Wikitiki Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 [quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' date='23 July 2010 - 03:39 AM' timestamp='1279870742' post='2146718'] Are you writing a mystery book? One of my many Catholic mystery books has a plot where a priest dies from drinking from the chalice, but because of the rules regarding proper and reverent treatment of the blood of Christ, the police are not allowed to remove the chalice from the altar, or do a poison check, because the wine has been consecrated and so is literally the blood of Christ. The master detective solves it. The archbishop's secretary (a priest) was the one who did it. He goes insane, thus saving the embarrassment of a trial. [/quote] Oh, that sounds interesting! (But you've spoiled the ending! XD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Perhaps we can trust that HCF's priest will chose an honorable and respectful means of handling the situation, and get back to rejoicing that HCF found Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
let_go_let_God Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 That's remarkable. Well done HCF! Is anyone else curious about what the priest's reaction is going to be? God bless- LGLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 [quote name='let_go_let_God' date='23 July 2010 - 07:50 AM' timestamp='1279893053' post='2146756'] That's remarkable. Well done HCF! Is anyone else curious about what the priest's reaction is going to be? God bless- LGLG [/quote] Yes. I hope she updates us when she gets back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 [quote name='hot stuff' date='22 July 2010 - 08:30 PM' timestamp='1279855820' post='2146562'] I've got to imagine that if it was in a pyx that it was accidentally dropped by a a priest, deacon or Eucharistic minister. I'm thinking that they are probably as distressed to losing it as you were to find it. (BTW great job on the rescue) would it be a bad idea to call a few parishes in the area and ask if they lost a pyx? You might bring some huge relief to somebody who is probably feeling awful right now! [/quote] YES! let us always think the best of people instead of automatically assuming the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 [quote name='KnightofChrist' date='22 July 2010 - 08:47 PM' timestamp='1279856842' post='2146582'] It is amazing the King of Heaven has found shelter in your house tonight. What a blessed opportunity, to be in the presence of the Lord God of Host! The most valuable treasure in the whole store, the entire mall, found hidden away in a drawer. Others would had to have seen Him also, but only the eyes of Faith could see Him. [/quote] nicely said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='22 July 2010 - 10:15 PM' timestamp='1279862109' post='2146625'] Yes I was thinking that our pastor may be able to narrow it down considerably. For example, when my dad looked at the Host he said the Host does not belong to our parish because our Host has a smaller cross. Our priests do rotate, and parishes help each other out during the summer months, so who knows. Even the pyx may look familiar. [/quote] perhaps it is a larger host used for Eucharistic Adoration? i know our larger hosts don't look like the smaller ones we distribute at Mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='22 July 2010 - 10:52 PM' timestamp='1279864371' post='2146654'] Why don't we leave what to do in the hands of someone who has the authority to make such a decision. [/quote] that sounds like a splendid idea. [quote name='notardillacid' date='22 July 2010 - 10:54 PM' timestamp='1279864462' post='2146655'] Because it's more fun to bicker on the internet? [/quote] [quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' date='22 July 2010 - 10:55 PM' timestamp='1279864559' post='2146658']I guess you could give the host to the nearest dog. JUST KIDDING!!![/quote] nice alluding to that other thread. [quote name='hot stuff' date='22 July 2010 - 10:56 PM' timestamp='1279864616' post='2146659']No There are reasons why Tabernacles are locked There are reasons why there are at least two people in the room whenever adoration occurs. There are reasons why a pyx is never to be left unattended. The biggest reason is that there is evil in the world that would want to desecrate our Lord. I'm not saying anything happened. Its most likely that it fell out of a priest/deacon/extraordinary minister's pocket and nobody knew what it was. What I'm saying is that if a priest decided that because it was not guarded, he wanted to treat it as if it were contaminated, it is not a disrespectful thing to do. Its done all the time.[/quote] so could you tell us (with Church documents) what are the proper procedures for the priest disposing of the Eucharist? like is there something in the GIRM? [quote name='Resurrexi' date='22 July 2010 - 11:33 PM' timestamp='1279866788' post='2146683']I used to make fun of Anglicans, then I realized that there were more then enough people in my own Church to ridicule. [/quote] that's kinda sad even if they deserve it (i'm thinking of clown Masses ) we should still pray for them to have a change of heart. [quote name='Marie-Therese' date='23 July 2010 - 12:12 AM' timestamp='1279869150' post='2146703']1. HCF was fortunate enough to recognize the pyx, rescue a potentially consecrated Host and to pay it adoration by keeping vigil with a small candle while it is in her custody. 2. She plans to return the pyx and Host to the custody of a parish as soon as humanly possible. 3. Once in custody of a priest, I am sure that he will accord the Host the due honor accorded to the Sacrament as a Catholic and as a minister of the Church, by whose proclamations he operates. Why can't we just have a thread that says YAY Jesus got rescued from the drawer at the mall and leave it at that? And thank you to HCF for treating Jesus like an honored guest in her home.