Hey

[Jaime]

[quote name='eustace scrubb' timestamp='1282343430' post='2160790']
The news article stuff has gotten to the point where I don't even want to read this forum. I don't care what they're about at this point, just CHILL OUT WITH IT ALREADY!!!!!!! !!!!! Please, just exercise some self-control and do it in MODERATION!!!!!!! !!!


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right there with you

[IcePrincessKRS]

[quote name='eustace scrubb' timestamp='1282343430' post='2160790']
The news article stuff has gotten to the point where I don't even want to read this forum. I don't care what they're about at this point, just CHILL OUT WITH IT ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!! Please, just exercise some self-control and do it in MODERATION!!!!!!!!!!


[/quote]

I agree. Dust has given the moderators permission to merge some of the threads if they are by the same author. The next time I see several of them relating to the same topics on the first page of Open Mic I will be merging them into one thread.

[quote name='dominicansoul' timestamp='1282361814' post='2160899']
like stories pertaining to our FAITH and spreading the Gospel, and the FULLNESS OF TRUTH?


I'm on it!
[/quote]

Yes. Exactly.

[Resurrexi]

[quote name='Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam' timestamp='1282364607' post='2160923']
I am fairly certain that most people would argue that freedom of speech is a natural right of humanity.
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I would actually disagree with this statement, as would Leo XIII, it seems.

"[I]t is quite unlawful to demand, to defend, or to grant unconditional freedom of thought, of speech, or writing, or of worship, as if these were so many rights given by nature to man. For, if nature had really granted them, it would be lawful to refuse obedience to God, and there would be no restraint on human liberty. It likewise follows that freedom in these things may be tolerated wherever there is just cause, but only with such moderation as will prevent its degenerating into license and excess." (Pope Leo XIII, Libertas præstantissimum, 42)

I am quite glad that the First Amendment grants free exercise of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom of the press. However, rather than seeing these as natural rights, I see them as practical necessities in our country.

[Tridenteen]

JMJ
Isn't it something like if you had one hundred percent unconditional freedom, chances are you wouldn't make it to Heaven.

[dominicansoul]

[quote name='Tridenteen' timestamp='1282405069' post='2161035']
JMJ
Isn't it something like if you had one hundred percent unconditional freedom, chances are you wouldn't make it to Heaven.
[/quote]


but isn't that what "free will" is? unconditional freedom to choose right from wrong or vice versa?

[ThePenciledOne]

I like where this thread is going.

[MithLuin]

His screen name is [i]Eustace Scrubb[/i] and we're complaining about him complaining? IIRC, that's all that character did for the first few chapters of [i]Dawn Treader[/i]. Besides, it was valid to point out a deluge and say 'enough already!'

Obviously, we cannot post whatever we want in this forum. There is a fiddler to prevent us from saying scandalous words like coagulated milk and smells of elderberries. We are not permitted to post indecent images. We are not allowed to link to pages by the SSPX. Etc. These restrictions are placed on our free exercise of speech for the good of the community and by the whims of the administrator.

Moderators can edit posts that are considered to be inappropriate, and they can merge/delete threads that are simply spam. And anyone (at any time) can complain about a post they do not like.

I think laws should be viewed through the lens of St. Paul's words: "Why the Law then? It was added because of transgressions, having been ordained through angels by the agency of a mediator, until the seed would come to whom the promise had been made." [i]Galatians 3:19[/i]

In other words, if people are going to sin and be ruled by concupiscence, then they will need rules as guidelines to keep them on the straight and narrow (and maybe even punishments to reinforce that). If, on the other hand, our hearts are in accord with Christ's, no restrictions would be necessary, because we would naturally do what we ought to do. It is the recognition of the fallen nature of humanity that led Pope Leo to voice his concerns about unlimited freedoms (such as freedom of speech), because it is obvious that some people would abuse that freedom and lead others astray - as a pastor of souls, he recognized the danger.

[CatherineM]

I just unpacked the Dawn Treader. It was in one of 40 gazillion boxes I have to unpack before school starts.

[eustace scrubb]

[quote name='IcePrincessKRS' timestamp='1282403934' post='2161027']
I agree. Dust has given the moderators permission to merge some of the threads if they are by the same author. The next time I see several of them relating to the same topics on the first page of Open Mic I will be merging them into one thread.[/quote]

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[eustace scrubb]

[quote name='MithLuin' timestamp='1282409329' post='2161063']
His screen name is [i]Eustace Scrubb[/i] and we're complaining about him complaining? IIRC, that's all that character did for the first few chapters of [i]Dawn Treader[/i]. Besides, it was valid to point out a deluge and say 'enough already!' [/quote]

HA! That was good...

And thank you for saying that. Someone had to speak up about it.

[Hilde]

Yeah it gets boring and annoying.

[Hilde]

Yeah it gets boring and annoying.