The Numbers Behind Pornography

[Didacus]

Over 14 billion dollars spent per year on something that gives no gain except poison the soul.

So very sad...

[Jesus_lol]

[quote name='King's Rook's Pawn' date='23 April 2010 - 10:10 PM' timestamp='1272085856' post='2099073']
"Ron Jeremy holds the record for Most Appearances in Adult Films."

Porn watchers prefer ugly people??
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he is supposed to be extremely well endowed, so thats probably why.

[Ed Normile]

LOL I seen this and thought about the title, the numbers on porn, and the first thing that popped into my head was the old 666 number. I place no power or belief in this number, but it always comes up in every cheap movie or almost any time someone talks about evil things. i was in the walmart when a ladies purchase came to $6.66 and she freaked, she said to the cashier give me a pack of gum and add it on that total.

ed

[Ed Normile]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' date='24 April 2010 - 11:45 AM' timestamp='1272127523' post='2099227']
he is supposed to be extremely well endowed, so thats probably why.
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So, is that a financial endowment?

ed

[Vincent Vega]

I want to know how GM sells porn.

[Jesus_lol]

[quote name='Ed Normile' date='24 April 2010 - 10:47 AM' timestamp='1272131248' post='2099254']
So, is that a financial endowment?

ed
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i guess it gets him a lot of lucrative business, so in a way... yes.

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='24 April 2010 - 10:56 AM' timestamp='1272121012' post='2099195']
I was trying to make sense of it too.

Utah is:
95% white.
60% Mormon.
42% of those are "active" Mormons.
Birthrate is 25% higher than national average.
Has the youngest population of any U.S. state.
One of the few states that has more males than females.
Lowest number of abortions per capita.

I was thinking that maybe having more males than females and having the youngest population of any state might account for it. The assumption being and young men are the most likely to be into internet porn.

The results of the study that is the basis of the Utah claim can be found here:

http://people.hbs.edu/bedelman/papers/redlightstates.pdf

Their conclusion seems to be that conservative values and traditional gender roles equals greater likelihood of porn subscriptions. The study itself seems somewhat charged and biased to me though.
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Another thought (and this is just merely a guess on my part) is that those who are apt to hold traditional sexual values may be tempted to live their sexual fantasies vicariously rather than literally.

[Jesus_lol]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' date='24 April 2010 - 12:53 PM' timestamp='1272138826' post='2099325']
Another thought (and this is just merely a guess on my part) is that those who are apt to hold traditional sexual values may be tempted to live their sexual fantasies vicariously rather than literally.
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considering the amount of abuse rampant in mormon communities, it is lived out literally as well.


reminds me of some of the politicians, known for antigay policies, being busted for gay sex scandals recently. the man loudly proclaiming his innocence would be the first i'd suspect...

[Ed Normile]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' date='24 April 2010 - 03:35 PM' timestamp='1272141311' post='2099348']
considering the amount of abuse rampant in mormon communities, it is lived out literally as well.


reminds me of some of the politicians, known for antigay policies, being busted for gay sex scandals recently. the man loudly proclaiming his innocence would be the first i'd suspect...
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Surely, thou dost protest too much....

ed

[XIX]

Aside from sexual morality, the porn industry is a horrendous, ongoing violation of human rights. Men and women are made to perform grotesquely violent acts that are completely unrealistic in a real world situation.

Women end up in porn because they are looking for a window into a glamorous world. They end up trapped in a cycle of emotional and physical pain that they attempt to medicate with all sorts of drugs. They then continue making "movies" to pay for their addictions. Finally, they often tragically and falsely believe there is no hope for them. Many porn stars have nobody to tell them that [i]it doesn't have to be this way.[/i] Anecdotally, Patrice Roldan (aka "Nadia Styles") contracted an STD during her first film. Throughout her career, she would contract other STDs, have an abortion, and become addicted to the following: painkillers, ecstacy, cocaine, muscle relaxants, vicodin, and alcohol. She has been severely abused.

Men suffer too. They are asked to suspend any sense of conscience, as they must push any thoughts of their own mothers, sisters, girlfriends, etc out of their minds. This numbing process is the only way their consciences will allow them to treat these women like beaten-up, worthless toys.

Most consumers of porn are 12-17 year old males, meaning that their first encounters with many sexual acts are completely unrealistic in every possible way. Since no male has the anatomy of a "porn star," many teens are left to feel insecure about themselves. They pass this insecurity on to their girlfriends, wives, and other sexual partners who feel pressured to live up to these pornographic films. A lot of women don't think they can every compete with "Nadia Styles." This of course is total nonsense. The reality is that porn can never compete with any sort of true intimacy, whether it be a loving romantic intimacy, friendship, or intimacy with our Lord.

There's no end to the level of damage caused by the pornography industry. I can't even begin to scratch the surface on the tip of that iceberg. It's a human tragedy.

