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laetitia crucis

[quote name='vee8' date='16 June 2010 - 12:09 AM' timestamp='1276661370' post='2129689']
Ya there's only six cus no one can stay awake long enough to think of ten :snore:
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Mary Veronica
:hijack: excuse me, Vee8 now it's: bunchie-hating, Ignatian, Carmelite [b]napping[/b] black sheep.

Glad you didn't wear this shirt when you met the Carmelites at the airport <_<. but Someone tells me they would've taken us all in regardless :hehe:especially star trek-loving PMs.....LC. oh I can't wait to enter the novitiate and meet people exactly like you two :whistle:
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[quote name='Mary Veronica' date='16 June 2010 - 06:46 AM' timestamp='1276685212' post='2129791']
:hijack: excuse me, Vee8 now it's: bunchie-hating, Ignatian, Carmelite [b]napping[/b] black sheep.

Glad you didn't wear this shirt when you met the Carmelites at the airport <_<. but Someone tells me they would've taken us all in regardless :hehe:especially star trek-loving PMs.....LC. oh I can't wait to enter the novitiate and meet people exactly like you two :whistle:
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As silly as it might sound, I'm always curious about the types of people that enter religious life. I mean, I know "everyone's different", but when you think about the various charisms and spiritualities that draw people to specific orders and specific communities... sometimes I can't help but wonder just how much they actually have in common, in terms of interests and random quirks, you know?

If a bunch of us PMers were to enter the same convent... that would be GRAND!!! :woot: (Or should I say, "scathingly brilliant"?)

Poor, poor novice mistress and Mother superior... :lol:

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[quote name='laetitia crucis' date='15 June 2010 - 05:18 AM' timestamp='1276568333' post='2129060']
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This thread is FANTAAASTIC!!!


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Here are two Jewish jokes which are appropriate for this thread:

1] Two elderly Jewish women are passing a church and they hear a lovely choir, so they decide to tiptoe inside to listen better. A group of novice nuns are professing their first vows, and after the ceremony is complete, and they leave the church in procession, the Mother Superior, at the end, notices the two old women. She asks them "Are you relatives of the Brides?", to which the old ladies reply politely, "No, we're relatives of the Groom".

2] O'Reilly and Greenberg are gossiping over the garden fence. When Greenberg asks about O'Reilly's son, O'Reilly tells him proudly that he is becoming a priest. Greenberg nods, but after a minute he asks, "I don't know much about careers in the Church. Is there any higher position than priest?"

O'Reilly explains the next grade of preferment, and Greenberg continues to ask as O'Reilly describes the progression through Monseigneur, Bishop, Archbishop, Cardinal, and, admitting that it is so remote a chance as to be almost impossible, Pope. Finally Greenberg asks, "Pope, eh? That's the very highest job?" and O'Reilly loses patience at last. "For Heaven' sake, do you think my son's Jesus Christ?"

Greenberg looks smug. "One of our guys got the job". [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/lol_grin.gif[/img]

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[quote name='laetitia crucis' date='16 June 2010 - 02:09 PM' timestamp='1276690181' post='2129800']
If a bunch of us PMers were to enter the same convent... that would be GRAND!!! [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/woot.gif[/img] (Or should I say, "scathingly brilliant"?)

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Maybe that Phatmass Hermitage idea from the Lame Board isn't that bad? [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/happy.gif[/img]

No women allowed, though. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif[/img] lol

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laetitia crucis

[quote name='Bennn' date='16 June 2010 - 09:39 AM' timestamp='1276695567' post='2129812']
Maybe that Phatmass Hermitage idea from the Lame Board isn't that bad? [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/happy.gif[/img]

No women allowed, though. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif[/img] lol
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:P

Then we'll have our own Phemale Phatmass Hermitage!

We'll build ours on one of the neighboring islands... complete with those lovely roundhouses (built in hobbit-like fashion) and perhaps some tree houses for the Carmelites and Franciscans.

:D

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[quote name='Mary Veronica' date='16 June 2010 - 05:46 AM' timestamp='1276685212' post='2129791']
:hijack: excuse me, Vee8 now it's: bunchie-hating, Ignatian, Carmelite [b]napping[/b] black sheep.

