Creighton

[Cherie]

[quote name='Brother Adam' date='25 April 2010 - 06:51 PM' timestamp='1272235862' post='2099936']
Creighton is not difficult and you usually work with an instructor or doctor who has been trained through their national institute. I find it much easier than the CCL version, but then I am a guy. It is a sticker based program (green, white, and red) based on external observation. I am sure you will catch on quickly.
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At first, it seemed like it would be VERY confusing, and I was a bit intimidated at the beginning. Keep with it. In no time, it will be like second nature.

I use Creighton Model and I HIGHLY, HIGHLY recommend it. Our little guy in utero (I'm 16 weeks along) wouldn't be here when he is if it weren't for Creighton model. I recommend it to everyone I know, especially those with irregular cycles or infertility problems. It has a very high success rate for couples wishing to conceive. Of course, if you're using it to conceive you could also use it as a method of NFP. What I love about the instructors is that they are very family-oriented. They realize that couples who need to use it for a time can, but they encourage couples to be open to life. I was blessed to be a patient of an NFP-only OB/GYN practice in the part of PA where I grew up --- they taught me the Creighton Model, and I'm so grateful I learned it!

[Cherie]

[quote name='IgnatiusofLoyola' date='25 April 2010 - 06:55 PM' timestamp='1272236151' post='2099941']
Sorry, I can't help. I thought Creighton was a college. [img]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/public/style_emoticons/default/blush.gif[/img] Then, again, I have no reason to know what Creighton is.
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The Creighton Model Fertility Care System (CrMS) was developed at Creighton University, so you aren't far off.

For those interested, PLEASE visit: http://www.creightonmodel.com/ !!!

[tinytherese]

This may be a silly question to ask, but if you take anti-depressants would that affect your cycle? I'm taking cymbalta.

[Archaeology cat]

I use Billings, but I can say that it really does become second nature.

TT - I don't know off-hand. I'll see what I can find. I wouldn't think so, though, since I wouldn't think an antidepressant would affect cervical mucus.

[mommas_boy]

[quote name='tinytherese' date='26 April 2010 - 01:50 AM' timestamp='1272261004' post='2100216']
This may be a silly question to ask, but if you take anti-depressants would that affect your cycle? I'm taking cymbalta.
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Not sure.

This is unrelated, but looking at the data for prozac vs. progesterone support (what's used in NaPro), the Progesterone is much better at handling period-related depression (both PMS and PMDD). Now, I'm not saying that you have PMS, it's just that this is the data that I have to use. I'm making the assumption that the body is a complicated machine, and that if one treatment is so effective for one sickness, it's very likely to be effective for similar sicknesses.

[b]Here's data for PMS:[/b]

[img]http://www.fertilitycare.org/storage/premenstrual-syndrome/NPTfigure29-16.gif?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1246855482132[/img]

([url="http://www.fertilitycare.org/premenstrual-syndrome/"]Link[/url])

In the above graph, fluoxetine is Prozac. HCG is an additional hormone that is often used in conjunction with progesterone.
(( Conclusion from this graph: more women experienced relief from PMS-type symptoms using NaPro than from using Prozac. ))

[b]Here's some data on post-partum:[/b]

[img]http://www.fertilitycare.org/storage/postpartum-depression/NPTfigure30-03.gif?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1246857054020[/img]

(( Conclusion: The number of women experiencing each of the above symptoms significantly decreased when using NaPro. ))

[img]http://www.fertilitycare.org/storage/postpartum-depression/NPTfigure30-05.gif?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1246857425676[/img]

(( Conclusion: The average number of symptoms that each woman experienced while using NaPro also significantly improved. ))

You may need to zoom (Ctrl-+) in order to see what's written on the graph axes.

([url="http://www.fertilitycare.org/premenstrual-syndrome/"]Link[/url])

Again, you're not pregnant, so you can't possibly have post-partum, but you can see that NaPro seems to be having a positive effect on women's mental states.

So it is possible that, if someone is experiencing period-related depression, then NaPro TECHNOLOGY might be of some help to them.

EDIT: You may be able to find a NaPro TECHNOLOGY physician at this page: http://www.fertilitycare.org ... and then select "Find a medical consultant."

Edited April 26, 2010 by mommas_boy

[mommas_boy]

I have a question.

