zunshynn Posted May 24, 2010 Author Share Posted May 24, 2010 [quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' date='23 May 2010 - 11:21 PM' timestamp='1274678505' post='2116434'] Could you do it for me? The Holy Spirit has been working on me lately and I'd like to see what I'd get. Thanks! [/quote] Gift of the Holy Spirit : Piety Fruit of the Holy Spirit : Self-Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zunshynn Posted May 24, 2010 Author Share Posted May 24, 2010 (edited) Who gave this thread 1 star?! Edited May 24, 2010 by zunshynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vee Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Oooooh me too please! I have Mother Angelicas book you mention and when I have time I will post her explanation on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zunshynn Posted May 24, 2010 Author Share Posted May 24, 2010 [quote name='vee8' date='24 May 2010 - 10:18 AM' timestamp='1274717919' post='2116553'] Oooooh me too please! I have Mother Angelicas book you mention and when I have time I will post her explanation on here. [/quote] Gift of the Holy Spirit : Wisdom Fruit of the Holy Spirit : Charity Those go awesome together! That would be wonderful if you have time to do that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
let_go_let_God Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 [quote name='zunshynn' date='24 May 2010 - 11:22 AM' timestamp='1274714577' post='2116530'] Gift of the Holy Spirit : Wisdom Fruit of the Holy Spirit : Modesty [/quote] Thanks, that's going to be a great one considering the beginning of my new job. Hopefully it can rub off on the kids too. God bless- LGLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG45 Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 (edited) [quote name='zunshynn' date='24 May 2010 - 11:25 AM' timestamp='1274714721' post='2116535'] Who gave this thread 1 star?! [/quote] Dunno ZZ, I gave it a five? Given your results for me are exactly what I need to work on... Edited May 24, 2010 by BG45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vee Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 [quote name='zunshynn' date='24 May 2010 - 11:35 AM' timestamp='1274718929' post='2116557'] Gift of the Holy Spirit : Wisdom Fruit of the Holy Spirit : Charity Those go awesome together! That would be wonderful if you have time to do that! [/quote] I reread the entry in Mother Angrlicas book about wisdom and oh wow wow wow!! It really ties into what Ive been experiencing for the past two weeks and shows me the beautiful road God wants to take me on. I almost wanted to cry reading that. Here is the first gift as Mother Angelica explains it. Fear of the Lord The first gift the apostles received was fear of the Lord. Now you might say, " I don't want to be afraid of the Lord.". Well that is not what it means. There are two reasons to fear: out of punishment or out of love. If you love someone deeply, you do not want to hurt them in any way. You will do anything to avoid offending them. That's what fear of the Lord is: a childlike fear, rooted in love. The fear of the Lord gave the apostles a deep knowledge of God as Father. They had the experience, through the power of the Spirit, of being sons of God, and they would do nothing to offend their Father. It drove them,and hopefully will drive us, to imitate the Fathers mercy and compassion. When I am a child of God I must desire to be like the Father. This spiritual gift informs us that God is truly our Father and enables us to look upon all mankind as brothers and sisters, children of the same Father. We have the same concern for our brothers and sisters as the Father has. Without making this leap, taking this spiritual step, there cam be no other. This gift enables us to rise above our human nature.. It teaches us to love like God loves. The fear of the Lord even elevates temptation. Temptation ceases to be negative, but becomes positive. You no longer think: I can't do this because I'll go to hell or I'll get caught. No. You now refrain from doing wrong because you love our Father and our Father would be displeased. It's about love and it frees you. This gift of fear of the Lord is like an aid to keeping the first commandment to love God the Father with our whole heart and mind and soul and strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piccoli Fiori JMJ Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 [quote name='zunshynn' date='24 May 2010 - 10:19 AM' timestamp='1274714395' post='2116527'] Well, many people do think of it as something that they "have to work on" for the year, and certainly there is a certain element of necessary cooperation with the Holy Spirit in order to, but it is important to remember that it is a "gift" of the Holy Spirit. You don't grow in the gifts of the Holy Spirit because you did something to get it, but because He gives you that gift. Obviously the Holy Spirit is always working on us to grow in ALL of His gifts and fruits. What you draw is just something that perhaps He will be trying to increase in you particularly over the year. One thing that's nice about it is you think about that particular thing more, and in my experience, will notice the opportunities that arise in your life to bear that fruit, etc. For example... when we did this when I was a postulant, I got the gift of fear of the Lord, and the fruit of gentleness, if I remember correctly... and throughout the year, I could see ways in which I could practice