Glad you didn't wear this shirt when you met the Carmelites at the airport <_<. but Someone tells me they would've taken us all in regardless :hehe:especially star trek-loving PMs.....LC. oh I can't wait to enter the novitiate and meet people exactly like you two :whistle:
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:lol: I'd still wear the shirt but would have to then try to explain to them what a bunchie is and why I hate it, which would make for a pretty unusual conversation I'd imagine.

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[quote name='laetitia crucis' date='16 June 2010 - 09:21 AM' timestamp='1276698065' post='2129820']
:P

Then we'll have our own Phemale Phatmass Hermitage!

We'll build ours on one of the neighboring islands... complete with those lovely roundhouses (built in hobbit-like fashion) and perhaps some tree houses for the Carmelites and Franciscans.

:D
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:woot: ooooh I want a hobbity hermitage!! Complete with round door, in phatmass yellow, and a knob in the middle. Doors with the knob in the middle are awesome!

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TeresaBenedicta

[quote name='laetitia crucis' date='16 June 2010 - 11:21 AM' timestamp='1276698065' post='2129820']
:P

Then we'll have our own Phemale Phatmass Hermitage!

We'll build ours on one of the neighboring islands... complete with those lovely roundhouses (built in hobbit-like fashion) and perhaps some tree houses for the Carmelites and Franciscans.

:D
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Hey! I thought we were doing that Dominican thing together. <_< Traitor!

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IgnatiusofLoyola

[quote name='TeresaBenedicta' date='16 June 2010 - 12:18 PM' timestamp='1276708692' post='2129888']
Hey! I thought we were doing that Dominican thing together. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif[/img] Traitor!
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Well, if I can't be a Jesuit, I'll join the Dominican crowd. And maybe we can have a Jesuit as the priest/confessor for the community. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/whistle.gif[/img]

However, I'd want a hermitage, too, but with access to a large library. If we have hermitages, can I bring my cats? Since they both have chronic diseases, I've made a "vow" to my cats that I will take care of them, and not desert them, until their time comes. (It would be extremely difficult to find appropriate homes for them.) They are "cloistered" indoor cats, so any members of the community who dislike cats or are allergic to them wouldn't be affected.

Would all of us wear different habits? I'd love to see all of us try to agree on a single habit! [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif[/img] (If we decide on Domnican white, I'd vote that our order adopt a special apron to be worn at meal times, so that, my habit, at least, doesn't look like an example of bad modern art.) But, no brown, or black, for the habit, at least. I look terrible in brown and black is depressing. I think Christ wanted us to be in good moods, not dour or depressed.

But, keep the Carmelites in their own hermitages, so that they can feel free to have ecstacies and visions as much as they (or Christ) wants, but won't interfere with the sleep of the rest of us.

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[quote name='laetitia crucis' date='16 June 2010 - 04:21 PM' timestamp='1276698065' post='2129820']
[img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/P.gif[/img]

Then we'll have our own Phemale Phatmass Hermitage!

We'll build ours on one of the neighboring islands... complete with those lovely roundhouses (built in hobbit-like fashion) and perhaps some tree houses for the Carmelites and Franciscans.

[img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/lol_grin.gif[/img]
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Good idea, I like that. Seems like you just invented the 'treehermit', which kinda resembles the pillar Saints (stylites?) of ancient times. ^_^

+Pax Domini,
Ben

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laetitia crucis

[quote name='vee8' date='16 June 2010 - 12:46 PM' timestamp='1276706814' post='2129873']
:woot: ooooh I want a hobbity hermitage!! Complete with round door, in phatmass yellow, and a knob in the middle. Doors with the knob in the middle are awesome!
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I love roundness in architecture! And I so wish there were real doors in existence that have knobs in the middle. That would be fantastic!

