Laudate_Dominum Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 [quote name='BibleReader' timestamp='1283374579' post='2166463'] [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1283371608' post='2166418'] Then you will have to start your own poll to determine why you are on the internet. Every thread is not about you. Lemurs... [/quote] Touche [/quote] I was thinking the same thing only with a D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted September 1, 2010 Author Share Posted September 1, 2010 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' timestamp='1283374792' post='2166468'] I was thinking the same thing only with a D. [/quote] You're an angry nerd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 [img]http://anarchyinyourhead.com/comics/2008-04-04-iron_fist_hero.png[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted September 2, 2010 Author Share Posted September 2, 2010 Actually, the argument is that anarchy will not last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1283389466' post='2166702'] Actually, the argument is that anarchy will not last. [/quote] Neither will a small State. One is a rationally consistent and moral option. ~Sternhauser Edited September 2, 2010 by Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted September 2, 2010 Author Share Posted September 2, 2010 [quote name='Sternhauser' timestamp='1283391565' post='2166723'] Neither will a small State. One is a rationally consistent and moral option. ~Sternhauser [/quote] Apparently it's government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1283383671' post='2166649'] You're an angry nerd. [/quote] angry video game nerd for teh wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1283393852' post='2166741'] Apparently it's government. [/quote] Why is it "apparent?" Due to its prevalence and ubiquity? ~Sternhauser Edited September 2, 2010 by Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted September 2, 2010 Author Share Posted September 2, 2010 [quote name='Sternhauser' timestamp='1283394079' post='2166744'] Why is it "apparent?" Due to its prevalence and ubiquity? ~Sternhauser [/quote] Due to God and all that "King" talk and the complete lack of telling us not to have government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenciledOne Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1283394915' post='2166747'] Due to God and all that "King" talk and the complete lack of telling us not to have government. [/quote] Despite that whole listing in 1 Samuel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 [quote name='ThePenciledOne' timestamp='1283395669' post='2166756'] Despite that whole listing in 1 Samuel? [/quote] Quoting that passage in favor of anarchy only works if one rips out all the other verses from the Bible where it is stated God gives power to kings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1283394915' post='2166747'] Due to God and all that "King" talk and the complete lack of telling us not to have government. [/quote] Penciled One is correct. 1 Samuel 8 was a pretty explicit section: the most explicit, I think, in the whole Bible. It wasn't [i]at all[/i] supportive of God's Chosen People having a king. In fact, it scathingly [i]condemned[/i] their decision. ~Sternhauser Edited September 2, 2010 by Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 [quote name='KnightofChrist' timestamp='1283396279' post='2166761'] Quoting that passage in favor of anarchy only works if one rips out all the other verses from the Bible where it is stated God gives power to kings. [/quote] Didn't God give power to Satan, too? ~Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
un.privileged Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 The end does not justify the means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
un.privileged Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 (edited) [quote name='KnightofChrist' timestamp='1283396279' post='2166761'] Quoting that passage in favor of anarchy only works if one rips out all the other verses from the Bible where it is stated God gives power to kings. [/quote] Yes, He gave the power to kings, through the [i]consent[/i] of the people. The bible never said that God gave direct power to kings. St. Cardinal Robert Bellarmine, "It depends upon the [i]consent[/i] of the multitude to constitute over itself a king, consul, or other magistrate. This power is, indeed, from God, but vested in a particular ruler [i]by[/i] the counsel and election of men" ("De Laicis, c. 6, notes 4 and 5). "The people themselves immediately and directly hold the political power" ("De Clericis," c. 7). Edited September 2, 2010 by un.privileged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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