gentleness more clearly, and also could cooperate with the Lord trying to increase a deeper, filial reverence in me. So it's a combination of active and passive... It's important to recognize that it is the Holy Spirit that does it, but to also recognize that He needs us to cooperate! It probably would be cool to do with a youth group. In the monastery the sister would make them on nice card paper on the computer, and include the date, so that we could keep them throughout the year if we wanted to. I kept it on the frame of my cell door so I saw it every day as I was coming in and out of my cell. You may like to do something like that for them. (I just wrote them out on little torn pieces of paper. I may make one for myself though.) [/quote] Ah, thank you! I'll see what the kiddos are doing this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissyP89 Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 [quote name='Marie-Therese' date='23 May 2010 - 10:28 PM' timestamp='1274668134' post='2116298'] We can make patience one of the Commune aims. [/quote] IAWTC. You are very wise indeed, P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgnatiusofLoyola Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 [quote name='Marie-Therese' date='23 May 2010 - 09:28 PM' timestamp='1274668134' post='2116298'] We can make patience one of the Commune aims. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/twothumbsup.gif[/img] [/quote] [quote name='MissyP89' date='24 May 2010 - 06:33 PM' timestamp='1274744036' post='2116770'] IAWTC. You are very wise indeed, P. [/quote] You guys are starting a commune? Tie-dye clothing is not one of the requirements, I hope! [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laetitia crucis Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Ooo! Me, too! (Pretty please. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zunshynn Posted May 24, 2010 Author Share Posted May 24, 2010 [quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' date='24 May 2010 - 05:39 PM' timestamp='1274744357' post='2116778'] You guys are starting a commune? Tie-dye clothing is not one of the requirements, I hope! [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif[/img] [/quote] Not only will tie-dye clothing not be required, we probably won't allow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgnatiusofLoyola Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 (edited) [quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' date='24 May 2010 - 06:39 PM' timestamp='1274744357' post='2116778'] You guys are starting a commune? Tie-dye clothing is not one of the requirements, I hope! [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif[/img] [/quote] [quote name='zunshynn' date='24 May 2010 - 06:43 PM' timestamp='1274744590' post='2116784'] [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/covereyes.gif[/img] Not only will tie-dye clothing not be required, we probably won't allow it. [/quote] Definitely a WIN! [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif[/img] Edited May 24, 2010 by IgnatiusofLoyola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebecca2009 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Oh, please do that for me too. THANK you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebecca2009 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 [quote name='vee8' date='24 May 2010 - 03:28 PM' timestamp='1274732882' post='2116664'] I reread the entry in Mother Angrlicas book about wisdom and oh wow wow wow!! It really ties into what Ive been experiencing for the past two weeks and shows me the beautiful road God wants to take me on. I almost wanted to cry reading that. Here is the first gift as Mother Angelica explains it. Fear of the Lord The first gift the apostles received was fear of the Lord. Now you might say, " I don't want to be afraid of the Lord.". Well that is not what it means. There are two reasons to fear: out of punishment or out of love. If you love someone deeply, you do not want to hurt them in any way. You will do anything to avoid offending them. That's what fear of the Lord is: a childlike fear, rooted in love. The fear of the Lord gave the apostles a deep knowledge of God as Father. They had the experience, through the power of the Spirit, of being sons of God, and they would do nothing to offend their Father. It drove them,and hopefully will drive us, to imitate the Fathers mercy and compassion. When I am a child of God I must desire to be like the Father. This spiritual gift informs us that God is truly our Father and enables us to look upon all mankind as brothers and sisters, children of the same Father. We have the same concern for our brothers and sisters as the Father has. Without making this leap, taking this spiritual step, there cam be no other. This gift enables us to rise above our human nature.. It teaches us to love like God loves. The fear of the Lord even elevates temptation. Temptation ceases to be negative, but becomes positive. You no longer think: I can't do this because I'll go to hell or I'll get caught. No. You now refrain from doing wrong because you love our Father and our Father would be displeased. It's about love and it frees you. This gift of fear of the Lord is like an aid to keeping the first commandment to love God the Father with our whole heart and mind and soul and strength. [/quote] WOW that is excellent. Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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