Nihil Obstat Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 [quote name='homeschoolmom' date='07 August 2010 - 10:21 PM' timestamp='1281237699' post='2153889'] [/quote] Except you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 [quote name='KnightofChrist' date='07 August 2010 - 09:24 PM' timestamp='1281230655' post='2153822'] Indeed it must. Christians have a duty to pray for and preach the Gospel to individual lost souls. Praying for someones damnation, or refusing to pray for someones salvation would seem to be a great injustice and dishonor to God, and the soul made in His Divine Image. [/quote] I don't think the two are the same at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 Both are the same in as much as both are great injustices that dishonor God, because each dishonors the soul made in His Divine Image, and His commandment to love our neighbor. Yet praying for someone to be damned would be far worse in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 [quote name='KnightofChrist' date='08 August 2010 - 12:07 AM' timestamp='1281240473' post='2153913'] Both are the same in as much as both are great injustices that dishonor God, because each dishonors the soul made in His Divine Image, and His commandment to love our neighbor. Yet praying for someone to be damned would be far worse in comparison. [/quote] You forgot to say "in your opinion" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 God Bless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 [quote name='KnightofChrist' date='08 August 2010 - 12:07 AM' timestamp='1281240473' post='2153913'] Both are the same in as much as both are great injustices that dishonor God, because each dishonors the soul made in His Divine Image, and His commandment to love our neighbor. Yet praying for someone to be damned would be far worse in comparison. [/quote] Indeed, to refuse to pray for a person's salvation is to indirectly wish his damnation. But to pray for an individual's damnation is to directly wish his damnation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhauser Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 (edited) Yes. Let's pray for Hitchens's conversion. He's far too juicy a fish not to end up in heaven glorifying God and His infinite mercy. As a hobbit once said, "Our [i]only[/i] [i]wish[/i] is to catch a fish." ~Sternhauser Edited August 8, 2010 by Sternhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='08 August 2010 - 12:48 AM' timestamp='1281242938' post='2153931'] Indeed, to refuse to pray for a person's salvation is to indirectly wish his damnation. [/quote] In your opinion I would completely disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 [quote name='hot stuff' date='08 August 2010 - 01:33 AM' timestamp='1281245607' post='2153946'] In your opinion I would completely disagree. [/quote] So if an individual asked me to pray for his salvation and I refused, I am not indirectly wishing him damnation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='08 August 2010 - 01:35 AM' timestamp='1281245725' post='2153947'] So if an individual asked me to pray for his salvation and I refused, I am not indirectly wishing him damnation? [/quote] KoC was referring (as you are ) to my reluctance to pray for Hitchens because he asked that people don't pray for him. Woudl you say that's the same as your example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 [quote name='hot stuff' date='08 August 2010 - 01:36 AM' timestamp='1281245811' post='2153948'] KoC was referring (as you are ) to my reluctance to pray for Hitchens because he asked that people don't pray for him. Woudl you say that's the same as your example? [/quote] I am not referring to you at all. Can you please point out where I referred to you? You lost me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 (edited) Ugh double. Edited August 8, 2010 by HisChildForever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='08 August 2010 - 01:40 AM' timestamp='1281246024' post='2153952'] I am not referring to you at all. Can you please point out where I referred to you? You lost me. [/quote] Oh well my bad then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 [quote name='hot stuff' date='08 August 2010 - 01:41 AM' timestamp='1281246114' post='2153955'] Oh well my bad then. [/quote] Oh you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='08 August 2010 - 01:46 AM' timestamp='1281246397' post='2153956'] Oh you. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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