[/quote] [size="6"][color="#4169E1"]YAY Jesus got rescued from the drawer at the mall [/color] and [color="#800080"]HCF is awesome for treating Jesus like an honored guest in her home![/color][/size] [quote name='HisChildForever' date='23 July 2010 - 12:16 AM' timestamp='1279869370' post='2146705']He is welcome any time. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 [quote name='Terra Firma' date='23 July 2010 - 06:36 AM' timestamp='1279892178' post='2146752']Perhaps we can trust that HCF's priest will chose an honorable and respectful means of handling the situation, and get back to rejoicing that HCF found Jesus. [/quote] [quote name='Slappo' date='23 July 2010 - 01:15 AM' timestamp='1279872903' post='2146733']anyways... I think we're all on the same page that unless something serious happened to the host or there was extreme reason to believe that the host was very dangerous to consume, the proper way of handling this particular host would be consuming.[/quote] yup let's stop with the bickering over the documents, because i truly believe that everyone is mostly on the same page, but talking past each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
let_go_let_God Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Thanks Red for all your enthusiasm. God bless- LGLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffpugh Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 [quote name='zunshynn' date='23 July 2010 - 02:01 AM' timestamp='1279864911' post='2146666'] A number of years ago, a non-Catholic woman came to Mother Angelica when she was giving a talk in some place in New York, and told her she had "something Catholic" she didn't know what to do with. She operated a retreat house of some kind, and at one point a priest celebrated mass and left hosts there, but then they had no priest come again for a long time, and being non-Catholic and having no idea what to do with them, eventually she saw they were spoiling, and buried them. When she heard Mother Angelica talking about the Blessed Sacrament, she realized that's what they were, and told Mother. Mother asked her to take her and show her where the hosts were so she did, and they dug them up. They were filthy, having been there for almost three years, but Reverend Mother and the priest that was with her carefully separated everything that they could identify as possibly being a part of a host and consumed everything. And with everything else, the dirt and the paper bag that they had been in, they burned it, and she placed the ashes in a small urn and then placed that inside the tabernacle cloister. Do you think she was worried about contamination? No. Did she know what had happened to them? No. What she did know was that her Lord and her Spouse was there, that this was the Bread of Angels and she could only think of doing reparation to Him. So that's what she did. THAT is respectful. THAT is how one treats the King of Kings. One does not "dispose" of Him because He "might be contaminated". [/quote] Seriously? Three years? That's a miracle in itself. Hosts aren't to be kept any longer than a month (ie, should be consumed after a month). If they were burried and rained on, they should have dissolved. I know a seminarian who told me about a break-in in a church and all the hosts were desecrated. They couldn't consume them (or at least, all of them), so they had to carefully pick them up, take them outside and bury them in the corner of the yard, then continually pour water over the place while saying prayers imploring forgiveness. So, from what I gather, there is ritual to dealing with consecrated hosts. The nit-picky theorists say that once the particles are dissolved and it no longer appears to be bread (I guess on a particle level), then it ceases being Christ. Is that about right? (I'm going off from memory from some hypothetical threads with Aloy and all those brainiacs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 [quote name='Sacred Music Man' date='23 July 2010 - 12:09 PM' timestamp='1279901374' post='2146795'] Seriously? Three years? That's a miracle in itself. Hosts aren't to be kept any longer than a month (ie, should be consumed after a month). If they were burried and rained on, they should have dissolved. I know a seminarian who told me about a break-in in a church and all the hosts were desecrated. They couldn't consume them (or at least, all of them), so they had to carefully pick them up, take them outside and bury them in the corner of the yard, then continually pour water over the place while saying prayers imploring forgiveness. So, from what I gather, there is ritual to dealing with consecrated hosts. The nit-picky theorists say that once the particles are dissolved and it no longer appears to be bread (I guess on a particle level), then it ceases being Christ. Is that about right? (I'm going off from memory from some hypothetical threads with Aloy and all those brainiacs). [/quote] I have serious doubts that story is anything more than an urban myth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffpugh Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 [quote name='hot stuff' date='23 July 2010 - 12:30 PM' timestamp='1279902653' post='2146803'] I have serious doubts that story is anything more than an urban myth [/quote] I got it straight from the horse's mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 [quote name='Sacred Music Man' date='23 July 2010 - 12:32 PM' timestamp='1279902766' post='2146804'] I got it straight from the horse's mouth. [/quote] Mother Angelica? seriously, a link would be awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgnatiusofLoyola Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 [quote name='Wikitiki' date='23 July 2010 - 08:30 AM' timestamp='1279891812' post='2146751'] Oh, that sounds interesting! (But you've spoiled the ending! XD) [/quote] Actually, in this book, while it was interesting WHO did it, the most interesting part was how he got the poison in the chalice. Now I'm going to have to go find the book, to remind myself how it was done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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