Draw Pope Pius V Day

[Catholic Fox]

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/El_Greco_050.jpg/200px-El_Greco_050.jpg[/img]

[Catholic Fox]

Mods--you missed one.

[goldenchild17]

[quote name='Catholic Fox' date='25 May 2010 - 08:27 PM' timestamp='1274840871' post='2117895']
Mods--you missed one.
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No they didn't. None of those other false gods can be put in the same category as Pope Pius or any other pope.

[goldenchild17]

oh, and my favorite of him is this one (and in danger of being ruined):

[img]http://www.timesofmalta.com/media/serve/20090726--103312-loc_09.jpg[/img]

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20090726/local/priceless-giuseppe-cali-paintings-risk-being-lost

[Catholic Fox]

[quote name='goldenchild17' date='25 May 2010 - 09:51 PM' timestamp='1274842300' post='2117930']
oh, and my favorite of him is this one (and in danger of being ruined):

[img]http://www.timesofmalta.com/media/serve/20090726--103312-loc_09.jpg[/img]

[url="http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20090726/local/priceless-giuseppe-cali-paintings-risk-being-lost"]http://www.timesofma...risk-being-lost[/url]
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[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='goldenchild17' date='25 May 2010 - 10:46 PM' timestamp='1274841960' post='2117923']
No they didn't. None of those other false gods can be put in the same category as Pope Pius or any other pope.
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[Luigi]

[quote name='goldenchild17' date='25 May 2010 - 10:46 PM' timestamp='1274841960' post='2117923']
No they didn't. None of those other false gods can be put in the same category as Pope Pius [b]or any other pope[/b].
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Not even the false popes?!

[Resurrexi]

[quote name='Luigi' date='25 May 2010 - 11:25 PM' timestamp='1274847948' post='2118037']
Not even the false popes?!
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A false pope is not pope at all.

[Luigi]

I'd draw him if I could, but I'm not much of an artist. The only class I took was figure drawing, and Pius V is wearing clothes! What can I do?

[Nihil Obstat]

One antipope became a saint though.

[Luigi]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='26 May 2010 - 12:35 AM' timestamp='1274848547' post='2118043']
One antipope became a saint though.
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That's why I'm asking. Who knew?

[Resurrexi]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='25 May 2010 - 11:35 PM' timestamp='1274848547' post='2118043']
One antipope became a saint though.
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The historical information on Hippolytus is pretty sketchy. I think it's hard to say whether he was actually an anti-pope.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Resurrexi' date='25 May 2010 - 11:39 PM' timestamp='1274848743' post='2118046']
The historical information on Hippolytus is pretty sketchy. I think it's hard to say whether he was actually an anti-pope.
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Jurgens believes he was. Of course he was careful to specify that he was reconciled with the real pope sometime before his death. Pontianus, I think. Jurgens' belief seems to be that "Hippolytus' position of anti-pope[b] was literally forgotten at an early date[/b], and Pope St. Damascus I honoured his tomb with an inscription that calls him a follower of Novatian, but recalls that he was a martyr who, before his death, admonished his followers to be reconciled to the Church. A tradition grew up, current as early as St. Jerome, that Hippolytus had been bishop of Porto Romanus, one of the suburban Roman sees."

[Resurrexi]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='25 May 2010 - 11:47 PM' timestamp='1274849250' post='2118053']
Jurgens believes he was. Of course he was careful to specify that he was reconciled with the real pope sometime before his death. Pontianus, I think. Jurgens' belief seems to be that "Hippolytus' position of anti-pope[b] was literally forgotten at an early date[/b], and Pope St. Damascus I honoured his tomb with an inscription that calls him a follower of Novatian, but recalls that he was a martyr who, before his death, admonished his followers to be reconciled to the Church. A tradition grew up, current as early as St. Jerome, that Hippolytus had been bishop of Porto Romanus, one of the suburban Roman sees."
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As I said, though, I think it's pretty sketchy, and most of the stuff I've read on it seems more like guesswork than anything. Maybe Hippolytus was an anti-pope, but maybe he wasn't.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Resurrexi' date='25 May 2010 - 11:50 PM' timestamp='1274849425' post='2118054']
As I said, though, I think it's pretty sketchy, and most of the stuff I've read on it seems more like guesswork than anything. Maybe Hippolytus was an anti-pope, but maybe he wasn't.
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I suppose it's possible. I trust Jurgens though- it's clear to me that he's a real scholar. If he believes it, I know it's for a reason, and since I've seen no contrary evidence, I stick with him.