The Ppc

[Indwelling Trinity]

[quote name='JTheresa' date='07 July 2010 - 07:39 PM' timestamp='1278542350' post='2139062']
As for a community chapel, I've taken the liberty to start with one of the many smaller ones:

This one shall be called Our Lady of the Angels
[img]http://www.bouguereau.org/Notre-Dame-des-Anges-%28Our-Lady-of-the-Angels%29.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.franciscan.edu/imagebase/CampusLife/Chapel/port1.jpg[/img]

[img]http://douglawrence.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/portiuncula.jpg[/img]


Of course, the main chapel should be a collaboration of the many diverse members of the community.
And because of our great devotion to Saint Joseph, might I suggest that the main chapel be dedicated to him?
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[Indwelling Trinity]

[quote name='JTheresa' date='07 July 2010 - 07:39 PM' timestamp='1278542350' post='2139062']
As for a community chapel, I've taken the liberty to start with one of the many smaller ones:

This one shall be called Our Lady of the Angels
[img]http://www.bouguereau.org/Notre-Dame-des-Anges-%28Our-Lady-of-the-Angels%29.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.franciscan.edu/imagebase/CampusLife/Chapel/port1.jpg[/img]

[img]http://douglawrence.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/portiuncula.jpg[/img]


Of course, the main chapel should be a collaboration of the many diverse members of the community.
And because of our great devotion to Saint Joseph, might I suggest that the main chapel be dedicated to him?
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OOOOOH! I'll Take the stone chapel and name it Our Lady of Bethlehem! Droools...... and live there as a recluse!

[IgnatiusofLoyola]

[quote name='Indwelling Trinity' date='11 July 2010 - 09:46 AM' timestamp='1278859614' post='2141178']
OOOOOH! I'll Take the stone chapel and name it Our Lady of Bethlehem! Droools...... and live there as a recluse!
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It's so good to hear from you!!

If you would honor us with your presence in our idealistic (and unfortunately imaginary) community, we would somehow find a way to get you a beautiful old stone chapel, where you could live if you wanted, or we could fix up a hermitage for you--wood, stone, whatever you preferred, that provided whatever you needed. There has been a lot of interest in having an old stone chapel, so others might want to visit there, too, but we'd find a way not to intrude on your privacy, and you wouldn't have any more visitors than you wanted.

But, I hope you wouldn't be totally reclusive. There is so much we can learn from you, and you give so much more to than you realize. To be ideal, our community needs you!

I've been sorry to hear that your health hasn't been good, and that you have been in and out of the hospital. For someone who is used to being alone most of the time (and likes it that way), a hospital stay must be an awful burden, just at a time when you you already have too many burdens.

I remember hating being in the hospital after surgery awhile back. To my relief, the hospital had only private rooms. But, even with a private room, there was noise from visitors to nearby rooms, and someone was always coming by to DO something to me. It was anything but restful and healing. I'm used to the quiet of living alone (and like it). You hear stories of people being kicked out of hospitals too soon, but after being in the hospital for a few days, I begged to go home, although my doctor would have preferred I stay an extra day.

Our prayers are with you--I hope you know that. And, in the meantime, we'll fix up a place for you in our imaginary "heaven on earth."

Note: One suggestion I've made is that our community be named "Our Lady of Peace." Although, somewhat irreverant, I sometimes think that the name that would better describe the ideal community for me would be more like, "Our Lady of Peace and Quiet."

Take care, and we hope you post as often as you can.

[vee]

[quote name='Indwelling Trinity' date='11 July 2010 - 09:46 AM' timestamp='1278859614' post='2141178']
....... and live there as a recluse!
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That'd be awesome!! I could come by with my little friend

[img]http://www.idwerx.com/supersoaker/2002_product/maxd/maxd_images/maxd6000_angle_450.jpg[/img]

Edited July 11, 2010 by vee8

[IgnatiusofLoyola]

[quote name='vee8' date='11 July 2010 - 12:26 PM' timestamp='1278869191' post='2141208']
That'd be awesome!! I could come by with my little friend [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/ninja.gif[/img]

[img]http://www.idwerx.com/supersoaker/2002_product/maxd/maxd_images/maxd6000_angle_450.jpg[/img]
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Wow Vee8, you Carmelites are hard core! I would have simply asked the community to respect IT's privacy, with maybe a sign if that didn't work.

