy it while I can. [/quote] Sweeet. Im surprised they allow a poster of the Eucharistic procession to be hung in a school. If I found someone with a Douay Rheims in my class, they'd be my new best friend. [color=#595959][font=arial, verdana, sans-serif][size=4][quote]You are very blessed that you got a professor that actually requires the Bible as a textbook. I go to a fundamentalist Christian high school, and I believe that I am the only Catholic student there. We do have a separate Bible class, but we can't have the real (complete) Bible, only the NIV. But, at least were learning about most of the Bible, which is better than nothing[/quote][/size][/font][/color] [color=#595959][font=arial, verdana, sans-serif][size=4] [/size][/font][/color] [color=#595959][font=arial, verdana, sans-serif][size=4]Wow dude, I feel your pain.. that would infuriate me. [/size][/font][/color] [color=#595959][font=arial, verdana, sans-serif][size=4] [/size][/font][/color] [color=#595959][font=arial, verdana, sans-serif][size=4][quote]I am happy for you[/quote][/size][/font][/color] [color=#595959][font=arial, verdana, sans-serif][size=4] [/size][/font][/color] [color=#595959][font=arial, verdana, sans-serif][size=4]haha thanks. Im happy too. :][/size][/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinytherese Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Micah' timestamp='1284338145' post='2172446'] Your life is so full of win! I want to be a Catechist and study theology. Is there a huge difference between the NRSV and the RSV-CE? Doesnt one use inclusive language and the other not.. [/quote] The NRSV has the inclusive language and isn't a Church approved translation. The RSV-CE is approved. I sure like it better than the NAB. I'm at a really small Catholic school on the Newman Guide. We have an abbey of Benedictine monks on campus. Edited September 13, 2010 by tinytherese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 [quote name='tinytherese' timestamp='1284354070' post='2172554'] The NRSV has the inclusive language and isn't a Church approved translation. The RSV-CE is approved. I sure like it better than the NAB. I'm at a really small Catholic school on the Newman Guide. We have an abbey of Benedictine monks on campus. [/quote] That's so cool! School has kind of taken an antagonistic role for me lately.. Faith is Not welcome there. But I think having an abbeyfull of Benedictine monks would help a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentarthurdent95 Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 [quote name='Micah' timestamp='1284341413' post='2172464'] [color="#595959"][font="arial, verdana, sans-serif"][size="4"][/size][/font][/color] [color="#595959"][font="arial, verdana, sans-serif"][size="4"] [/size][/font][/color] [color="#595959"][font="arial, verdana, sans-serif"][size="4"]Wow dude, I feel your pain.. that would infuriate me. [/size][/font][/color] [color="#595959"][font="arial, verdana, sans-serif"][size="4"] [/size][/font][/color] [color="#595959"][font="arial, verdana, sans-serif"][size="4"][/size][/font][/color] [color="#595959"][font="arial, verdana, sans-serif"][size="4"] [/size][/font][/color] [/quote] It definantly infuriates me but I deal with it. I started doing an apoligetics thing on my own time, and I have learned a lot. The mission statement has things in it about Sola Scriptura which is one of the first chapters in the apoligetics book, so I am getting prepared to answer questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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