Criticisms Of Political Correctness Here Are Silly

[ardillacid]

[quote name='Hassan' date='18 June 2010 - 05:31 PM' timestamp='1276896716' post='2131055']
As they are elsewhere.

Why?

Because there is no objective standard of what constitutes 'political correctness' that is consistently used by those who invoke or criticize it.

[/quote]
Do you believe that if there is not an objective standard for something, you should never use it?

[Hassan]

[quote name='notardillacid' date='18 June 2010 - 08:10 PM' timestamp='1276906229' post='2131130']
Do you believe that if there is not an objective standard for something, you should never use it?
[/quote]

No.

[goldenchild17]

nvm. I didn't realize this thread had become lame already

Edited June 19, 2010 by goldenchild17

[Hassan]

[quote name='goldenchild17' date='18 June 2010 - 08:19 PM' timestamp='1276906782' post='2131134']
nvm. I didn't realize this thread had become lame already
[/quote]

It's not dead yet.

[SaintOfVirtue]

Is it just me or...

is there no spoon?

[goldenchild17]

[quote name='Hassan' date='18 June 2010 - 06:26 PM' timestamp='1276907177' post='2131135']
It's not dead yet.
[/quote]

It's getting there. But I agree with your post. Hypocrisy does nothing good in this case.

[Marie-Therese]

[quote name='Lil Red' date='18 June 2010 - 05:54 PM' timestamp='1276898087' post='2131078']
i knew it!! you're a Ginger-ist!! you discriminate against Redheads!! Just wait until M-T finds out about this!!
[/quote]

Since Lil Red and myself are the reigning Ginger Queens of Phatmass, I hereby declare Hassan a material heretic and thus duly suspend his cookie privilege (which is sad, since I had the perfect recipe picked out) and it will remain suspended until further notice.

Btw, no one has a right NOT to be offended. However, I do have the right to slam the banhammer on cookie shipments. Something to ponder, whilst listing all the laments of the anti-PC crowd.

[ardillacid]

[quote name='Hassan' date='18 June 2010 - 08:12 PM' timestamp='1276906322' post='2131131']
No.
[/quote]
well it's always a good thing to start off a arguement with something you don't beilieve in. That's what momma alwus says

[quote]As they are elsewhere.

Why?

Because there is no objective standard of what constitutes 'political correctness' that is consistently used by those who invoke or criticize it. [/quote]

Edited June 19, 2010 by notardillacid

[Semper Catholic]

1. See relevant interesting thread
2. Million sarcastic thread derailing replies
3. ???????
4. PROFIT

[MIKolbe]

obviously Hassan is wrong.

and a left wing, bleeding heart, hippie liberal...which is part of the reason he is wrong.

[Hassan]

[quote name='Marie-Therese' date='19 June 2010 - 12:04 AM' timestamp='1276920285' post='2131225']
Since Lil Red and myself are the reigning Ginger Queens of Phatmass, I hereby declare Hassan a material heretic and thus duly suspend his cookie privilege (which is sad, since I had the perfect recipe picked out) and it will remain suspended until further notice.

Btw, no one has a right NOT to be offended. However, I do have the right to slam the banhammer on cookie shipments. Something to ponder, whilst listing all the laments of the anti-PC crowd.
[/quote]



Oh Peyton,




You've cried wolf too many times.



"Oh, Hassan! If you're good I'll give you cookies"

"Oh! See keep this attitude up and you have cookies soon!"


"Ok! Cookies! Send me your adress and type of cookies!"




That was almost two months ago.



I don't even live at the address I gave you anymore.



I gave up all hope of ever getting cookies weeks ago.




Plus, the pace of Spring Semester and the crappy diet I had to go on during summer school (Pretty much spaghetti and Cheerios with some meat every other day or so and no cookies((Except when Emily and her friends had me over for some that one time at the end))) and no time to work out, I'm now out of shape. Yesterday was the last day I will be eating sweets for at least until school starts back up in late August. It's a shame. Your promises of cookies combined with my concern that you thought I needed to be a better person led me to adjust my behavior here. So much so that I raised my rep from -50 to +10. Now, all that seems to be in vain.

