Dead Giveaways (Of A Linguistic Nature)

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='notardillacid' date='04 August 2010 - 03:49 PM' timestamp='1280954963' post='2152186']
I never said they couldn't. I just supplied Strunk and White's advice on the topic since their word carries a bit more weight than mine. Feel free to reject it. Who knows, maybe you will write a book on the language that becomes the standard.
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Strunk is such a cool name.

[Ed Normile]

[quote name='notardillacid' date='04 August 2010 - 03:07 PM' timestamp='1280952432' post='2152148']
Strunk and White agree with Iggy.


I see this all the time, but no one can cite any specific study showing wikipedia to be repeatedly inaccurate, whereas I can produce studies that show the opposite. [img]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/blink822/th_puker.gif[/img]
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Refute it yourself, look up "Only US President to be impeached" and instead of William Jefferson "Bill" Clinton it will, unless it has been recently changed, say Andrew Johnson, who actually beat impeachment by one vote, Clinton was impeached successfully, the only U.S. President, there have been 35 calls for impeachment, 9 that actually were tried, two that made it before the senate, and Johnson won and Clinton lost. Clinton was never prosecuted though, in effect they did not prosecute the impeachment. I just read a few weeks ago where a TV personality who spoofs web videos on a TV show changed Conan O'Brians wiki page to say he gave all his future show offers to him, they said it was up for a few days till Conan's staff seen it and re-edited the wiki page. I may go there and edit the wiki page about impeachments to add President Notar Dillacid was the third President to be impeached. Naw, I would hate for some poor kid to grow up believing this.

ed

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Ed Normile' date='04 August 2010 - 03:51 PM' timestamp='1280955097' post='2152193']
Refute it yourself, look up "Only US President to be impeached" and instead of William Jefferson "Bill" Clinton it will, unless it has been recently changed, say Andrew Johnson, who actually beat impeachment by one vote, Clinton was impeached successfully, the only U.S. President, there have been 35 calls for impeachment, 9 that actually were tried, two that made it before the senate, and Johnson won and Clinton lost. Clinton was never prosecuted though, in effect they did not prosecute the impeachment. I just read a few weeks ago where a TV personality who spoofs web videos on a TV show changed Conan O'Brians wiki page to say he gave all his future show offers to him, they said it was up for a few days till Conan's staff seen it and re-edited the wiki page. I may go there and edit the wiki page about impeachments to add President Notar Dillacid was the third President to be impeached. Naw, I would hate for some poor kid to grow up believing this.

ed
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I've tried maliciously editing Wikipedia before to see if any of it would go unnoticed. It always was reverted within minutes. Usually under five.

As to impeachment, here's what it says:

Two U.S. Presidents have been impeached: Andrew Johnson (trial)and Bill Clinton (trial). Both were acquitted at trial. Richard Nixon resigned in the face of the near certainty of his impeachment, which had already been approved by the House Judiciary Committee.
The Chief Justice of the United States presides during the Senate trial of a President.[4]


I'm not familiar with the impeachment process, but what I read on Johnson is that he was impeached but 'beat' the trial afterwards.
"The House agreed to the articles of impeachment on March 2, 1868. The trial began three days later in the Senate, with Supreme Court Chief Justice Salmon P. Chase presiding. Trial concluded on May 16 with Johnson's acquittal, the final count falling one vote shy of the required tally for conviction."

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='notardillacid' date='04 August 2010 - 04:49 PM' timestamp='1280954963' post='2152186']
I never said they couldn't. I just supplied Strunk and White's advice on the topic since their word carries a bit more weight than mine. Feel free to reject it. Who knows, maybe you will write a book on the language that becomes the standard.
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I do reject it, the use of Latin is encouraged by Mother Church, she does not urged its suppression. And she has a whole hemp of a lot more weight on the subject than two guys that will be footnotes in history in 100 years.

Edited August 4, 2010 by KnightofChrist

[ardillacid]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' date='04 August 2010 - 04:59 PM' timestamp='1280955558' post='2152199']
I do reject it, the use of Latin is encouraged by Mother Church, she does not urged its suppression. And she has a whole hemp of a lot more weight on the subject than two guys that will be footnotes in history in 100 years.
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Wow, I wasn't aware that Mother Church put out an English composition guide.

