MissScripture Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 [quote name='MIkolbe' date='16 July 2010 - 04:05 PM' timestamp='1279310732' post='2143580'] murder works for me.... [/quote] You would have the consequence of murder be murder? Or did you mean something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 [quote name='JimR-OCDS' date='16 July 2010 - 02:45 PM' timestamp='1279309522' post='2143573'] If you were a member of congress and were to draw up a piece of legislation to make abortion illegal, what would you have for a penalty, for those who violate the law? This includes both the mother and the people who provided the abortion. Jim [/quote] Ooh, are we going to have *this* debate again??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKolbe Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 [quote name='MissScripture' date='16 July 2010 - 04:07 PM' timestamp='1279310825' post='2143581'] You would have the consequence of murder be murder? Or did you mean something else? [/quote] i mentioned consequences? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKolbe Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 whoops.. sorry.. i think jim edited his question as i answered the pre-edited one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissScripture Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 [quote name='MIkolbe' date='16 July 2010 - 04:42 PM' timestamp='1279312932' post='2143604'] i mentioned consequences? [/quote] Okay, penalty. Sorry, I used the wrong word. What I was trying to ask was what are you saying? That the penalty for abortion should be murder, or should it be the same as murder or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissScripture Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 (edited) double post Edited July 16, 2010 by MissScripture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKolbe Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 in answer to his edited question.. i really have no idea. but then, i have no idea of the penalty of numerous crimes like theft, grand theft, mayhem, reckless endangerment, slander, libel, and just about every other crime.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissScripture Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 [quote name='MIkolbe' date='16 July 2010 - 04:43 PM' timestamp='1279313031' post='2143607'] whoops.. sorry.. i think jim edited his question as i answered the pre-edited one. [/quote] Oh, okay. Thanks for the clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKolbe Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 [quote name='MissScripture' date='16 July 2010 - 04:45 PM' timestamp='1279313124' post='2143609'] double post [/quote] read post 64, i think we had some miscommunication... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissScripture Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 [quote name='MIkolbe' date='16 July 2010 - 04:46 PM' timestamp='1279313188' post='2143612'] read post 64, i think we had some miscommunication... [/quote] Yup, I'm all caught up on the edits and such. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 [quote name='JimR-OCDS' date='16 July 2010 - 03:45 PM' timestamp='1279309522' post='2143573'] If you were a member of congress and were to draw up a piece of legislation to make abortion illegal, what would you have for a penalty, for those who violate the law? This includes both the mother and the people who provided the abortion. Jim [/quote] [img]https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/photos/photo27/4d/2e/539d9f24c861__1279483230000.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 [quote name='Winchester' date='18 July 2010 - 10:36 PM' timestamp='1279510611' post='2144652'] [img]https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/photos/photo27/4d/2e/539d9f24c861__1279483230000.jpg[/img] [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimR-OCDS Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 OK, so no one answered the question, which is the usual response from those who demand that abortion should be illegal. Laws are meaningless if there are no penalties for violating them. Pretty much the way Bishop Tobin was unable to answer, when asked the same question by Chris Matthews. We demand that legislators outlaw abortion, but have no answer on how they should make such a law enforceable. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 [quote name='JimR-OCDS' date='19 July 2010 - 01:29 PM' timestamp='1279564199' post='2144974'] OK, so no one answered the question, which is the usual response from those who demand that abortion should be illegal. Laws are meaningless if there are no penalties for violating them. Pretty much the way Bishop Tobin was unable to answer, when asked the same question by Chris Matthews. We demand that legislators outlaw abortion, but have no answer on how they should make such a law enforceable. Jim [/quote] We already have penalties. The wages of sin is death. We want to change secular law to reflect the moral law. You want to change the moral law to reflect trendy secular tendencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimR-OCDS Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='19 July 2010 - 03:50 PM' timestamp='1279565452' post='2144984'] We already have penalties. The wages of sin is death. We want to change secular law to reflect the moral law. You want to change the moral law to reflect trendy secular tendencies. [/quote] If you want to change the secular law to reflect moral law, then you have to have penalties for those who break the law, otherwise its meaningless. I have no desire to change moral law, how'd you come up with that? The topic of this thread is whether we should keep abortion legal or not. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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