Of course, my view of you as a friend remains in tact, however the cookies powers you once had over me are now utterly shattered.

Pechorin, in Mikhail Lemontov's "A Hero of Our Time" faced a very simmilar fate.
[i]
I thought for a moment and then said, taking on a deeply touched face: "Yes, such has been my lot since childhood. Everyone read signs of non-existent evil traits in my features. But since they were expected to be there, they did make their appearance. Because I was reserved, they said I was sly, so I grew reticent. I was keenly aware of good and evil, but instead of being indulged I was insulted and so I became spiteful. I was sulky while other children were merry and talkative, but though I felt superior to them I was considered inferior. So I grew envious. I was ready to love the whole world, but no one understood me, and I learned to hate. My cheerless youth passed in conflict with myself and society, and fearing ridicule I buried my finest feelings deep in my heart, and there they died. I spoke the truth, but nobody believed me, so I began to practice duplicity. Having come to know society and its mainsprings, I became versed in the art of living and saw how others were happy without that proficiency, enjoying for free the favors I had so painfully striven for. It was then that despair was born in my heart--not the despair that is cured with a pistol, but a cold, impotent desperation, concealed under a polite exterior and a good-natured smile. I became a moral cripple; I had lost one half of my soul, for it had shriveled, dried up and died, and I had cut it off and cast it away, while the other half stirred and lived, adapted to serve every comer. No one noticed this, because no one suspected there had been another half. Now, however, you have awakened memories of it in me, and what I have just done is to read its epitaph to you. Many regard all epitaphs as ridiculous, but I do not, particularly when I remember what rests beneath them. Of course, I am not asking you to share my opinion; if what I have said seems ridiculous to you, please laugh, though I warn you that it will not annoy me in the slightest." [/i]



I trusted your cookie promises, and that trust was returned only with betrayal and mockery.

[Hassan]

[quote name='notardillacid' date='19 June 2010 - 12:25 AM' timestamp='1276921525' post='2131238']
well it's always a good thing to start off a arguement with something you don't beilieve in. That's what momma alwus says
[/quote]


My opening doesn't contradict my answer to you.

[Marie-Therese]

[quote name='Hassan' date='19 June 2010 - 12:08 PM' timestamp='1276963698' post='2131444']
Oh Peyton,




You've cried wolf too many times.



"Oh, Hassan! If you're good I'll give you cookies"

"Oh! See keep this attitude up and you have cookies soon!"


"Ok! Cookies! Send me your adress and type of cookies!"




That was almost two months ago.



I don't even live at the address I gave you anymore.



I gave up all hope of ever getting cookies weeks ago.




Plus, the pace of Spring Semester and the crappy diet I had to go on during summer school (Pretty much spaghetti and Cheerios with some meat every other day or so and no cookies((Except when Emily and her friends had me over for some that one time at the end))) and no time to work out, I'm now out of shape. Yesterday was the last day I will be eating sweets for at least until school starts back up in late August. It's a shame. Your promises of cookies combined with my concern that you thought I needed to be a better person led me to adjust my behavior here. So much so that I raised my rep from -50 to +10. Now, all that seems to be in vain.

Of course, my view of you as a friend remains in tact, however the cookies powers you once had over me are now utterly shattered.

Pechorin, in Mikhail Lemontov's "A Hero of Our Time" faced a very simmilar fate.
[i]
I thought for a moment and then said, taking on a deeply touched face: "Yes, such has been my lot since childhood. Everyone read signs of non-existent evil traits in my features. But since they were expected to be there, they did make their appearance. Because I was reserved, they said I was sly, so I grew reticent. I was keenly aware of good and evil, but instead of being indulged I was insulted and so I became spiteful. I was sulky while other children were merry and talkative, but though I felt superior to them I was considered inferior. So I grew envious. I was ready to love the whole world, but no one understood me, and I learned to hate. My cheerless youth passed in conflict with myself and society, and fearing ridicule I buried my finest feelings deep in my heart, and there they died. I spoke the truth, but nobody believed me, so I began to practice duplicity. Having come to know society and its mainsprings, I became versed in the art of living and saw how others were happy without that proficiency, enjoying for free the favors I had so painfully striven for. It was then that despair was born in my heart--not the despair that is cured with a pistol, but a cold, impotent desperation, concealed under a polite exterior and a good-natured smile. I became a moral cripple; I had lost one half of my soul, for it had shriveled, dried up and died, and I had cut it off and cast it away, while the other half stirred and lived, adapted to serve every comer. No one noticed this, because no one suspected there had been another half. Now, however, you have awakened memories of it in me, and what I have just done is to read its epitaph to you. Many regard all epitaphs as ridiculous, but I do not, particularly when I remember what rests beneath them. Of course, I am not asking you to share my opinion; if what I have said seems ridiculous to you, please laugh, though I warn you that it will not annoy me in the slightest." [/i]