What is even sadder is that some secular folk may read this entire post and laugh at it.

[King's Rook's Pawn]

[quote name='XIX' date='24 April 2010 - 06:19 PM' timestamp='1272147584' post='2099387']
Women end up in porn because they are looking for a window into a glamorous world. They end up trapped in a cycle of emotional and physical pain that they attempt to medicate with all sorts of drugs. They then continue making "movies" to pay for their addictions. Finally, they often tragically and falsely believe there is no hope for them. Many porn stars have nobody to tell them that [i]it doesn't have to be this way.[/i] Anecdotally, Patrice Roldan (aka "Nadia Styles") contracted an STD during her first film. Throughout her career, she would contract other STDs, have an abortion, and become addicted to the following: painkillers, ecstacy, cocaine, muscle relaxants, vicodin, and alcohol. She has been severely abused.

Men suffer too. They are asked to suspend any sense of conscience, as they must push any thoughts of their own mothers, sisters, girlfriends, etc out of their minds. This numbing process is the only way their consciences will allow them to treat these women like beaten-up, worthless toys.
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I think you have to be careful with focusing on arguments like this because I think it makes it seem like that the reason the Church condemns pornography is because of drug abuse or STDs in the industry or because erotic actors feel unfulfilled or some other factor. In reality, it wouldn't matter even if all porn actors were happy, healthy, and fulfilled in their jobs, because the Church opposes all non-procreative sexual activity and all sexual activity outside monogamous wedlock between a man and a woman. Those are far more rigorous standards than just opposing drug-fueled promiscuity. It's like the argument that widespread condom-use doesn't prevent the spread of AIDS in Africa. I don't really like that argument because the truth is that even [i]if[/i] widespread condom-use prevented the spread of AIDS in Africa, the Church would condemn it anyway. Even though it sometimes sounds more extreme, I think we go straight to the root of the issue: [i]all[/i] sexual acts are forbidden unless within monogamous, opposite-sex wedlock and open to procreation, regardless of any other factor.


I don't mean to come across as picky or critical in regards to your post. It's just a tactical issue I've considered before.

Edited April 24, 2010 by King's Rook's Pawn

[rizz_loves_jesus]

[quote name='XIX' date='24 April 2010 - 06:19 PM' timestamp='1272147584' post='2099387']
Aside from sexual morality, the porn industry is a horrendous, ongoing violation of human rights. Men and women are made to perform grotesquely violent acts that are completely unrealistic in a real world situation.

Women end up in porn because they are looking for a window into a glamorous world. They end up trapped in a cycle of emotional and physical pain that they attempt to medicate with all sorts of drugs. They then continue making "movies" to pay for their addictions. Finally, they often tragically and falsely believe there is no hope for them. Many porn stars have nobody to tell them that [i]it doesn't have to be this way.[/i] Anecdotally, Patrice Roldan (aka "Nadia Styles") contracted an STD during her first film. Throughout her career, she would contract other STDs, have an abortion, and become addicted to the following: painkillers, ecstacy, cocaine, muscle relaxants, vicodin, and alcohol. She has been severely abused.

Men suffer too. They are asked to suspend any sense of conscience, as they must push any thoughts of their own mothers, sisters, girlfriends, etc out of their minds. This numbing process is the only way their consciences will allow them to treat these women like beaten-up, worthless toys.

Most consumers of porn are 12-17 year old males, meaning that their first encounters with many sexual acts are completely unrealistic in every possible way. Since no male has the anatomy of a "porn star," many teens are left to feel insecure about themselves. They pass this insecurity on to their girlfriends, wives, and other sexual partners who feel pressured to live up to these pornographic films. A lot of women don't think they can every compete with "Nadia Styles." This of course is total nonsense. The reality is that porn can never compete with any sort of true intimacy, whether it be a loving romantic intimacy, friendship, or intimacy with our Lord.

There's no end to the level of damage caused by the pornography industry. I can't even begin to scratch the surface on the tip of that iceberg. It's a human tragedy.

What is even sadder is that some secular folk may read this entire post and laugh at it.
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[jeffpugh]

[quote name='rizz_loves_jesus' date='24 April 2010 - 07:30 PM' timestamp='1272151819' post='2099408']
Action failed: You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day
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Poor Rizzy. Might have to get you a flag in order to allot you more votes

[Didacus]

[quote name='Sacred Music Man' date='24 April 2010 - 08:12 PM' timestamp='1272154321' post='2099430']
Poor Rizzy. Might have to get you a flag in order to allot you more votes
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You may be out of votes... But I wasn't!

[jeffpugh]

[quote name='Didacus' date='24 April 2010 - 08:22 PM' timestamp='1272154972' post='2099440']
You may be out of votes... But I wasn't!

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Win. High five.