Olam Update

[zunshynn]

[quote name='she_who_is_not' date='05 June 2010 - 01:46 PM' timestamp='1275767206' post='2124165']
Is she a Benedictine from Sacred Heart in Cullman?
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No, she's a cloistered Benedictine from a different state.

[Cherie]

[quote name='zunshynn' date='05 June 2010 - 06:59 PM' timestamp='1275778794' post='2124246']
No, she's a cloistered Benedictine from a different state.
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And she's the one who receives the vows?!

[osapientia]

[quote name='CherieMadame' date='05 June 2010 - 10:13 PM' timestamp='1275786826' post='2124331']
And she's the one who receives the vows?!
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As an Apostolic Administrator, yes she would be receiving the vows.

[laetitia crucis]

[quote name='osapientia' date='05 June 2010 - 09:18 PM' timestamp='1275787093' post='2124337']
As an Apostolic Administrator, yes she would be receiving the vows.
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I'm curious (just because I've never heard it before) -- what exactly is an Apostolic Administrator? What is their role/office? And how are they appointed?

[Cherie]

[quote name='osapientia' date='05 June 2010 - 09:18 PM' timestamp='1275787093' post='2124337']
As an Apostolic Administrator, yes she would be receiving the vows.
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I worked with a canon lawyer, and according to him the only person who should be receiving vows is the Superior herself; not even the bishop is supposed to be receiving the vows, as that would invalidate them.



I'm sure they know what they're doing; it's not my place to question it!

[zunshynn]

[quote name='CherieMadame' date='05 June 2010 - 07:13 PM' timestamp='1275786826' post='2124331']
And she's the one who receives the vows?!
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Currently, yes, the superior at Our Lady of the Angels Monastery is a Benedictine, and she would receive any vows made by sisters in the monastery.

[quote name='laetitia crucis' date='05 June 2010 - 07:19 PM' timestamp='1275787184' post='2124339']
I'm curious (just because I've never heard it before) -- what exactly is an Apostolic Administrator? What is their role/office? And how are they appointed?


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I'm sure that the reasons for an apostolic administrator being appointed for a religious community varies, but essentially, it's someone chosen from outside of the community itself by the Holy See or the local diocese to act as the superior of a community for a period of time. On a day to day basis I'm pretty sure their role is the same as that of an abbess or other superior.

[Cherie]

[quote name='zunshynn' date='05 June 2010 - 09:26 PM' timestamp='1275787608' post='2124349']
I'm sure that the reasons for an apostolic administrator being appointed for a religious community varies, but essentially, it's someone chosen from outside of the community itself by the Holy See or the local diocese to act as the superior of a community for a period of time. On a day to day basis I'm pretty sure their role is the same as that of an abbess or other superior.
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Gotcha - makes much more sense if she's the acting superior

Thanks for the clarification!

[laetitia crucis]

[quote name='zunshynn' date='05 June 2010 - 09:26 PM' timestamp='1275787608' post='2124349']
Currently, yes, the superior at Our Lady of the Angels Monastery is a Benedictine, and she would receive any vows made by sisters in the monastery.



I'm sure that the reasons for an apostolic administrator being appointed for a religious community varies, but essentially, it's someone chosen from outside of the community itself by the Holy See or the local diocese to act as the superior of a community for a period of time. On a day to day basis I'm pretty sure their role is the same as that of an abbess or other superior.
[/quote]

Forgive me for my ignorance in asking this question but why is a Benedictine appointed as an acting superior over a Poor Clare monastery? (Instead of a fellow Poor Clare?)

I apologize if this questions comes off as anything other than innocent curiosity -- by no means was that my intent. I'm just not familiar at all with contemplative monastic life. I find the inner workings rather interesting.

[truthfinder]

Well, right now OLAM is still without a vicar (as far as I know). The apostolic administrator is to help them discern the direction of the community and allow them to prayerfully elect another vicar. I think I've gotten this right. Maybe it's good that a Benedictine is the administrator. She may be able to better point out the characteristics of the community as an outsider.

[zunshynn]

[quote name='laetitia crucis' date='05 June 2010 - 07:48 PM' timestamp='1275788892' post='2124365']
Forgive me for my ignorance in asking this question but why is a Benedictine appointed as an acting superior over a Poor Clare monastery? (Instead of a fellow Poor Clare?)

I apologize if this questions comes off as anything other than innocent curiosity -- by no means was that my intent. I'm just not familiar at all with contemplative monastic life. I find the inner workings rather interesting.
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I'm not exactly sure why she was appointed. I do know that they currently also have a formator/novice mistress who is a Poor Clare, a Colettine. I think.

[SponsaChristi]

Pictures of the first investment are up!!!! http://www.olamshrine.com/PhotoGallery.htm

This is so wonderful!
And a beautiful name: Sr. Jeanette Marie of Divine Love !!!!

Edited June 10, 2010 by SponsaChristi

[IgnatiusofLoyola]

[quote name='SponsaChristi' date='10 June 2010 - 09:55 AM' timestamp='1276181740' post='2126753']
Pictures of the first investment are up!!!! [url="http://www.olamshrine.com/PhotoGallery.htm"]http://www.olamshrin...hotoGallery.htm[/url]

This is so wonderful! [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/breakdance.gif[/img] [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif[/img]
And a beautiful name: Sr. Jeanette Marie of Divine Love !!!! [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif[/img] [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif[/img] [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif[/img]
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Thanks for alerting us to the new pictures!

But, of course, now I have one of my ignorant questions....[img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif[/img]

In one picture, it looked like the new novice was wearing a gold ring. Isn't the ring usually given at final profession? Or, do some Orders give the ring sooner? (I do know that Orders vary as to whether the ring is worn on the right or left hand, or whether it is silver or gold, but I thought it was always at Final Profession.)

Thanks!

[Cherie]

[quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' date='10 June 2010 - 07:30 PM' timestamp='1276212635' post='2126999']
Thanks for alerting us to the new pictures!

But, of course, now I have one of my ignorant questions....[img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif[/img]

In one picture, it looked like the new novice was wearing a gold ring. Isn't the ring usually given at final profession? Or, do some Orders give the ring sooner? (I do know that Orders vary as to whether the ring is worn on the right or left hand, or whether it is silver or gold, but I thought it was always at Final Profession.)

Thanks!
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Yes, hmm...I see it too, and that is interesting!

I remember Fr. Pablo Straub used to say that in the women's community he founded, they give the ring at First Professions (not Final Professions like most other communities do, if they have a ring at all) because he said, "Once you're married, you're married!" (Of course, as a former temporary professed Sister, I know that canonically that's not 100% accurate, but when a Sister makes her First Profession she does so with the intention of ultimately making her Final Profession, so I see where he's coming from! )

Anyway - anyone who is familiar with the PCPAs know the answer to why the novice is wearing a gold ring on her right hand?

[truthfinder]

Hmmm... I could just be a reflection of light making a rosary ring appear gold, or something to that effect.

[zunshynn]

PCPA solemn profession rings are silver... I think I recall that Sister used to wear a Rosary ring, or a ring that had some other kind of significance to her, I don't remember exactly, but it's not something she was invested with.

Edited June 11, 2010 by zunshynn