Are you sure you're not a Jesuit? Soldier of Christ, and all that?

Note: If you intend to bring that with you into cloistered Carmelite life, I'd suggest saving the space in your luggage, because I doubt most Superiors consider high-power water guns to be standard issue for postulants. On the other hand, the Superior might want it to use on you when you get out of line! [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/P.gif[/img]

[vee]

[quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' date='11 July 2010 - 05:29 PM' timestamp='1278887393' post='2141327']
Wow Vee8, you Carmelites are hard core! I would have simply asked the community to respect IT's privacy, with maybe a sign if that didn't work.

Are you sure you're not a Jesuit? Soldier of Christ, and all that?

Note: If you intend to bring that with you into cloistered Carmelite life, I'd suggest saving the space in your luggage, because I doubt most Superiors consider high-power water guns to be standard issue for postulants. On the other hand, the Superior might want it to use on you when you get out of line! [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/P.gif[/img]
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Im sure IT would be sitting by ready with the garden hose and/or a bucket of water to counter any attack! To be a real soldier of Christ I could fill it with holy water You know just to make sure everyone is adequately blessed As for taking a water gun to the convent I know that if I did they, as you said, wouldn't hesitate to turn it on me! That's why in real life I wouldn't take it buuuuut at the PPC .....

[Indwelling Trinity]

[quote name='JTheresa' date='07 July 2010 - 09:44 PM' timestamp='1278549862' post='2139118']
Finally!! I found a decent picture of a cell:

[img]http://www.carmelslc.org/pk3bu.jpg[/img]

It's just missing a desk.
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ahhh........... Home Sweet Home!

[Indwelling Trinity]

[quote name='MaterMisericordiae' date='09 July 2010 - 09:51 AM' timestamp='1278679873' post='2139823']
St. Teresa of the Andes actually died of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhus"]typhus[/url].

And Bl. Elizabeth of the Trinity had complications from [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addison%27s_disease"]Addison's Disease[/url]--a very painful illness to which there was no cure in the early 20th century. As you can see in her later pictures before she passed, she lost so much weight.

Before:
[img]http://www.stl-ocds.org/podcast/images/elizabeth2.jpg[/img]

After:

[img]http://feastofsaints.com/eliztrinity1.jpg[/img]


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My Big Sister!

[vee]

We at the PPC have nowhere to eat. . This may not be a problem for the Dominicans who are busy reading but I at least need to read and eat so it's refectory design time
Speaking of Dominicans we have this and btw MM those are the Nashville Dominicans For more pics of their motherhouse see here http://nashvilledominican.org/Community/Motherhouse_Tour

[img]http://nashvilledominican.org/img/copyimg/images/mht_Refectory_A.gif[/img]

Edited July 13, 2010 by vee8

[vee]

Some Benedictines in England
[img]http://www.churchtimes.co.uk/uploads/images/p17_nuns%20eating%231%23.jpg[/img]

The article I got the pic from
http://www.churchtimes.co.uk/content.asp?id=83893

[OnlySunshine]

[quote name='vee8' date='13 July 2010 - 07:17 PM' timestamp='1279063072' post='2142251']
We at the PPC have nowhere to eat. . This may not be a problem for the Dominicans who are busy reading but I at least need to read and eat so it's refectory design time
Speaking of Dominicans we have this and btw MM those are the Nashville Dominicans For more pics of their motherhouse see here http://nashvilledominican.org/Community/Motherhouse_Tour

[img]http://nashvilledominican.org/img/copyimg/images/mht_Refectory_A.gif[/img]
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LOVE IT!

You know, I never thought I'd go for a big community, but after watching [i]Beloved[/i], and seeing how close all the Sisters are despite the size of the order, I realized that it doesn't matter the size. It's all about serving God.

[IgnatiusofLoyola]

Looking at the wood floor of the Dominican's refectory reminded me that I was going to suggest that all the floors in the Monastery be wood, except maybe for a few places where stone would be more appropriate. No linoleum. It's a way to be beautiful and simple. I like the Domicans wood floor, tables, and chairs.

