Facing East At Phatmass

[aalpha1989]

[quote name='ThePenciledOne' date='08 May 2010 - 03:41 PM' timestamp='1273347696' post='2107068']
Question, I am a bit naive here, but why face east?


Seems a bit Islamic to me.
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Facing East is a Tradition much older than Islam. They don't face East, anyway, they face Mecca... but I know you knew that already.

[ThePenciledOne]

[quote name='aalpha1989' date='08 May 2010 - 04:44 PM' timestamp='1273347842' post='2107070']
Facing East is a Tradition much older than Islam. They don't face East, anyway, they face Mecca... but I know you knew that already.
[/quote]

hmm ok.

Yeah I know they face Mecca, which for me is east anyway.

I don't necessarily understand the point though.

[homeschoolmom]

My desk chair faces east anyway.

[aalpha1989]

[quote name='laetitia crucis' date='08 May 2010 - 02:27 PM' timestamp='1273343231' post='2107008']
I think it would be somewhat difficult facing east (while typing a prayer on Phatmass) if you had a desktop computer that caused you to face west when typing.

[img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/hehehe.gif[/img]
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If you [i]must[/i], put a crucifix atop your monitor or between your keyboard and the monitor.

[Hilde]

What if Muslims are on the exact opposite side of Mecca. Which way do they face?

[aalpha1989]

[quote name='Hilde' date='08 May 2010 - 03:51 PM' timestamp='1273348271' post='2107078']
What if Muslims are on the exact opposite side of Mecca. Which way do they face?
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nvm, I didn't understand the question. Now that I do, I don't know the answer either!

Edited May 8, 2010 by aalpha1989

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='Hilde' date='08 May 2010 - 03:51 PM' timestamp='1273348271' post='2107078']
What if Muslims are on the exact opposite side of Mecca. Which way do they face?
[/quote]
I always wondered that, too.

[zunshynn]

[quote name='Hilde' date='08 May 2010 - 01:51 PM' timestamp='1273348271' post='2107078']
What if Muslims are on the exact opposite side of Mecca. Which way do they face?
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Then they still face Mecca. The East doesn't really have any significance for them.

[IgnatiusofLoyola]

Apo--As usual, your wisdom has made things clear for me.

Any issues or questions I might have about Catholicism are obviously due to the fact that I normally face West (toward California, yet!) while posting. I've never posted a prayer on Phatmass, and that's probably because I am facing West.

However, this brings up an important theological issue. When I type, I sit propped up on a couch, with my laptop on my knees. So, while "I" face West, my laptop keyboard faces East. Since, on Phatmass, you don't hear my voice, but only see what I type, perhaps I AM facing East, since my keyboard, in effect, becomes a representation of me when I type.

I think Pope Rural IX addressed this issue thoroughly. However, I have never been able to find a good translation of the writings of Pope Rural IX, so I can't look it up.

In his absence, what sayest thou on this issue? [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif[/img]

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' date='08 May 2010 - 02:39 PM' timestamp='1273351185' post='2107105']
Apo--As usual, your wisdom has made things clear for me.

Any issues or questions I might have about Catholicism are obviously due to the fact that I normally face West (toward California, yet!) while posting. I've never posted a prayer on Phatmass, and that's probably because I am facing West.

However, this brings up an important theological issue. When I type, [i]I sit[/i] propped up on a couch, with my laptop on my knees. So, while "I" face West, my laptop keyboard faces East. Since, on Phatmass, you don't hear my voice, but only see what I type, perhaps I AM facing East, since my keyboard, in effect, becomes a representation of me when I type.

I think Pope Rural IX addressed this issue thoroughly. However, I have never been able to find a good translation of the writings of Pope Rural IX, so I can't look it up.

In his absence, what sayest thou on this issue? [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif[/img]
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You are supposed to stand when praying.

[IgnatiusofLoyola]

[quote name='Apotheoun' date='08 May 2010 - 06:28 PM' timestamp='1273361331' post='2107172']
You are supposed to stand when praying.
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Interesting point--I'm not being sarcastic, I genuinely want to know what you think about this. (The stuff about which direction the keyboard is facing was silliness, obviously.)

Do you stand when posting a prayer on PM?

Is there a difference in the Catholic faith as to when you stand versus when you kneel when praying? I know that you kneel (on the ground?) for Adoration of the Eucharist. I was shocked to hear that some (many?) Catholic churches had taken out kneelers. For me, at least, it seems more natural to kneel when you pray, rather than stand.

Also, can I assume that that it is okay to sit (or even possibly lie down) while praying if you have physical issues that prevent you from standing or kneeling for the period of time that you want to pray? (I'm not asking this as a theoretical question.)

Thanks!

Edited May 8, 2010 by IgnatiusofLoyola

[MIKolbe]

we sit to learn/listen

we stand to pray

we kneel to adore (and to pray)

if you have physical problems, we really don't care. kneel or forever offend God.

[Slappo]

[quote name='MIkolbe' date='08 May 2010 - 04:42 PM' timestamp='1273362157' post='2107179']
we sit to learn/listen

we stand to pray

we kneel to adore (and to pray)

if you have physical problems, we really don't care. kneel or forever offend God.
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Except on Sunday's in the Eastern Churches. they don't kneel b/c it is a form of penance.

[IgnatiusofLoyola]

[quote name='MIkolbe' date='08 May 2010 - 06:42 PM' timestamp='1273362157' post='2107179']
we sit to learn/listen

we stand to pray

we kneel to adore (and to pray)

if you have physical problems, we really don't care. kneel or forever offend God.
[/quote]

Makes sense to me--although it's different than what I grew up with.

Please tell me your last sentence is a joke.

[Slappo]

[quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' date='08 May 2010 - 04:49 PM' timestamp='1273362547' post='2107183']
Makes sense to me--although it's different than what I grew up with.

Please tell me your last sentence is a joke.
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His last sentance is a joke... lol