flip Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 could this ever be possible? think about it: an urban mass hymns to hip hop. Fr Pontifex administering and b boys for liturgical dance we must get some pardons from the bishop im sure... do yall think it could ever be done? first Life Teen... next Phatmass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
point5 Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 check your thread in the inner-faith discussion forum hip-hop mass = dope... not sure it will happen however Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricdisk Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 (edited) Dear God. Please do not make my masses hip hop. Amen. === (my personal opinion) Since the Mass is the sacrifice of Christ in an unbloody manner, I think it is (and always shall be) innappropriate. I guess I always think about Jesus being on the cross (in the fullness of time) and during the mass. There weren't people be-boppin and jammin (liturgical dance et al.) at the foot of the cross at cavalry. I think mass should be reverent and holy. Remember when the priests had their back to the people? They were offering Christ (once again) to his Father in heaven, just like the priests in the Old Testament. Now that they are facing the congregation, we have somehow forgotten that point.. Picture is on its way! === Aftermass? Jump up and down and have a party! (but not in the church, cause people are still praying) Edited April 15, 2004 by electricdisk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricdisk Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 [img]http://www.electricdisk.com/ebay/mass.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin_the_MASS Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 [quote name='electricdisk' date='Apr 15 2004, 07:03 PM'][img]http://www.electricdisk.com/ebay/mass.jpg[/img][/quote] Flip, There is a time for hip hop, then a time to lock and drop on our knees begging Father Please! Mass is Sacred and will always stay this way I agree with electricdisk! In the love of Christ Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatholicCrusader Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 [quote]could this ever be possible? think about it: an urban mass hymns to hip hop. Fr Pontifex administering and b boys for liturgical dance we must get some pardons from the bishop im sure... do yall think it could ever be done? first Life Teen... next Phatmass![/quote] Considering what Life Teen does, that COULD happen, NOT validly or licitly, of course. That would never be possible considering what Vatican II said about the Mass. That would be sacrilegious to do. [quote]There is a time for hip hop, then a time to lock and drop on our knees begging Father Please![/quote] There is never a time for hip-hop... That picture/explanation from the Baltimore Catechism is beautiful. God bless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin_the_MASS Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 (edited) What do you mean CC? [quote]There is never a time for hip-hop...[/quote] Edited April 16, 2004 by Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin_the_MASS Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Bump for cc! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatholicCrusader Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Hip-hop and the "hip-hop culture" is in direct opposition to Faith and even anything that can be considered art or fulfilling or edifying. The Pastor at my church gave a great sermon on this one Sunday, about how music can be wrong for lyrics (which most "hip hop" is) OR by the medium over which it is played can be disedifying and therefore, wrong to listen to. He always has very good sermons, including about why women have an obligation to wear veils to Mass and in the Presence of the Blessed Sacrament as well as on modesty. His sermons are beginning to be put online (text, not in audio). The website is www.francisdesales.com. The only sermon up as of right now is form the [url="http://www.francisdesales.com/articles/sermon_chattanooga_020104.htm"]Fourth Sunday after the Epiphany[/url]. I hope that his sermon on music will be posted soon. God bless you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livin_the_MASS Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 [quote name='CatholicCrusader' date='Apr 15 2004, 07:54 PM'] Hip-hop and the "hip-hop culture" is in direct opposition to Faith and even anything that can be considered art or fulfilling or edifying. The Pastor at my church gave a great sermon on this one Sunday, about how music can be wrong for lyrics (which most "hip hop" is) OR by the medium over which it is played can be disedifying and therefore, wrong to listen to. He always has very good sermons, including about why women have an obligation to wear veils to Mass and in the Presence of the Blessed Sacrament as well as on modesty. His sermons are beginning to be put online (text, not in audio). The website is www.francisdesales.com. The only sermon up as of right now is form the [url="http://www.francisdesales.com/articles/sermon_chattanooga_020104.htm"]Fourth Sunday after the Epiphany[/url]. I hope that his sermon on music will be posted soon. God bless you. [/quote] Dust has made it clear that this music is seperate from liturgical abuses. It is for Outside of Mass. Mass is Sacred Yes. But this music is not wrong in anyway shape or form. God can use anything He wants to proclaim the Truth to people. So since Dust has made it clear that this music does not and will not be used in the liturgy what is your point. This music is awesome and can touch a lot of people Outside of the Holy Mass. It will actually bring them to it if you ask me! Clear it up further if you do not agree CC! God Bless Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 [quote]Hip-hop and the "hip-hop culture" is in direct opposition to Faith and even anything that can be considered art or fulfilling or edifying. [/quote] CatholicCrusader, I respectfully disagree. Please see linked article below. [url="http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/0...s.ap/index.html"]Click Here - The Pope Loves Hip-Hop![/url] Peace, Love...and Hip-Hop, Apollo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
follow_the_pelican Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Gosh "flip", looks like you came to the wrong thread to push that idea. I side with electricdisk on this one. Hit the head on the nail, B.C. was a nice touch. As for life teen, I dont know if I am walking on thin ice, but I dont agree with a lot of there jazz. The whole circling around the alter, standing during the consecration, come on now. Please tell me that is not @ the very least disrespectfull. Any way, your thoughts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 I love hip-hop, but I love the sacredness of the Mass more. I'd rather hear organs and choirs really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
follow_the_pelican Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 YUP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dUSt Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Hip-hop has no place in the mass. Before mass? Sure. After mass? Sure. During mass? No. If phatmass is ever used as any type of tool to introduce hip-hop into the liturgy, I will shut it down. Period. I love hip-hop, but like Just said, the Sacred Liturgy takes priority. Any phatmass produced project in the future will have the following on the cover: [color=red][b]Not To Be Used In The Liturgy[/b][/color] There are plenty of places to use hip-hop as a form of catechesis in the Church, like rallies, retreats, etc, etc. There's no need to try and change the Mass. God bless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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