However, the Dominican's refectory is a pretty stark white. Even some wood paneling at the windows would help make it look warmer. I'm not saying there should be a lot of "stuff" in the refectory--it should still be basically simple, if only because that makes it easier to keep clean. But I like the fact that the light fixtures in the Benedictine refectory are just a little different. What about a few plants in the refectory? In terms of decorating the walls, I think we may already be overrun with paintings and statues already. As much as I like St. Thomas, I can see someone suggesting that we put the all pictures of St. Thomas that didn't fit in the library onto the walls of the refectory. (My "secret" plan is that if someone tries to fill the library with pictures of St. Thomas, or plaster busts, one day everyone will find a different picture of St. Thomas in her cell. Vee8 gets the picture where St. Thomas is older, and doesn't look his best. (It will help remind her that it's going to happen to her, too, someday.) Note: Your pictures of libraries are gorgeous--I love them. But, they are way too big for the size of our community, and unfortunately they aren't practical. Gorgeous, but cold and damp. And, as much as I love books, I feel the chapel should be larger than the library.

I confess that I am not a fan of "kitsch," so if there are too many plastic statues around, I may be more "accidentally clumsy" than I naturally am already. I'd rather have a plain side table than one with a plastic blinking lighted bleeding heart of Jesus. I feel as if Jesus and Mary deserve better--at minimum they deserve a home in simple good taste. So the pink and blue, Virgin Mary night-lights in everyone's cell are a no-go. They use up too much electricity anyway. If someone is concerned about finding her way to the bathroom at night, she can use a plain, wind-up, no-battery-needed flashlight like I use at home. (LL Bean catalog) [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif[/img]

I've been busy with other projects the past couple of weeks, but with any luck I will have some time soon to spend looking at pictures on the Internet. Since I'm not a decorator or artist, I have a hard time creating a beautiful room in my head and describing it well. But, I can recognize one if I see a picture. So, I can make some positive suggestions, and you can make changes to my ideas for a change.

[vee]

[quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' date='13 July 2010 - 09:51 PM' timestamp='1279075874' post='2142339']

(My "secret" plan is that if someone tries to fill the library with pictures of St. Thomas, or plaster busts, one day everyone will find a different picture of St. Thomas in her cell. Vee8 gets the picture where St. Thomas is older, and doesn't look his best. (It will help remind her that it's going to happen to her, too, someday.)

I confess that I am not a fan of "kitsch," so if there are too many plastic statues around, I may be more "accidentally clumsy" than I naturally am already. I'd rather have a plain side table than one with a plastic blinking lighted bleeding heart of Jesus. I feel as if Jesus and Mary deserve better--at minimum they deserve a home in simple good taste. So the pink and blue, Virgin Mary night-lights in everyone's cell are a no-go. They use up too much electricity anyway. If someone is concerned about finding her way to the bathroom at night, she can use a plain, wind-up, no-battery-needed flashlight like I use at home. (LL Bean catalog) [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif[/img]

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if that painting of Thomas ends up in my cell you're getting St Jerome! i might sneak in a St Therese too Its not his age thats the problem with that pic it's his expression!
Yes to wood and stone floors, no to kitsch and pink and blue Mary nightlights! On the Nashville Dominicans site I was looking at the pics of the dormitory and thinking I'd need way more privacy. I'm not shy or something like that it's rather the need for quiet time alone for prayer, so if the PPC has dorms you won't find me living in there! I will be involved in all dorm pillow fights though!

[OnlySunshine]

[quote name='vee8' date='13 July 2010 - 11:22 PM' timestamp='1279077728' post='2142348']
On the Nashville Dominicans site I was looking at the pics of the dormitory and thinking I'd need way more privacy. I'm not shy or something like that it's rather the need for quiet time alone for prayer, so if the PPC has dorms you won't find me living in there! I will be involved in all dorm pillow fights though!
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That's a downside for me too. I like my room to retreat to and have silence. Hopefully, they have rules in the postulant dormitories that allow for silence so one can meditate and pray.

[JTheresa]

IgnatiusofLoyola's personal chapel ( maybe a little smaller )

[img]http://images.travelpod.com/users/chickensafloat/carribean_tour.1172400180.convent_of_st_jerome.jpg[/img]

The Convent of Saint Jerome's main chapel.


Might still be a little too grand for a convent.