NaPro primarily uses progesterone to regulate a woman's hormone levels. But, isn't progesterone an active ingredient in one of the kinds of birth control? How would progesterone affect conception? How would progesterone affect gestation?

[mommas_boy]

[quote name='mcts' date='25 April 2010 - 06:04 PM' timestamp='1272233050' post='2099903']
Does anybody use it?


Hmm. Maybe this could be considered inappropriate for some people? Please remove it right away if it is. I just have to start charting for medical reasons and wondered what people thought of it.
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Not sure if you've got a doctor already, but here are a couple in your area:

Luis Barajas, M.D.
Family Medicine
Family Life Clinic
7781 E. Ridge Rd.
Hobart, IN 46342
Phone: 219-947-0797 Fax: 219-942-6243
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J.R. Hoffman , M.D.
Family Medicine/Obstetrics
Jasper Family Physicians
1950 St. Charles St.
Jasper, IN 47546
Phone: 812-482-9555 Fax: 812-482-9073
e-mail: rosenfp@insightbb.com
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Patrick M. Holly, M.D., CNFPMC
Family Medicine/NaProTechnology
Associated Family Medicine Consultants, PC
6404 Rothmer Rd.
Fort Wayne, IN 46835
Phone: 260-486-6197 Fax: 260-486-9862

EDIT: The one in Hobart, IN looks closest. Also, nothing in Michigan.

Edited April 26, 2010 by mommas_boy

[Cherie]

[quote name='mommas_boy' date='26 April 2010 - 03:31 AM' timestamp='1272267072' post='2100238']
I have a question.

NaPro primarily uses progesterone to regulate a woman's hormone levels. But, isn't progesterone an active ingredient in one of the kinds of birth control? How would progesterone affect conception? How would progesterone affect gestation?
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Progesterone is the natural hormone that is necessary for women to conceive and keep their child in the womb (among other things) - many women who have early miscarriages can attribute it to lack of progesterone in her body. When put on progesterone therapy, often she can prevent early miscarriage and go on to deliver a healthy, full-term baby.

Progestin is the synthetic hormone in many birth control pills. It is not progesterone, although the similarity in spelling is attributed to the fact that progestin has some progesterone-like characteristic (but also some very NON-progesterone-like characteristics!)

Edited April 26, 2010 by CherieMadame

[Brother Adam]

[quote name='mommas_boy' date='26 April 2010 - 04:33 AM' timestamp='1272267180' post='2100239']
Not sure if you've got a doctor already, but here are a couple in your area:

Also, nothing in Michigan.
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There are doctors you can see in MI, but you have to know where to look.

[mcts]

[quote name='mommas_boy' date='26 April 2010 - 03:33 AM' timestamp='1272267180' post='2100239']
Not sure if you've got a doctor already, but here are a couple in your area:

Luis Barajas, M.D.
Family Medicine
Family Life Clinic
7781 E. Ridge Rd.
Hobart, IN 46342
Phone: 219-947-0797 Fax: 219-942-6243
-----------------------------------------------------------------
J.R. Hoffman , M.D.
Family Medicine/Obstetrics
Jasper Family Physicians
1950 St. Charles St.
Jasper, IN 47546
Phone: 812-482-9555 Fax: 812-482-9073
e-mail: rosenfp@insightbb.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Patrick M. Holly, M.D., CNFPMC
Family Medicine/NaProTechnology
Associated Family Medicine Consultants, PC
6404 Rothmer Rd.
Fort Wayne, IN 46835
Phone: 260-486-6197 Fax: 260-486-9862

EDIT: The one in Hobart, IN looks closest. Also, nothing in Michigan.
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Thanks, but I'm actually seeing someone in Niles, MI, who is just down the road from my school. Literally.

[Ash Wednesday]

Happy pills never affected my cycle. My thyroid does, along with every other aspect of my health it seems.

Thinking of switching to Creighton.

[Cherie]

[quote name='Ash Wednesday' date='26 April 2010 - 11:46 AM' timestamp='1272296816' post='2100321']
Happy pills never affected my cycle. My thyroid does, along with every other aspect of my health it seems.

Thinking of switching to Creighton.
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I really believe you'll find the Creighton Model to be perfect for you!

[mommas_boy]

[quote name='mcts' date='26 April 2010 - 08:40 AM' timestamp='1272285613' post='2100260']
Thanks, but I'm actually seeing someone in Niles, MI, who is just down the road from my school. Literally.
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Awesome. Even better.