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God Didn't Make The Earth


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There, fixed.
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Can you really make god anything though? Isn't he immutable?

On a train station over here, somebody had put graffiti on the wall saying:

"God is dead" regards Nietzsche

Somebody later came and wrote

"Nietzsche is dead" regards God

it gave me the lulz

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Laudate_Dominum

BOOM! Teh big bang happind and teh earth appeared. So I believe.

I saw that "God Didn't Make The Earth" headline on teh yahoo homepage and cringed because they (the syndicated news) do an awful job presenting "science" news. Although this is basically just an advertisement for Hawking's latest book imo. I'll probably acquire a copy at some point and give it a read. The news articles doesn't really say anything of value but I trust that the book may include some real science and some interesting ideas. I already accept teh plausibility of multiverse cosmology and I'm stoked about teh remote possibility of extra dimensions being evidenced by experiments such as ATLAS at teh LHC. If diss is teh kind of thing they're referring to, like and such as how theories of quantum gravity might nullify teh question of "before" teh Planck epoch, teh book may be hyped up a bit much. Not sure. But hopefully teh book will be cheap on amazon.

Yes, "teh" is my new favorite word atm.

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[quote name='Hilde' timestamp='1283775136' post='2168722']
Can you really make god anything though? Isn't he immutable?

On a train station over here, somebody had put graffiti on the wall saying:

"God is dead" regards Nietzsche

Somebody later came and wrote

"Nietzsche is dead" regards God

it gave me the lulz
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Love it!

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[url="http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Design-Stephen-Hawking/dp/0553805371/"]The Grand Design[/url]

[quote]How can we understand the world in which we find ourselves? Over twenty years ago I wrote A Brief History of Time, to try to explain where the universe came from, and where it is going. But that book left some important questions unanswered. Why is there a universe--why is there something rather than nothing? Why do we exist? Why are the laws of nature what they are? Did the universe need a designer and creator?

It was Einstein’s dream to discover the grand design of the universe, a single theory that explains everything. However, physicists in Einstein’s day hadn’t made enough progress in understanding the forces of nature for that to be a realistic goal. And by the time I had begun writing A Brief History of Time, there were still several key advances that had not yet been made that would prevent us from fulfilling Einstein’s dream. But in recent years the development of M-theory, the top-down approach to cosmology, and new observations such as those made by satellites like NASA’s COBE and WMAP, have brought us closer than ever to that single theory, and to being able to answer those deepest of questions. And so Leonard Mlodinow and I set out to write a sequel to A Brief History of Time to attempt to answer the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Everything. The result is The Grand Design, the product of our four-year effort.

In The Grand Design we explain why, according to quantum theory, the cosmos does not have just a single existence, or history, but rather that every possible history of the universe exists simultaneously. We question the conventional concept of reality, posing instead a "model-dependent" theory of reality. We discuss how the laws of our particular universe are extraordinarily finely tuned so as to allow for our existence, and show why quantum theory predicts the multiverse--the idea that ours is just one of many universes that appeared spontaneously out of nothing, each with different laws of nature. And we assess M-Theory, an explanation of the laws governing the multiverse, and the only viable candidate for a complete "theory of everything." As we promise in our opening chapter, unlike the answer to the Ultimate Question of Life given in the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, the answer we provide in The Grand Design is not, simply, "42." . . .[/quote]

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[quote name='Hilde' timestamp='1283775136' post='2168722']
Can you really make god anything though? Isn't he immutable?

On a train station over here, somebody had put graffiti on the wall saying:

"God is dead" regards Nietzsche

Somebody later came and wrote

"Nietzsche is dead" regards God

it gave me the lulz
[/quote]


I have read something similar to this Nietzsche quote before - it does make me lulz.

As for God feeling things. I think He can. He made us in is own image, and the Old Testament talks about God getting angry, and Jesus not only wept when Lazarus was dead (for whatever reason), He also grieved over Jerusalem. Didn't St Paul also tell us not to make the Holy Spirit sad?

Buddhism doesn't see a personal God, but for me God is very personal. Otherwise, why would He have bothered with the Incarnation, the Passion and the Crucifixion? Why would sin offend Him?

Yes, I believe we can make God angry or sad. I chose to change the quote to sad because I think that God's love is even stronger than His anger, and Nietzsche's quote seems like something that would make a parent sad towards their child rather than angry. Just my POV.
:saint:

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