Former Catholics For Christ

[ChronoMasta]

[quote name='littleflower' date='JMJ+Apr 14 2004, 03:56 PM'] i seriously (even tho i haven't been there in aloong time) dont advise going there.

its alions den :ph34r: [/quote]
You should see the place that I'm a member at (it's www.zboard.net - the faith section). We deal with plenty of Protestant falsehoods each an every day, and some are extremely vicious.

BRING IT ON!!

[CreepyCrawler]

I found this on their website and I thought it was funny:
"Shortly after the American forces had triumphantly entered Cuba it was learned that Priest Tamaro had been and was still one of the most active priests in the Island in throwing impediments in the American's way in adjusting the Island to American methods, and in this way had particularly attracted the attention of American officers. [color=red]God bless Americans, they are all naturally Protestants[/color], so these officers took a special delight in investigating this priest's record, and one evening after dark sent word to Tamaro that unless he surrendered to them and ceased his meddling that they would deal with him in a manner that would forever impress his mind with American earnestness."


I thought the God bless Americans part was funny, but a sad funny. This site is insane, I actually had looked at it before and it made me so mad that I just had to stop and go away for awhile. I wonder why people put so much effort into hating Catholics when they could use that energy to spread the Gospel...

[Quietfire]

Oh, my goodness....I typed in forum

I meant topic-thread right here at Phatmass.

same 'page' as this one. couple of spaces down.

I am soooooooo sorry.
but gee! if theres an actual forum(website) with that title, I dont think I would ever want to visit.
truly sorry.
past my bedtime.

[Ashley]

[quote name='crazyboutjesus05' date='Apr 14 2004, 04:00 PM'] You should see the place that I'm a member at (it's www.zboard.net - the faith section). We deal with plenty of Protestant falsehoods each an every day, and some are extremely vicious.

BRING IT ON!! [/quote]
Protestant falsehoods? :angry:

"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."

Matthew 7:3-5

[M.SIGGA]

I think it's great a Jewish person is quoting the Gospel. Flip forward to John 3:16!

In Christ

[willguy]

She's ethnically Jewish, but she is Christian.

[M.SIGGA]

[quote name='willguy' date='Apr 14 2004, 04:43 PM'] She's ethnically Jewish, but she is Christian. [/quote]
oh ... me too technically.

[mamalove]

[quote name='Ashley' date='Apr 14 2004, 04:16 PM'] "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."

Matthew 7:3-5 [/quote]
Right back atcha
(and I mean that with a sincere heart)

[HomeTeamFamily]

i think its kinda ironic that this

You must do the thing you think you cannot do.

is ashleys sig.....seems like she could try doing the thing she thinks she cant....

[BeenaBobba]

The stories on that page are sad. I didn't read them all in-depth, but I paged through them. What makes me sad is that they, the people who left the Church, seemed to have known next to nothing about the Catholic Faith they left -- that, or they seem to have left for personal reasons, confusing [i]the Church[/i] as an official and infallible institution and the sins of its members. There was a photo of one woman standing in front of a sign that said, "By their fruits you will know them," with the contextual implication that the Catholic Church is less True because of its sinful members. (As if every human institution on earth didn't have sinners! Protestantism, certainly, is not immune to this. Slavery. Anglicans killing Catholics. Salem "Witch" Trials. Etc.) There was also the normal assortment of anti-Catholic myths: "Hitler and the Pope" being one of them.

What struck me was that none of the testimonies on that page went too into depth regarding theology and history. I don't recall reading anything that started with "When I read so-and-so Church Father..." or "When I read about the Council of Nicea..." or whatever. Instead, I'd read things along the lines of, "When I looked at the Bible for the first time [i]myself[/i], I knew I was being deceived by the Catholic Church." One woman wrote that she believed that she was saved by her deeds when she was a Catholic. Catholics simply don't believe that we're saved by works alone. That would be Pelagianism, and the Church has always condemned that officially.

I think the whole popularity behind the whole "Do It Yourself" Sola Scriptura thing is that people simply can read whatever they want out of the Bible. Example: Do you struggle to be holy, as Luther did? "No problem. I read the Bible, and it said I'm saved by faith alone, so my salvation can't be lost."

I think that, if anything, the testimony of these former Catholics should remind us of the great need for good catechesis and apologetic training. Catholics who are knowledgeable about their Faith, therefore, have a great responsibility in going out and taking part in what the Holy Father has called the "New Evangelization." As y'all can see, there's a great need for it.

God bless,

Jen

Edited April 15, 2004 by BeenaBobba