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='notardillacid' date='04 August 2010 - 05:15 PM' timestamp='1280956552' post='2152217']
Wow, I wasn't aware that Mother Church put out an English composition guide.
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She does not limit herself to the small little language of English, she encourages all the faithful of all the world to use Latin.

[Sojourner]

[quote name='Ed Normile' date='04 August 2010 - 02:51 PM' timestamp='1280955097' post='2152193']
Refute it yourself, look up "Only US President to be impeached" and instead of William Jefferson "Bill" Clinton it will, unless it has been recently changed, say Andrew Johnson, who actually beat impeachment by one vote, Clinton was impeached successfully, the only U.S. President, there have been 35 calls for impeachment, 9 that actually were tried, two that made it before the senate, and Johnson won and Clinton lost. Clinton was never prosecuted though, in effect they did not prosecute the impeachment. I just read a few weeks ago where a TV personality who spoofs web videos on a TV show changed Conan O'Brians wiki page to say he gave all his future show offers to him, they said it was up for a few days till Conan's staff seen it and re-edited the wiki page. I may go there and edit the wiki page about impeachments to add President Notar Dillacid was the third President to be impeached. Naw, I would hate for some poor kid to grow up believing this.

ed
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Johnson beat CONVICTION by one vote, after he was impeached. He and Clinton remain the only two presidents to have been impeached.

[ardillacid]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' date='04 August 2010 - 05:17 PM' timestamp='1280956658' post='2152218']
She does not limit herself to the small little language of English, she encourages all the faithful of all the world to use Latin.
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Does She encourage poor writing habits in native languages?

[quote name='Terra Firma' date='04 August 2010 - 05:23 PM' timestamp='1280957025' post='2152222']
Johnson beat CONVICTION by one vote, after he was impeached. He and Clinton remain the only two presidents to have been impeached.
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I knew lawyers might come in handy one day

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='notardillacid' date='04 August 2010 - 05:39 PM' timestamp='1280957997' post='2152241']
Does She encourage poor writing habits in native languages?
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Lege et lacrima

[Lil Red]

PLEASE GET BACK ON TOPIC.

[KnightofChrist]

I thought it was related to the topic being that Latin is [i]Linguistic[/i], and Latin is the tongue of Mother Church. But I shall cease if need be.

[Lil Red]

i thought the topic was about when someone is a non-Catholic and their terminology is a 'dead-giveaway' that they are not Catholic, not "What is better: Latin or English".

[Norseman82]

[quote name='Lil Red' date='04 August 2010 - 05:57 PM' timestamp='1280959043' post='2152258']
i thought the topic was about when someone is a non-Catholic and their terminology is a 'dead-giveaway' that they are not Catholic, not "What is better: Latin or English".
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Maybe the lack of such a debate over Latin vs. English is the dead giveaway?

[Ed Normile]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='04 August 2010 - 03:55 PM' timestamp='1280955330' post='2152194']
I've tried maliciously editing Wikipedia before to see if any of it would go unnoticed. It always was reverted within minutes. Usually under five.

As to impeachment, here's what it says:

Two U.S. Presidents have been impeached: Andrew Johnson (trial)and Bill Clinton (trial). Both were acquitted at trial. Richard Nixon resigned in the face of the near certainty of his impeachment, which had already been approved by the House Judiciary Committee.
The Chief Justice of the United States presides during the Senate trial of a President.[4]


I'm not familiar with the impeachment process, but what I read on Johnson is that he was impeached but 'beat' the trial afterwards.
"The House agreed to the articles of impeachment on March 2, 1868. The trial began three days later in the Senate, with Supreme Court Chief Justice Salmon P. Chase presiding. Trial concluded on May 16 with Johnson's acquittal, the final count falling one vote shy of the required tally for conviction."
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My point exactly, it has been changed to offer that Johnson beat impeachment by one vote, BUT, Clinton was impeached by a full vote of the senate members of the impeachment board. They left him in office and decided not to prosecute ( kick him out of office) as his term was near over and he was a lame duck President at the time anyway. So where they have posted "both were acquitted at trial" this is an error.

Uh, how would you say that in latin, and would that be any better to use latin?

ed

Edited August 4, 2010 by Ed Normile

[Hilde]

Maybe make a thread about it. It has popped up in other discussions as well. Just a suggestion.