Lil Red Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 [quote name='Tony' date='27 July 2010 - 04:00 PM' timestamp='1280271603' post='2148887'] indie music is your friend [/quote] agreed - true indie music i know you've got my back on this, tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='22 July 2010 - 10:30 AM' timestamp='1279816211' post='2146325'] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9IfHDi-2EA[/media] [/quote] Big Johnny Cash fan here. BIG fan. He even did a children's album, which is outstanding. As for Christian music in general ... I grew up with overprotective parents who wanted to keep us from sullying our minds with secular music. I listened to a lot of Steven Curtis Chapman, Amy Grant, and Michael W. Smith when I was growing up, and was SO SAD when Amy put out a secular record. SO SAD. Then, I discovered real music, and I have never looked back. There was a time I felt betrayed, because so many Christians think that "good" music just doesn't have anything objectionable in it, and mentions Jesus every so often. The standards are all wrong. The other thing I found objectionable (which was true 10-15 years ago) was how obsessively Christian bands tried to mimic the sound of popular secular bands. I went to a Protestant church once that had a poster up listing a bunch of secular bands, and then corresponding Christian bands. Whatever. There are a handful of Christian bands/singers I listen to now. I've liked a couple of Mat Kearney's songs, for example. And I have a few older songs on my ipod as well. I listen to them when I am feeling nostalgic. But by and large, I find Christian songs sappy and vapid. Many P&W songs are so saccharine they make me want to vomit. Someone gave us a Christian lullaby CD for JT's baptism, and I listened to it once. I can't bring myself to throw it away right away, but it is sooooo sappy. I feel like I'd be doing my child a disservice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Terra Firma' date='28 July 2010 - 01:57 PM' timestamp='1280339856' post='2149131'] Big Johnny Cash fan here. BIG fan. He even did a children's album, which is outstanding. [/quote] I like how a lot of Johnny Cash songs (or songs he covers)have Christian themes, without coming off as fake, forced, or preachy. I think that's how "Christian music" should be, where the musician's faith works its way into the music naturally, rather than being forced or "tacked-on." [quote]As for Christian music in general ... I grew up with overprotective parents who wanted to keep us from sullying our minds with secular music. I listened to a lot of Steven Curtis Chapman, Amy Grant, and Michael W. Smith when I was growing up, and was SO SAD when Amy put out a secular record. SO SAD. Then, I discovered real music, and I have never looked back. There was a time I felt betrayed, because so many Christians think that "good" music just doesn't have anything objectionable in it, and mentions Jesus every so often. The standards are all wrong. The other thing I found objectionable (which was true 10-15 years ago) was how obsessively Christian bands tried to mimic the sound of popular secular bands. I went to a Protestant church once that had a poster up listing a bunch of secular bands, and then corresponding Christian bands. [/quote] I got some good laughs from my wife's old Stryper CD from the '80s which I found lying around. Guess they were trying to be the godly answer to Motley Crue or something. I actually had more fun with the band photos on the booklet - four girly-men in glam make-up, tight black-and-yellow leather, and about ten tons of hairspray. The music was mostly sort of p&w with pop-metal guitar licks thrown in and that effeminately-high hair-band vocal style popular back in the day. (Incidentally, I wonder how many times they had to explain that they're not pronounced "Stripper.") Edited July 28, 2010 by Socrates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 [quote name='Socrates' date='28 July 2010 - 03:31 PM' timestamp='1280352666' post='2149244'] I like how a lot of Johnny Cash songs (or songs he covers)have Christian themes, without coming off as fake, forced, or preachy. I think that's how "Christian music" should be, where the musician's faith works its way into the music naturally, rather than being forced or "tacked-on." I got some good laughs from my wife's old Stryper CD from the '80s which I found lying around. Guess they were trying to be the godly answer to Motley Crue or something. I actually had more fun with the band photos on the booklet - four girly-men in glam make-up, tight black-and-yellow leather, and about ten tons of hairspray. The music was mostly sort of p&w with pop-metal guitar licks thrown in and that effeminately-high hair-band vocal style popular back in the day. (Incidentally, I wonder how many times they had to explain that they're not pronounced "Stripper.") [/quote] Never got into Stryper, although I had friends that did. Incidentally my first live concert was a Christian concert (Carmen, anyone?). Now I laugh, but back then I was so earnest about it ... I agree about preferring music that is a real reflection of an artist's experience, rather than a fakey sappy forced faith. One of my all-time favorite videos is Cash's cover of "Hurt." It is, I think, a poignant and beautiful work of art. I have really enjoyed all the "American" releases. Some of the best music ever recorded, in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 [quote name='Socrates' date='28 July 2010 - 04:31 PM' timestamp='1280352666' post='2149244'] I like how a lot of Johnny Cash songs (or songs he covers)have Christian themes, without coming off as fake, forced, or preachy. I think that's how "Christian music" should be, where the musician's faith works its way into the music naturally, rather than being forced or "tacked-on." [/quote] That's the difference between legit Gospel music (by which Johnny Cash was definitely hugely influenced) and modern 'Christian rock', IMO. Old-school Gospel is genuine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='28 July 2010 - 07:00 PM' timestamp='1280358013' post='2149286'] That's the difference between legit Gospel music (by which Johnny Cash was definitely hugely influenced) and modern 'Christian rock', IMO. Old-school Gospel is genuine. [/quote] I agree. Cash has done some good gospel stuff. (Should check out the original "American Recordings" CD). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 [quote name='Socrates' date='29 July 2010 - 12:22 PM' timestamp='1280424140' post='2149506'] I agree. Cash has done some good gospel stuff. (Should check out the original "American Recordings" CD). [/quote] Also on his Unearthed box set, the fifth disc is entirely old-time Gospel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardillacid Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 in my not-humble-at-all-opinion it is stupid to dismiss an entire genre based off of some bands you hear. Most Christian Rock bands would not agree with me, but there are some that are good in my not at all humble opinion. Maylene and the sons of disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin31 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 (edited) Fun fact: Whenever this thread appears as the most recent on the main forum page, the thread title gets shortened to "Does Anyone Not Like Christ....". It's a *bit* startling. Edited July 31, 2010 by penguin31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardillacid Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 [quote name='Socrates' date='29 July 2010 - 01:22 PM' timestamp='1280424140' post='2149506'] I agree. Cash has done some good gospel stuff. (Should check out the original "American Recordings" CD). [/quote] Yes I like people who talk over guitars too!@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 [quote name='notardillacid' date='30 July 2010 - 11:45 PM' timestamp='1280551557' post='2150164'] Yes I like people who talk over guitars too!@ [/quote] [img]http://4.media.tumblr.com/bGjfANdAGj9t1y81lIVqe3uKo1_400.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardillacid Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='31 July 2010 - 12:59 AM' timestamp='1280552358' post='2150175'] [img]http://4.media.tumblr.com/bGjfANdAGj9t1y81lIVqe3uKo1_400.gif[/img] [/quote] I am a hater, and I am going to hate. You should know this by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardillacid Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='31 July 2010 - 12:59 AM' timestamp='1280552358' post='2150175'] [img]http://4.media.tumblr.com/bGjfANdAGj9t1y81lIVqe3uKo1_400.gif[/img] [/quote] [img]http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/tdomf/137163/haters-700x495.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Out of curiosity, do you actually know who we mean when we talk about Johnny Cash? Just checkin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardillacid Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='31 July 2010 - 03:04 AM' timestamp='1280559850' post='2150216'] Out of curiosity, do you actually know who we mean when we talk about Johnny Cash? Just checkin'. [/quote] Yeah, that dude who ripped off Trent Reznor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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