Draw Zoroaster Day

[MIKolbe]

LOL

cool!!!


ftr, i am a REALLY good hugger.

[Jesus_lol]

[quote name='notardillacid' date='25 May 2010 - 05:03 AM' timestamp='1274789019' post='2117161']
AND WE HAVE A WINNER!
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[quote name='MIkolbe' date='25 May 2010 - 06:18 AM' timestamp='1274793503' post='2117188']
epic win.
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[quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='25 May 2010 - 06:48 AM' timestamp='1274795338' post='2117208']
[b]NO YOU!![/b] [i]In actuality what has been stated applies more directly to the former poster than to myself.[/i] If I were serious I'd have debated you instead of just saying 'logic fail' but I could tell that you were being tongue-in-cheek. However, fail again for assuming that the problem is with the reader's comprehension and not with your own writing abilities.
1. That was more than four years ago so maybe I've changed my mind.
2. Darth Vader replacing Adam is different in many important ways from the Spaghetti Monster replacing God so you're logic failed again. I'm sure I do not need to spell this out.
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i figured you werent being serious with me,but you were being serious about something else, so it made sense to assume. PM has gotten me used to 3 syllable arguments being common, sorry

but... but... people arent allowed to change their mind over the years! politics has taught me that this makes you an unreliable flip flopping commie!
yeah i figured it wouldnt quite count, but you must admit, your post i found is about as close to a perfect "AHA!!" moment as you can find in this life.

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Although... Win for finding such a post, I am in awe of your search abilities.
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[img]http://www.cartoonfile.net/ellvis-I-just-wanted-to-say.gif[/img]
[img]http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web03/2010/2/18/15/domo-arigato-mr-mugatu-domodomo-25360-1266526667-157.jpg[/img]

i have a long memory, my good man.

[quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='25 May 2010 - 07:22 AM' timestamp='1274797379' post='2117220']
j_lol's post was funny and cool, but if you actually believe that a valid point was made by that post then we have nothing to discuss. If this were the lame board I'd be more inclined to joke around, but this thread, insofar as it is serious, positively disgusts me.
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i did a double take then had to check that this wasnt in the lame board. seriously, "draw zoroaster day" ?? a lame board thread if i have ever seen one.

[quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='25 May 2010 - 07:43 AM' timestamp='1274798628' post='2117230']
To me, the FSM is in the same category as the LOL Jesus.
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i pick and choose with that meme, but there are plenty that i dont think are offensive at all. but thats just me, im quite prepared to laugh at anything.

[quote name='notardillacid' date='25 May 2010 - 07:46 AM' timestamp='1274798775' post='2117231']
P.S. You cannot claim JLOL speaks for phatmass
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yeah seriously, like letting the fox speak for the chickens.

[Hilde]

[God Conquers]

Worst argument ever.

[jeffpugh]

[quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='25 May 2010 - 10:19 AM' timestamp='1274797198' post='2117218']
There is no double standard and I'll try to explain why on a third grade level.

1. Even if there were a double standard (based on a more than four year old post) this would not invalidate my previous points. If you believe that it would you are illogical and we have nothing further to discuss.
2. The meaning of the Darth Vader picture is not blasphemous. Unlike the Spaghetti Monster, Darth Vader is not an icon of pop atheism. Also, and most obviously, the image of God the Father has not been altered. [b]Further, the "joke" is the irony of the fact that God is Vader's Father.[/b] In no way does that image seek to ridicule theists, insult and/or deny God, or promote pop atheism.
3. If you really don't understand the purpose of the Spaghetti Monster meme in popular atheism I really don't believe it is my place to explain it. Richard Dawkins book [i]The God Delusion[/i] may be of interest. The purpose and meaning of the Spaghetti Monster is similar to Dawkin's Invisible Pink Unicorn.
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Eloquently put!

[quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='25 May 2010 - 10:19 AM' timestamp='1274797198' post='2117218']
I got a -1 on a Catholic board for pointing out that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is pop-atheist propaganda. [b]Now that is fascinating.[/b] I don't see this as being about "lightening up" and "making fun of yourself," it is about allowing God to be mocked and endorsing tacky anti-religious propaganda.
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Hahaha. Fascinating, indeed. Illogical, even.

[Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam]

The guys I know who are into the pop atheism thing call it the Spaghe-Deity (making a pun on the word spaghetti).

[BG45]

[quote name='Hilde' date='25 May 2010 - 11:06 AM' timestamp='1274799995' post='2117240']
And who is Zoraster?
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An ancient Iranian (well not at that time) mystic and philosopher. And the founder of Zoroastrianism, Good vs. Evil, that sort of deal. There's more, but that's about all I know.

[Resurrexi]

Zoroastrianism is a very interesting, and, in my opinion. In my opinion, it has more truth in it than any other pre-Christian religion besides Judaism.

[Socrates]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' date='24 May 2010 - 11:33 PM' timestamp='1274758437' post='2117031']
FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER!!!



are you trying to tell me, you have never deserved a little mocking? [/quote]
I'm sure we all deserve a little mocking.
The Most Holy God, however, does not. Read the Old Testament - blasphemy was taken very seriously; in fact it was considered [i]the[/i] most serious sin.