[quote name='TeresaBenedicta' date='16 June 2010 - 01:18 PM' timestamp='1276708692' post='2129888']
Hey! I thought we were doing that Dominican thing together. <_< Traitor!
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We totally are! :woot: This Phemale Phatmass island hermitage will be for our retreat days. ^_^ One day a month, one week a year, and one whole month every ten years. How's that? :D

[quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' date='16 June 2010 - 01:38 PM' timestamp='1276709894' post='2129903']
Well, if I can't be a Jesuit, I'll join the Dominican crowd. And maybe we can have a Jesuit as the priest/confessor for the community. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/whistle.gif[/img]

However, I'd want a hermitage, too, but with access to a large library. If we have hermitages, can I bring my cats? Since they both have chronic diseases, I've made a "vow" to my cats that I will take care of them, and not desert them, until their time comes. (It would be extremely difficult to find appropriate homes for them.) They are "cloistered" indoor cats, so any members of the community who dislike cats or are allergic to them wouldn't be affected.

Would all of us wear different habits? I'd love to see all of us try to agree on a single habit! [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif[/img] (If we decide on Domnican white, I'd vote that our order adopt a special apron to be worn at meal times, so that, my habit, at least, doesn't look like an example of bad modern art.) But, no brown, or black, for the habit, at least. I look terrible in brown and black is depressing. I think Christ wanted us to be in good moods, not dour or depressed.

But, keep the Carmelites in their own hermitages, so that they can feel free to have ecstacies and visions as much as they (or Christ) wants, but won't interfere with the sleep of the rest of us.
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Count me in on that apron!!! I fear my habit will definitely be looking like a piece of bad modern art. :paperbag: Perhaps I'll be bringing a good deal of Tide pens and Clorox Bleach pens when I enter!

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[quote name='laetitia crucis' date='16 June 2010 - 01:19 PM' timestamp='1276712382' post='2129938']
I love roundness in architecture! And I so wish there were real doors in existence that have knobs in the middle. That would be fantastic!

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But there are mon ami! You must go to Paris they have many tres cool doors including ones with knobs in the middle. This isn't my pic but I did take quite a few photos of doors there :sweat:
[img]http://piranesiantiques.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/wood-doors-with-arch-between-columns.jpg[/img]

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laetitia crucis

[quote name='vee8' date='16 June 2010 - 02:39 PM' timestamp='1276713546' post='2129955']
But there are mon ami! You must go to Paris they have many tres cool doors including ones with knobs in the middle. This isn't my pic but I did take quite a few photos of doors there :sweat:
[img]http://piranesiantiques.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/wood-doors-with-arch-between-columns.jpg[/img]
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:shock:

*gasp*

:love:

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IgnatiusofLoyola

[quote name='laetitia crucis' date='16 June 2010 - 01:19 PM' timestamp='1276712382' post='2129938']
We totally are! [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/woot.gif[/img] This Phemale Phatmass island hermitage will be for our retreat days. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/happy.gif[/img] One day a month, one week a year, and one whole month every ten years. How's that? [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/lol_grin.gif[/img]

Count me in on that apron!!! I fear my habit will definitely be looking like a piece of bad modern art. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/paperbag.gif[/img] Perhaps I'll be bringing a good deal of Tide pens and Clorox Bleach pens when I enter!
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Maybe what I want is to be a semi-hermit--even if only for a transition year or two to get used to being with people again. I've been essentially homebound for several years now and I've come to really appreciate the quiet and peace. Perhaps I could share prayers, meals, and recreation with the community, but have a hermitage rather than a cell. I haven't lived with other people in community for so long, I'd find it very hard to get used to. And, depending on how soundproof the cell was, I might have serious problems sleeping.

Also, a hermitage would be a way for me to bring my cats without causing problems for the other Sisters--one of my cats is 14, so I treasure every day I have with him as a gift (since I lost his littermate to cancer at age 10). The little girl cat I adopted later is only age 6, but she is very good-natured (has never bitten anyone), of a non-allergic breed (and doesn't shed), and loves affection, so could probably adjust to being a "community cat." She's well over the age where she causes damage. I helped save her once from being euthanized because her owners couldn't/wouldn't deal with the small amount of extra care she needs for her allergies. Before I got her (at age 2), she'd already lived in 4-5 homes, so I refuse to "desert" her the way most of the humans in her life have done so far.

As for the "stain pens," why don't you make sure to include them on your "wish list" for your "Bride of Christ" shower?

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