I trusted your cookie promises, and that trust was returned only with betrayal and mockery.
[/quote]

Stop whining. You sent me your address on May 25th, which, by my count, was less than a month ago. I can always forward you the facebook msg if you would like to double check. In the meantime I have had to plan a birthday party for two kids and look after my grandmother with colitis. I'm sorry I have been behind in baking.

I will still send your cookies, even if you only throw them in the trash. Besides, you should behave anyway, not because you are jonesing for chocolate chips. I didn't mock you. I was nice (and still am) to you and offered you cookies because you said you wanted them and because you liked them. So if the knowledge that someone cares enough about you to send you cookies, even if she gets behind in sending them, isn't enough to cease your philosophical sob story, then I don't think the chocolate chips will help.

[Hassan]

[quote name='Marie-Therese' date='19 June 2010 - 04:09 PM' timestamp='1276978164' post='2131561']
Stop whining. You sent me your address on May 25th, which, by my count, was less than a month ago.[/QUOTE]


I know when you sent the message. However, as often happens to great Sultans, I confused May with March and forgot about May entirely. My sense of time is off. Probably because I must work without ceasing to expand the borders of my Sultanate, which makes time all blur together, and because I am absent minded about such petty matters as your silly mortal calendar systems because I must always focus on greater matters. Your silly date systems do not interest me


[QUOTE]I can always forward you the facebook msg if you would like to double check. In the meantime I have had to plan a birthday party for two kids and look after my grandmother with colitis. I'm sorry I have been behind in baking.[/QUOTE]

I don't really care. I've meant this as an ongoing joke. I'm not really dejected and anxious about when I may or may not get cookies. I'm touched that you would send them, but as they say 'it's the thought that counts'. Even that literature selection was deliberate and tongue-in-cheek. Pechorin thinks up his sob story to touch the heart of the haughty Princess Mary. He's detached and superfluous.



[QUOTE]I will still send your cookies, even if you only throw them in the trash. Besides, you should behave anyway, not because you are jonesing for chocolate chips. I didn't mock you. I was nice (and still am) to you and offered you cookies because you said you wanted them and because you liked them. So if the knowledge that someone cares enough about you to send you cookies, even if she gets behind in sending them, isn't enough to cease your philosophical sob story, then I don't think the chocolate chips will help.
[/quote]

You mocked me by offering me cookies. Floating their possibility out there, and then constantly snatching them away. As though you can condition me to behavior like Pavlov's dog. I reject your nihilistic and behaviorist worldview and stand defiantly by demanding respect for human dignity which rejects your mechanistic view of human nature and manipulative use of cookies.















In all seriousness. I would love cookies at some point, if for no other reason than to shut-up MIKolbe's gloating, but don't want any now. I don't live at that address anymore (I'm at my family's home until the fall semester) and really did have an awful diet during summer school and the end of Spring semester and really am forcing myself to live a pretty healthy lifestyle (healthy food, regular visits to the gym, sleeping every night, (almost) no alcohol, and a pot of tea every day) until school starts back up. Once I've eased up I'd love some cookies, but not for a little bit please. Since I do appreciate the kindness behind them, I would hate to have to give them away because they came when I wasn't allowing myself sweets.

[MIKolbe]

dude, srsly.. the cookies were great!! thank you, Peyton.

the personalized note was a nice touch.

that joke you made about Hassan was SO FUNNY!!!

"that's what HE said"!!! you crack me up, lady!!!