[quote]and its mocking God[b]S[/b], not just God.and mostly the role religion often takes in lawmaking, in a society which has ostensibly seperated church and state.
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I've always found that to be bs. It always seems to be specifically the Judeao-Christian God (and the belief therein) that atheists have such a big issue with. Generally, it's not believers in Thor, Zeus, or Quetzacoatl that they have a beef with.

And I don't know what this horrible religious lawmaking is that you're talking about. Laws against abortion? Laws allowing prayer in public places? If anything, I'd say our legal system has become adverse to religion. The whole radical-secularist idea that religion or even religious morality cannot have any presence in the public sphere is bogus anyways.


[quote name='Jesus_lol' date='25 May 2010 - 12:52 AM' timestamp='1274763139' post='2117078']
i dont mind being made fun of. i see it as fairly good natured. beleiving in God is no buffer against being an idiot, and certainly some of the people being mocked for it deserve it.
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What? You're telling me that among the many millions of religious beleivers, there's some idiots?
(As opposed to those wonderful atheists, who are beyond any mockery.)

However, c[font="Arial"]ra[/font]p like the "Flying Spaghetti Monster" specifically mocks [i]God[/i] (or belief in Him).
Whatever else people may deserve mockery for, belief in God is not among them.

I don't get all shocked at that kind of juvenile croutons, but I don't think it's anything a Christian should be condoning or participating in.

[Nihil Obstat]

[img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_b3GHoGMBNpY/SWp3SxoS_VI/AAAAAAAADSA/8vrSzV6qoAM/s400/lolcat42.jpg[/img]

[Selah]

...the hell? Why is this thread an argument now? It was meant as...and then...but how...?

Oy I need a drink...

[Jesus_lol]

Gotta love that when people dislike a picture, they give the negative points to the guy who talked about it instead the the guy who posted it.

[quote name='Socrates' date='25 May 2010 - 11:20 AM' timestamp='1274811604' post='2117334']
I'm sure we all deserve a little mocking.
The Most Holy God, however, does not. Read the Old Testament - blasphemy was taken very seriously; in fact it was considered [i]the[/i] most serious sin.


I've always found that to be bs. It always seems to be specifically the Judeao-Christian God (and the belief therein) that atheists have such a big issue with. Generally, it's not believers in Thor, Zeus, or Quetzacoatl that they have a beef with.

And I don't know what this horrible religious lawmaking is that you're talking about. Laws against abortion? Laws allowing prayer in public places? If anything, I'd say our legal system has become adverse to religion. The whole radical-secularist idea that religion or even religious morality cannot have any presence in the public sphere is bogus anyways.



What? You're telling me that among the many millions of religious beleivers, there's some idiots?
(As opposed to those wonderful atheists, who are beyond any mockery.)

However, c[font="Arial"]ra[/font]p like the "Flying Spaghetti Monster" specifically mocks [i]God[/i] (or belief in Him).
Whatever else people may deserve mockery for, belief in God is not among them.

I don't get all shocked at that kind of juvenile croutons, but I don't think it's anything a Christian should be condoning or participating in.
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You are surprised that american athiests have the most issue with a religion that is practised by most of the country around them, and not gods that no one has really worshipped for centuries, and in different countries besides? if Quetzalcoatl was still around im pretty sure people would take issue with all of the human sacrifices in his name.

i was just telling what it is, not what i think. besides, stuff like intelligent design replacing evolution in schools, and modified history being taught in schools (hello, texas) would count in my mind as religion overstepping its bounds in law.

Belief in God is mocked all the time here when it is beleived that they are doing it wrong.

[Jesus_lol]

[quote name='Selah' date='25 May 2010 - 12:04 PM' timestamp='1274814275' post='2117375']
...the hell? Why is this thread an argument now? It was meant as...and then...but how...?

Oy I need a drink...
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sorry

[Nihil Obstat]

To be honest, I'm really surprised at the intensity of response here. I'm kinda frightened.

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='25 May 2010 - 08:19 AM' timestamp='1274797198' post='2117218']
There is no double standard and I'll try to explain why on a third grade level.

1. Even if there were a double standard (based on a more than four year old post) this would not invalidate my previous points. If you believe that it would you are illogical and we have nothing further to discuss.
2. The meaning of the Darth Vader picture is not blasphemous. Unlike the Spaghetti Monster, Darth Vader is not an icon of pop atheism. Also, and most obviously, the image of God the Father has not been altered. Further, the "joke" is the irony of the fact that God is Vader's Father. In no way does that image seek to ridicule theists, insult and/or deny God, or promote pop atheism.
3. If you really don't understand the purpose of the Spaghetti Monster meme in popular atheism I really don't believe it is my place to explain it. Richard Dawkins book [i]The God Delusion[/i] may be of interest. The purpose and meaning of the Spaghetti Monster is similar to Dawkin's Invisible Pink Unicorn.

I got a -1 on a Catholic board for pointing out that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is pop-atheist propaganda. Now that is fascinating. I don't see this as being about "lightening up" and "making fun of yourself," it is about allowing God to be mocked and endorsing tacky anti-religious propaganda.
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Great explanation of your position. +1